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Operations => Safety => Topic started by: RiverAux on May 11, 2008, 09:29:48 PM

Title: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: RiverAux on May 11, 2008, 09:29:48 PM
Okay, here are some safety gear requirements that have been mentioned on CAPTalk at various times that appear to be unique to their areas:
Pacific Region -- aircrews have to wear NOMEX
PA Wing -- ground teams have to wear hard hats and goggles?

Any other examples of safety gear requirements that are required either at the region or wing level that haven't been adopted nationally (please provide a link to the approved supplement documenting that requirement if it is available)? 
Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: notaNCO forever on May 11, 2008, 09:32:33 PM
 None that I know.
Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: isuhawkeye on May 11, 2008, 10:31:22 PM
Iowa wing has issued hard hats to members who participate in the ES academy. 

I dont think they are currently doing it????
Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: SAR-EMT1 on May 12, 2008, 07:23:12 AM
I've heard some wings arm the aircrews with wet wipes, used clean their hands before going to lunch. 

>:D

Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: CadetProgramGuy on May 12, 2008, 09:47:13 AM
However if CAP wants to become NIMS compliant, then someone has to decipher what:

"Appropriate level of PPE for working environment" Means
Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: notaNCO forever on May 12, 2008, 08:36:52 PM
Quote from: CadetProgramGuy on May 12, 2008, 09:47:13 AM
However if CAP wants to become NIMS compliant, then someone has to decipher what:

"Appropriate level of PPE for working environment" Means

Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: O-Rex on May 13, 2008, 12:01:57 PM
Quote from: SAR-EMT1 on May 12, 2008, 07:23:12 AM
I've heard some wings arm the aircrews with wet wipes, used clean their hands before going to lunch. 

>:D



Others require hip-boots to wade through the B.S.   ;D
Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: jimmydeanno on May 13, 2008, 12:37:38 PM
Others require a tire pressure regulator to ensure people's heads don't get too big.
Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: Duke Dillio on May 13, 2008, 03:32:48 PM
Hmmm, good question...

I think that Alaska wing requires firearms in their aircraft in case they go down in the wilderness.  Not too sure on that one though.  Check with someone from up there.  It might be an authorization and not a requirement...  I think they also require anti-exposure suits if they are flying in case of water bourne landing.

Some wings require an obscene amount or water be carried at all times due to high temps and what not.  Not sure if that is considered safety gear or not.

I was gonna insert a pun or two in here but I decided to stay away from those...
Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: DNall on May 13, 2008, 04:33:05 PM
Life jackets/exposure suits are per CAP reg for over water. There's another thread going on that topic.

I'm personally in favor of mandatory nomex for mission flight crews - meaning excludes o-flts, prof, check rides, etc. Also mandatory either BBDU o BDU for GT.

I believe those generally meet the intent of "Appropriate level of PPE for working environment," which is agency/IC defined & varies by AO/season/conditions.

;D :D  ;D Some entertaining stuff there folks. Thanks for the pick me up.
Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: flyerthom on May 22, 2008, 11:00:50 PM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on May 13, 2008, 12:37:38 PM
Others require a tire pressure regulator to ensure people's heads don't get too big.

Don't forget the spelunking light ...  >:D
Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: Hawk200 on May 23, 2008, 03:37:53 AM
Quote from: Sqn72DO on May 13, 2008, 03:32:48 PMI think that Alaska wing requires firearms in their aircraft in case they go down in the wilderness.  Not too sure on that one though.  Check with someone from up there.  It might be an authorization and not a requirement... 

Authorized, not required. At least it wasn't required when I was there.

Quote from: Sqn72DO on May 13, 2008, 03:32:48 PMI think they also require anti-exposure suits if they are flying in case of water bourne landing.

Never heard of this one.
Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: lordmonar on May 23, 2008, 06:32:53 AM
Quote from: RiverAux on May 11, 2008, 09:29:48 PM
Okay, here are some safety gear requirements that have been mentioned on CAPTalk at various times that appear to be unique to their areas:
Pacific Region -- aircrews have to wear NOMEX

Not any more...they just changed the 60-1 sup.  It is now encouraged but not required.
Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: Duke Dillio on May 23, 2008, 05:15:00 PM
Quote from: Hawk200 on May 23, 2008, 03:37:53 AM
Quote from: Sqn72DO on May 13, 2008, 03:32:48 PMI think that Alaska wing requires firearms in their aircraft in case they go down in the wilderness.  Not too sure on that one though.  Check with someone from up there.  It might be an authorization and not a requirement... 

Authorized, not required. At least it wasn't required when I was there.

Quote from: Sqn72DO on May 13, 2008, 03:32:48 PMI think they also require anti-exposure suits if they are flying in case of water bourne landing.

Never heard of this one.
OK, like I said, these are things that I heard.  It's good to debunk myths every once in a while.
Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: wacapgh on May 23, 2008, 08:31:36 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on May 23, 2008, 06:32:53 AM
Quote from: RiverAux on May 11, 2008, 09:29:48 PM
Okay, here are some safety gear requirements that have been mentioned on CAPTalk at various times that appear to be unique to their areas:
Pacific Region -- aircrews have to wear NOMEX

Not any more...they just changed the 60-1 sup.  It is now encouraged but not required.

According to the PCR web page, it is an ex-suppliment:

Pacific Region Supplement 1 (dated 23 APR 07) to CAPR 60-1, "CAP Flight Management", has been permanently rescinded by the Region Commander, effective 19 May 2008.
Title: Re: Unique safety gear requirements
Post by: flyerthom on July 07, 2008, 07:47:12 PM
Quote from: Sqn72DO on May 13, 2008, 03:32:48 PM
Hmmm, good question...

I think that Alaska wing requires firearms in their aircraft in case they go down in the wilderness.  Not too sure on that one though.  Check with someone from up there.  It might be an authorization and not a requirement...  I think they also require anti-exposure suits if they are flying in case of water bourne landing.

Some wings require an obscene amount or water be carried at all times due to high temps and what not.  Not sure if that is considered safety gear or not.

I was gonna insert a pun or two in here but I decided to stay away from those...


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