New Clue in Amelia Earhart Story

Started by sardak, April 01, 2007, 02:22:46 AM

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sardak

A previously unknown diary of a reporter sent to cover Earhart's and Noonan's landing at Howland Island was bought off eBay last fall by a member of TIGHAR (The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery).  The reporter, James Carey, was a student at the University of Hawaii hired by AP.  The diary doesn't give any earth shaking news, just more insight into the disappearance.

An article about the diary has been released by the Associated Press.  One link to the article can be found on TIGHAR's website:

http://www.tighar.org

Lot's of interesting items on the website.

Mike


JohnKachenmeister

It has been a while, but I thought there was substantial evidence that Earhart and Noonan were killed by the Japanese?
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sardak

Reading today's newspaper article is the probably the most I've known about the Earhart disappearance.  Doing some simple research on the Internet, theories are:

Earhart and Noonan were abducted by aliens.

Earhart and Noonan were captured by the Japanese.

Earhart returned to the US and lived under an assumed name.

The pair crashed north- northwest of Howland Island, their destination. The plane sunk into the Pacific, some 17,000 feet deep in the area.  Hypothesis of Elgen Long, published in a book in 1999.

The pair made a forced landing on Gardner (now Nikumaroro) Island southeast of Howland Island, and died there, having been missed by searchers.  This is TIGHARs hypothesis.

There isn't substantial evidence supporting any of the theories.  TIGHAR has done the most research, and so gets the most media coverage.  Proponents of each theory do their best to discredit the others.

One can choose the theory of his/her liking.

Mike

Major Lord

Hey, what about the one that Amelia was a Nazi spy? (That was my personal favorite) My only gripe with Amelia is that like all the "other" female CAP AE award namesakes, she was a somewhat lackluster success story. We really could not find  better role models for female cadets than MF and AE?

Capt. Lord
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

JohnKachenmeister

Right.

I personally favor Pancho Barnes.
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Major Lord

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on April 02, 2007, 04:24:14 PM
Right.

I personally favor Pancho Barnes.

Hooah! Any Females out there in AE that are not famous for being: lost, immolated, or just existing? How about wonder-woman! We could have an AE award because she had the first stealth aircraft....

Capt. Lord
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

RogueLeader

I'm surprised that there aren't more oceanographic missions to look for her plane.  I know its a huge area, but imagine the feelings of finding it.
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thefischNX01

Quote from: sardak on April 02, 2007, 03:17:14 AM

Earhart and Noonan were abducted by aliens.

What?  You don't think so? ;)
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BillB

Aliens? I don't think so. In reality, ir was a black van from Maxwell. (Maxwell Army Airfield at the time)
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JohnKachenmeister

I know CAP didn't exist then.  Did Maxwell Field even exist?
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JohnKachenmeister

It did.  The airfield was purchased by the government in 1918 and named for a down-home Alabama boy killed while flying over France in World War the First.
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Fifinella

Quote from: CaptLord on April 02, 2007, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on April 02, 2007, 04:24:14 PM
Right.

I personally favor Pancho Barnes.

Hooah! Any Females out there in AE that are not famous for being: lost, immolated, or just existing? How about wonder-woman! We could have an AE award because she had the first stealth aircraft....

Capt. Lord
What about Jackie Cochran or Sally Ride?
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Major Lord

Quote from: Fifinella on April 03, 2007, 04:27:23 PM
Quote from: CaptLord on April 02, 2007, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on April 02, 2007, 04:24:14 PM
Right.

I personally favor Pancho Barnes.

Hooah! Any Females out there in AE that are not famous for being: lost, immolated, or just existing? How about wonder-woman! We could have an AE award because she had the first stealth aircraft....

Capt. Lord
What about Jackie Cochran or Sally Ride?


Okay, I would vote for Jackie. Sallie was an "Equal Opportunity" astronaut to some degree, since we needed a non-dead woman as an astronaut.
She was apparently a pretty fair tennis player.

Capt. Lord
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

TankerT

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on April 02, 2007, 04:24:14 PM
Right.

I personally favor Pancho Barnes.

Um.  She was just a little crude for a role model doncha think?

Don't get me wrong.  Great aviator...

/Insert Snappy Comment Here

Major Lord

Quote from: TankerT on April 03, 2007, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on April 02, 2007, 04:24:14 PM
Right.

I personally favor Pancho Barnes.

Um.  She was just a little crude for a role model doncha think?

Don't get me wrong.  Great aviator...

She may not have been the paragon of virtue, chastity and abstinence that the first astronauts were....... wait a minute, strike that...
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

JohnKachenmeister

Which astronauts were you about to refer to... the ones who drank at Pancho's bar, featured in "The Right Stuff," or the ones who drive for 10 hours in a diaper to confront their love rival, featured in the new Lifetime drama series:  "NASA, The Untold Story?""
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smj58501

Quote from: TankerT on April 03, 2007, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on April 02, 2007, 04:24:14 PM
Right.

