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Title: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: rframe on December 05, 2012, 10:36:18 PM
If I try to visit captalk.net from work I get:

An error has occurred!
Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!
Previously Banned User/Multiple Accounts
This ban is not set to expire.


I do know there are several CAP members who work here (larger organization).  Is it possible the system banned the IP address automatically because multiple members tried to login from one location?
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: MIKE on December 05, 2012, 10:51:48 PM
You must work with one of our problem children.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: rframe on December 06, 2012, 01:18:48 AM
Quote from: MIKE on December 05, 2012, 10:51:48 PM
You must work with one of our problem children.

Could be, we have about 9,000 employees at 85 locations...
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: Extremepredjudice on December 06, 2012, 02:39:02 AM
Quote from: rframe on December 06, 2012, 01:18:48 AM
Quote from: MIKE on December 05, 2012, 10:51:48 PM
You must work with one of our problem children.

Could be, we have about 9,000 employees at 85 locations...
You won't all have the same IP.
Title: Re: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: davidsinn on December 06, 2012, 03:06:46 AM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on December 06, 2012, 02:39:02 AM
Quote from: rframe on December 06, 2012, 01:18:48 AM
Quote from: MIKE on December 05, 2012, 10:51:48 PM
You must work with one of our problem children.

Could be, we have about 9,000 employees at 85 locations...
You won't all have the same IP.

Oh really? I used to work for a big company that had many offices and all of our IPs were routed through Texas regardless of our physical location.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: NIN on December 06, 2012, 03:09:48 AM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on December 06, 2012, 02:39:02 AM
You won't all have the same IP.

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/31371456.jpg)
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: rframe on December 06, 2012, 03:18:48 AM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on December 06, 2012, 02:39:02 AM
You won't all have the same IP.

Yeah, actually most will have the same public IP address.  I'd know, I'm the IT Security guy and I monitor most of that traffic.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: a2capt on December 06, 2012, 03:53:05 AM
D'oh!

(and don't say "but that would be routing traffic all over the place" .. ) 

...as in.. that's how the internet works :)

Many a large multi-location organization routes -everything- from within their scope via a single point. Kinda makes filtering, enforcing corporate policy, etc- pretty darn simple.

Right here. Right now. Done.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: whatevah on December 06, 2012, 03:57:00 AM
I'll look in to it tomorrow when I get free time on a real computer. Doing security stuff on a phone browser is a pain.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: rframe on December 06, 2012, 04:18:09 AM
cool, thanks.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: Extremepredjudice on December 06, 2012, 04:23:20 AM
Routing through one place would probably cause a lot of QoS issues. Cheaper, but not as good service.

One IP for each physical location is definitely workable (unless we are talking about a data center, of course).

Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: Eclipse on December 06, 2012, 04:34:35 AM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on December 06, 2012, 04:23:20 AM
Routing through one place would probably cause a lot of QoS issues. Cheaper, but not as good service.

Routing through one place is how most companies and consumers are connected to the Internet.
Title: Re: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: davidsinn on December 06, 2012, 12:34:12 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on December 06, 2012, 04:23:20 AM
Routing through one place would probably cause a lot of QoS issues. Cheaper, but not as good service.

One IP for each physical location is definitely workable (unless we are talking about a data center, of course).

Corporate IT is not about service...
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: Eclipse on December 06, 2012, 12:41:05 PM
All hail Mordac the Preventer!
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: Pylon on December 06, 2012, 03:19:51 PM
rframe, it would help if you could PM to Jerry, MIKE, or me the IP address you're coming from.  Our ban trigger logs have hundreds of blocks registering a day; I can't tell what IP is from your work.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: rframe on December 06, 2012, 03:36:55 PM
I've just PM'd you, thanks.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on December 06, 2012, 03:44:58 PM
This new information puts your other topic in the most excellent perspective.

Who at work have you heard expressing a poo poo opinion of CAP lately? :P
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: rframe on December 06, 2012, 04:09:50 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on December 06, 2012, 03:44:58 PM
This new information puts your other topic in the most excellent perspective.

Who at work have you heard expressing a poo poo opinion of CAP lately? :P

Hahaha.  Actually I've only talked to one and he's been very encouraging and helpful as I've looked into joining.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: a2capt on December 06, 2012, 05:39:34 PM
LOL... well, we know it's not RM then. ;)
From the outside, I can't help but feel sorry for those at Westover. Oh well.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: PHall on December 07, 2012, 05:37:06 AM
You must have a very tolerant employer. At AT&T use of a company computer for personal business is grounds for termination.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: rframe on December 07, 2012, 05:41:59 AM
Quote from: PHall on December 07, 2012, 05:37:06 AM
You must have a very tolerant employer. At AT&T use of a company computer for personal business is grounds for termination.

