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Started by Becks, November 29, 2006, 05:17:43 AM

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Eclipse

If they can C&D a place making nametapes, they'll C&D them too. :-[

"That Others May Zoom"

Pylon

Quote from: O-Rex on December 04, 2006, 03:50:18 AM
Getting back to the subject-at-hand, [[company name redacted]] is interested in poducing the slides (a few CAP Members have already approached them)  They already make Army Gore-Tex Rank slides.  They asked if anyone had any idea of the measurements. 

I just figured standard embroidered rank and CAP cutouts, with 1/2 inch spacing between the rank and the cutouts, no??

I don't imagine that there is anything prorietary on the CAP Rank Slides (?)

Admin edit: Company name removed for their protection; sorry. They are one of the few that NHQ has not yet served with a C&D letter. PM author of post for name. --MK

I approached them a while back about doing it as well... even sent them a photoshopped mock-up I made of a CAP grade slide for the Goretex.  They said they can do it, but then never really got back to me.

I would think the measurements would be the same since it has to fit on the standard Goretex tab.  Plus, CAP doesn't specify measurements of other items, like shouldermarks.  If you can get them to produce, I'll buy a handful and I know others who would be interested, too.

But P.S.: I removed the company's name from your post - sorry.  I rarely do anything like that, but this is one of the few companies that NHQ's lawyers have not yet shut down.  They are high quality, produce all their products here in the U.S., and kick both Vanguard and Hock's prices and shipping fees out of the water.  And they're accurate and fast.  Whether people believe it or not, people from National do browse these and other forums -- I'd hate to  have them served a C&D letter for their current line of nametapes because of our discussion here. 
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

afgeo4

If this company's name begins with 1800 then they're already shut down.
GEORGE LURYE

Pylon

Quote from: afgeo4 on December 04, 2006, 07:20:11 AM
If this company's name begins with 1800 then they're already shut down.

It doesn't.
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

O-Rex

Pylon: about removing the info from the post, no problem: should have thought it through :-\

1-800 nametapes C&D order came about a few years back, even before CAPMART: they offered some high-quality CAP merchandise, including some great ballcaps and a few gee-gaws that the (then) Bookstore hadn't thought of.  They still offer white-on-ultramarine-blue nametapes, they just don't advertise them as 'Civil Air Patrol nametapes.'  Nobody has exclusive rights to a color. . .

I was a patron of the company in question in my Army days 20 years ago.  back then, the did all kinds of alterations and tailoring.  Now they do only embroidery work. 

There are some companies out there that do some really great flightsuit nametage, but apparently they have to go "underground" too.


Hawk200

Quote from: dcpacemaker on November 29, 2006, 05:39:29 PM
There's one guy that is the all-knowing supply guru for CAP items at Vanguard.  You need to ask to talk to him.  If I knew his name, I'd PM it to you.  The NCUC had been in stock for a month and the workers at vanguard (except for this one guy) didn't know they had it.

Does anyone know this guys name? May make an order in a few days, and don't feel like talking to the brainless ones. PM would be appreciated if you don't want to post in the clear.

O-Rex

They had a guy from Vangard at my Wingconf, can't remember his name for the life of me, but he was really up on what was going on: wasn't just a warm body . . .

as for they "mystery supplier" of Gore-tex rank, I gave him the "reader's digest of our discussions.  this was his reply:

There are no doubt certifications that need to be looked into before I would ever get into any mass production, this is the same with all the services, we'll get to that later. 

    Thanks for the heads up,

Hawk200

Quote from: Hawk200 on November 30, 2006, 07:47:14 PM
Quote from: MIKE on November 30, 2006, 07:00:06 PM
Quote from: O-Rex on November 30, 2006, 05:15:33 PM
b/t/w, with the adoption of all the new pixelated uniforms for each of the services, do any of them use the M-65 field jacket anymore?