I personally favor Pancho Barnes.

Um.  She was just a little crude for a role model doncha think?

Don't get me wrong.  Great aviator...

That makes her an even better choise. I would not say crude... independent, headstong, and to the point maybe. I only wish i could have visited the "Happy Bottom Riding Club" in its heyday
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SarDragon

Speaking of our dear departed Florence, here's a web site all about her.
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Major Lord

Quote from: SarDragon on April 04, 2007, 06:40:18 AM
Speaking of our dear departed Florence, here's a web site all about her.

Great Website and good info!  I did not know she founded a Union though, might have to verify she was not a Russkiy sympathiser before canonizing her with an AE award...

Capt. Lord

(Florence is Pancho LT...Kids these days!)
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

JohnKachenmeister

Yeah... CAP NEEDS an award named after her!

Always ready for adventure, never one to be pushed around, astute businesswoman, artistic and creative, everything that we want our cadets to be.

And, if one of our cadets later owns a great bar... cool!
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RogueLeader

Quote from: CaptLord on April 04, 2007, 07:26:18 PM

(Florence is Pancho LT...Kids these days!)
What can I say. . . . I'm young. 8)
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SarDragon

Quote from: RogueLeader on April 04, 2007, 07:10:11 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 04, 2007, 06:40:18 AM
Speaking of our dear departed Florence, here's a web site all about her.
Of who?

Had you gone to the provided link, you would have seen that her birth name was Florence. I do provide links in hopes that folks will click them and learn something. Obscure references are provided as further inducement to click and learn.
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sardak

Quote from: SarDragon on April 04, 2007, 11:30:43 PM
Quote from: RogueLeader on April 04, 2007, 07:10:11 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 04, 2007, 06:40:18 AM
Speaking of our dear departed Florence, here's a web site all about her.
Of who?

Had you gone to the provided link, you would have seen that her birth name was Florence. I do provide links in hopes that folks will click them and learn something. Obscure references are provided as further inducement to click and learn.

You beat me to pointing that out, thank you.  I find that it is surprisingly common on this board that people choose not to follow links.  I provide them also, in hopes that the reader takes the couple of seconds to click on them, and possibly expand their knowledge of the topic, particularly in the AE forum.   But alas, it is not so.  Same with people who reply without reading the entire thread (granted, 17 pages can be difficult at times), but I read many replies where the author didn't even bother to read a couple of posts back.

Mike

RogueLeader

Quote from: sardak on April 05, 2007, 05:35:49 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 04, 2007, 11:30:43 PM
Quote from: RogueLeader on April 04, 2007, 07:10:11 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 04, 2007, 06:40:18 AM
Speaking of our dear departed Florence, here's a web site all about her.
Of who?

Had you gone to the provided link, you would have seen that her birth name was Florence. I do provide links in hopes that folks will click them and learn something. Obscure references are provided as further inducement to click and learn.

You beat me to pointing that out, thank you.  I find that it is surprisingly common on this board that people choose not to follow links.  I provide them also, in hopes that the reader takes the couple of seconds to click on them, and possibly expand their knowledge of the topic, particularly in the AE forum.   But alas, it is not so.  Same with people who reply without reading the entire thread (granted, 17 pages can be difficult at times), but I read many replies where the author didn't even bother to read a couple of posts back.

Mike
I read the link after I posted, I was still tired after the Missing person search in Ames.  All I can say is "oops"
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Major Lord

LT, No one should slight you for not reading all the links. We know that half of them will be for porno, home mortgages, or Amway anyway. The Pancho Barnes web site did have good info, and I can vouch for it.  Now, if you will send me your credit card number, I can get you enrolled in a money making opportunity today....

Capt. (soon to be Major) Lord
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

PhotogPilot

Quote from: thefischNX01 on April 03, 2007, 12:04:51 PM
Quote from: sardak on April 02, 2007, 03:17:14 AM

Earhart and Noonan were abducted by aliens.

What?  You don't think so? ;)

Shore they were, I seen it on the teluvisun. They was took to the delta quadrant, along with a farmer dude, a Japanese army guy, and Indian woman, and some other folk. (They left the farmer's pickup floating in space though.)  ;D :o ::)

RogueLeader

Quote from: CaptLord on April 05, 2007, 09:46:23 PM
LT, No one should slight you for not reading all the links. We know that half of them will be for porno, home mortgages, or Amway anyway. The Pancho Barnes web site did have good info, and I can vouch for it.  Now, if you will send me your credit card number, I can get you enrolled in a money making opportunity today....

Capt. (soon to be Major) Lord
Right, I have it just behind my ethics statement.
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