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Title: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: flyguy06 on December 31, 2005, 05:38:48 PM
Does Civil Air Patrol have any multi engine aircraft. I seem to remember back in 1997 when I was stationed in HAwaii, I saw a CAP twin. It was a high wing fixed gear piston. It had a funny name to it that I cant remember. But other than that, I cannot recall any other twins.
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: Pylon on December 31, 2005, 07:46:27 PM
Maj Gen Antonio Pineda, National Commander, announced at the NER Conference in November that Civil Air Patrol is currently obtaining a multi-engine aircraft.  It would become the only one currently in the fleet, according to him, meaning we haven't had any (at least for a while) up until now.

Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: BillB on December 31, 2005, 09:44:49 PM
At one time CAP had a few C-45's, twin Beech aircraft. I never saw one, but heard there were several.
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: Cam89 on January 01, 2006, 06:28:35 PM
How many are still around? I would loveto have one.
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: Pylon on January 01, 2006, 11:58:47 PM
Quote from: Cam89 on January 01, 2006, 06:28:35 PM
How many are still around? I would loveto have one.

Uh... how many what are still around where?   ???
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: fyrfitrmedic on January 02, 2006, 09:38:37 PM
 There used to be an Aztec based at PNE years ago...
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: Cam89 on January 03, 2006, 12:02:09 AM
How many C-45's are there? How much are they? I would love to have one.
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: BillB on January 03, 2006, 03:16:46 AM
All of the CAP C-45's would have gone out of CAP inventory, probably around 1965. The twin Beech lists in Trade-a-Plane, last time I looked they were about $225,000.
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: NIN on January 04, 2006, 03:21:20 PM
Partenavia P68 Observer.

I think (but don't quote me on that) that its also the kind of airplane that CAP is considering for the twin.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/148235/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/266003/L/ (with the glass "observer" nose)

Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: MIKE on January 04, 2006, 03:40:35 PM
Quote from: NIN on January 04, 2006, 03:21:20 PM
Partenavia P68 Observer.

I think (but don't quote me on that) that its also the kind of airplane that CAP is considering for the twin.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/148235/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/266003/L/ (with the glass "observer" nose)

But the question remains... Is it jumpable?  ;)

Doesn't look like it from the pics.
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: Cam89 on January 05, 2006, 02:21:42 AM
If you could. Please find out for me were I can buy one.Thank you
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: MIKE on January 05, 2006, 03:34:45 AM
Quote from: Cam89 on January 05, 2006, 02:21:42 AM
If you could. Please find out for me were I can buy one.Thank you

Somebody have a good holiday?  :o

http://www.trade-a-plane.com/index.shtml

Would make a good lawn ornament though.  :D
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: SarDragon on January 05, 2006, 06:10:08 AM
Quote from: BillB on January 03, 2006, 03:16:46 AM
All of the CAP C-45's would have gone out of CAP inventory, probably around 1965. The twin Beech lists in Trade-a-Plane, last time I looked they were about $225,000.
This one? (http://www.trade-a-plane.com/unprotected/specs/35202.html)

Dis de one I want! (http://www.trade-a-plane.com/unprotected/specs/37983.html)
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: flyguy06 on January 05, 2006, 09:14:22 AM
The Partenavia. Thats the plane I was talking about that I saw the Hawaii WIng have. It must be very popular inthat part of the country.

ON another note, can somebady please tell me how to post a quote?
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: Pylon on January 05, 2006, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: flyguy06 on January 05, 2006, 09:14:22 AM
ON another note, can somebady please tell me how to post a quote?
Done.  Check your Personal Messages.   :)
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: NIN on January 28, 2006, 03:29:06 AM
Quote from: MIKE on January 04, 2006, 03:40:35 PM
But the question remains... Is it jumpable?  ;)

Doesn't look like it from the pics.

Me thinks not. :)

That door is awfully close to the engine.  And I'll bet that Partenavia frowns on flight with the door removed.

You'd be surprised what aircraft tend to BE jumpable, however.  I've gotten out of some fairly weird aircraft in my time (the C-152 Aerobat comes to mind directly.. That was a TIGHT jumpship.  The Maule ranks a close second.  That was a CAP demo jump, too)

And I will NOT ever again get into a Twin Beech. Ever.



Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: SKYKING607 on February 27, 2006, 10:29:17 PM
Used to be a Cessna 310 cruising around CAWG some years ago.
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: gatopgun on March 02, 2006, 09:43:22 PM
Georgia had a Doctor donate a C-337 to the Wing this past June. National told us we had to sell it . We couldn't fly it in any official capacity at all.  We do however pay pilots to fly there own personal A/C ( some C-337's) to support SEADS missions at a rate I think of 120.00 Hr. DRY. Didn't make since to me at all. They said it was an Insurance thing But the private A/C owners are covered while they fly there own 337's for CAP.  It was a graeat lookiing A/C had High time engines but if Nat. had payed the wing what they were paying the private owners we could have covered the costs and cut out the private A/C guy's .

Whoops, follow the money and you will most likely find the answers.
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: NIN on March 05, 2006, 01:27:44 PM
<tongue firmly planted in cheek>

Perfect SAR platform: High observation factor, multi-engined...

(http://www.cadetstuff.org/images/Coast3.jpg)
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: Chris Jacobs on March 05, 2006, 06:27:08 PM
I love it.
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: BillB on March 05, 2006, 06:30:56 PM
Every pilot would be required to provide their own toothbrush. To clean off the bugs if the pilot smiles while in flight. Another expense for CAP members.
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: smj58501 on March 07, 2006, 01:33:12 AM
Air conditioning come standard with this model, too. ND Wing definitely can use one
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: Viper on March 07, 2006, 01:59:06 AM
How do you search air craft on that site?
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: Pylon on March 07, 2006, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Viper on March 07, 2006, 01:59:06 AM
How do you search air craft on that site?

You're going to want to be a bit more specific in the future, or at least quote the post to which you're referring.  There were two different websites mentioned in this thread:  Airliners and Trade-a-Plane.

Airliner's can be search by clicking on the "Search" link on most any page.  That takes you here:  http://www.airliners.net/sitewide/

Trade-a-Plane has a prominent search box at the top of each page.  You can't miss it. ;)
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: SKYKING607 on March 07, 2006, 05:53:07 PM
Flight helmet, 5-pt harness, front and side airbags needed.

I love it!
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: SKYKING607 on March 07, 2006, 05:54:31 PM
Navy is retiring the S-3 and P-3 aircraft.   Any screeners out there?

(yeah right)
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: Viper on March 07, 2006, 06:37:36 PM
Quote from: Pylon on March 07, 2006, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Viper on March 07, 2006, 01:59:06 AM
How do you search air craft on that site?

You're going to want to be a bit more specific in the future, or at least quote the post to which you're referring.  There were two different websites mentioned in this thread:  Airliners and Trade-a-Plane.

Airliner's can be search by clicking on the "Search" link on most any page.  That takes you here:  http://www.airliners.net/sitewide/

Trade-a-Plane has a prominent search box at the top of each page.  You can't miss it. ;)

I was talking aboutTrade-a-Plane.  I was searching the wrong thing, lol.  Should have searched fact sheets the first time.  It was telling me I had to be a subscriber.
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: Viper on March 08, 2006, 02:10:41 AM
But a member-owned twin engine can be used, right?
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: NIN on March 08, 2006, 03:26:37 AM
Quote from: Viper on March 08, 2006, 02:10:41 AM
But a member-owned twin engine can be used, right?

Sure, except you'll probably take a bath on the USAF reimbursement rate...

Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: Viper on March 08, 2006, 03:35:35 PM
Quote from: NIN on March 08, 2006, 03:26:37 AM
Quote from: Viper on March 08, 2006, 02:10:41 AM
But a member-owned twin engine can be used, right?

Sure, except you'll probably take a bath on the USAF reimbursement rate...



Is the reimbursement rate high or low?  Sorry, I'm just slow this morning--no sleep last night., lol.
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: SER Safety on April 05, 2006, 07:45:01 PM
Lt. Col Ninness

great to see you R still a Fast Burner

Great Idea for a muti engine platform

another NERSC Graduate(Honors)
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: NIN on April 06, 2006, 06:51:50 PM
Quote from: SER Safety on April 05, 2006, 07:45:01 PM
Lt. Col Ninness

great to see you R still a Fast Burner

Great Idea for a muti engine platform

another NERSC Graduate(Honors)


Ernie, you old reprobate you!  How's my favorite Fast Burner Mr. Vice? :)

Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: NIN on May 11, 2006, 12:43:10 AM
BTW, just incase you get crazy ideas about the P-68C Partenavia:

http://www.break.com/index/wingless1.html

This would probably happen in any plane, though. I think this guy was exceeding Vmo when he executed a pretty serious pullup.  Not too many planes out there will take that kind of abuse w/o leaving you hanging...
Title: Re: CAP Multi engine aircraft
Post by: flyguy06 on October 21, 2006, 04:05:55 PM
I think it was the Partenavia that CAP had ih Hawaii Wing