I believe most are switching to Gore-tex or a new non-Gore-tex coat in the appropriate pattern.  I know the Army has one in development that is similar in construction to the ACUs themselves... Which will replace the M-65.

There was an article in the Army Times about the new cold weather gear. The Army is going to field a seven layer system for cold/wet weather wear. Some pretty nice stuff actually with underlayers, soft and hard shell outers, and one layer designed only for the coldest of environments. Probably be a few years before the Air Force adopts anything similar. The Army may have an oddball camo, but some of the accessories are nice.

There is some info here: http://www.natick.army.mil/about/pao/2004/04-17.htm

Apparently Polartec is producing a few of the items, info from them: http://www.polartec.com/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/1285

All in all, seems to be pretty good stuff.

Going back to this older post, I found some other info if anyone is really curious about what the Army is getting. This is a pretty good link here: https://www.peosoldier.army.mil/pmequipment/ciemultimedia.asp

Scroll down about a third of the page, and it shows the various layers of the Army's new cold weather gear.

afgeo4

The USAF will be using the Marine Corps cold weather clothing done in ABU pattern.
GEORGE LURYE

Hawk200

Quote from: afgeo4 on December 14, 2006, 06:14:28 PM
The USAF will be using the Marine Corps cold weather clothing done in ABU pattern.

I haven't seen that one yet. Got any links? I'm a bit of a gear hound at times. Not that I would ever be able to afford all the nice cool stuff that I would like to have...

mikeylikey

The new ACU cold weather issue is so much better than the Marines version.  The Marine version had huge fielding problems due to quality and fit, and there are so many complaints about it. 
What's up monkeys?



MIKE

The calf pockets on the trousers seem next to useless.  I like them on the sleeves like the APEC. Just looks cool... Have to do something about the huge sleeve stripes then though.

The APEC is similar to the Gen. II ECWCS parka.  The offset rank tab makes it look a lot like the coat the Navy was developing for TFU.

Mike Johnston

lordmonar

Quote from: MIKE on December 20, 2006, 05:33:12 PM
The calf pockets on the trousers seem next to useless. 

I don't know....I can think of several good applications for this pocket.  While sitting in a vehicle in full battle rattle....A calf pocket is just about the only thing you can reach.  I know when I fly I use mainly the calf pockets in my flight suit as being the most convenient.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

MIKE

Maybe if they were a little bigger?
Mike Johnston

Hawk200

Quote from: MIKE on December 20, 2006, 05:33:12 PM
The calf pockets on the trousers seem next to useless.  I like them on the sleeves like the APEC. Just looks cool... Have to do something about the huge sleeve stripes then though.

The APEC is similar to the Gen. II ECWCS parka.  The offset rank tab makes it look a lot like the coat the Navy was developing for TFU.

I've found it's a great place to put cut off tie wraps when sitting on top of a Blackhawk. Lot easier to just reach to your calf than having to stand up and go into the thigh pocket. And it actually works pretty well for a cell phone too.

...Or a can of adult candy.

lordmonar

Quote from: MIKE on December 20, 2006, 05:53:33 PM
Maybe if they were a little bigger?

Haven't seen them yet...so I can't comment.  But heck....we don't use all of our pockets as it is!  And some people out there keep telling the cadets you can't put anything in your pockets!

I had a C/SSgt bring me to task during a SAREX as I was loading up my BDUs with my gear...he honest thought that pockets were just for looks and we were forbidden to put anything in there!

I told him....just nothing bulky and once you get into the feild...what ever you can fit into it!
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

MIKE

Quote from: lordmonar on December 21, 2006, 09:50:31 AM
But heck....we don't use all of our pockets as it is!  And some people out there keep telling the cadets you can't put anything in your pockets!

I know.  ::)  They wouldn't make all kinds of special pockets if you weren't supposed to use 'em.
Mike Johnston

DNall

Now do keep the field & garrison concepts seperate here.  ;)