LOL, sounds like a great place to work.  I've worked in IT for over 15 years as the guy who enforces security policies, at everything from private start-ups, to IPO'd tech companies, to Fortune 1000 organizations and none have had a policy like that and if they did I dont think they'd retain much talent.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: Eclipse on December 07, 2012, 03:22:18 PM
I think a lot of companies have that as a written (or unwritten) policy, however the enforceability of from a practical sense becomes the
issue, not to mention that anyone with options to go elsewhere is going to tolerate that sort policy for very long.

There's also the fact that a lot of people carry a device in their pocket that has faster internet connectivity then the company does.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: Garibaldi on December 07, 2012, 11:04:57 PM
Quote from: rframe on December 07, 2012, 05:41:59 AM
Quote from: PHall on December 07, 2012, 05:37:06 AM
You must have a very tolerant employer. At AT&T use of a company computer for personal business is grounds for termination.

LOL, sounds like a great place to work.  I've worked in IT for over 15 years as the guy who enforces security policies, at everything from private start-ups, to IPO'd tech companies, to Fortune 1000 organizations and none have had a policy like that and if they did I dont think they'd retain much talent.

AT&T is a great place to work...but don't abuse their systems. There really is no warning for accessing sites they deem harmful or malicious. And woebetide the tech who tries too download Angry Birds on their company-issued iPhone...no mercy whatsoever.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: Eclipse on December 07, 2012, 11:08:16 PM
Quote from: Garibaldi on December 07, 2012, 11:04:57 PMAnd woebetide the tech who tries too download Angry Birds on their company-issued iPhone...no mercy whatsoever.

Mostly because two iphones on the AT&T network simultaneously will bring down the network.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: PHall on December 07, 2012, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: Garibaldi on December 07, 2012, 11:04:57 PM
Quote from: rframe on December 07, 2012, 05:41:59 AM
Quote from: PHall on December 07, 2012, 05:37:06 AM
You must have a very tolerant employer. At AT&T use of a company computer for personal business is grounds for termination.

LOL, sounds like a great place to work.  I've worked in IT for over 15 years as the guy who enforces security policies, at everything from private start-ups, to IPO'd tech companies, to Fortune 1000 organizations and none have had a policy like that and if they did I dont think they'd retain much talent.

AT&T is a great place to work...but don't abuse their systems. There really is no warning for accessing sites they deem harmful or malicious. And woebetide the tech who tries too download Angry Birds on their company-issued iPhone...no mercy whatsoever.

iPhone???    Us "real" techs don't have no stinkin' iPhones. We have Panasonic CF-30 Toughbooks, thermal printers and docking ports in our trucks. >:D
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: Eclipse on December 07, 2012, 11:56:28 PM
Quote from: PHall on December 07, 2012, 11:48:56 PMiPhone???    Us "real" techs don't have no stinkin' iPhones. We have Panasonic CF-30 Toughbooks, thermal printers and docking ports in our trucks. >:D

Not to mention sticky areas in various places in the shapes of the different phone companies AT&T has pretended to be since the divestiture.
We've got a few around here that still have a faint outline of a bell.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: Garibaldi on December 08, 2012, 02:13:46 AM
Quote from: PHall on December 07, 2012, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: Garibaldi on December 07, 2012, 11:04:57 PM
Quote from: rframe on December 07, 2012, 05:41:59 AM
Quote from: PHall on December 07, 2012, 05:37:06 AM
You must have a very tolerant employer. At AT&T use of a company computer for personal business is grounds for termination.

LOL, sounds like a great place to work.  I've worked in IT for over 15 years as the guy who enforces security policies, at everything from private start-ups, to IPO'd tech companies, to Fortune 1000 organizations and none have had a policy like that and if they did I dont think they'd retain much talent.

AT&T is a great place to work...but don't abuse their systems. There really is no warning for accessing sites they deem harmful or malicious. And woebetide the tech who tries too download Angry Birds on their company-issued iPhone...no mercy whatsoever.

iPhone???    Us "real" techs don't have no stinkin' iPhones. We have Panasonic CF-30 Toughbooks, thermal printers and docking ports in our trucks. >:D

We used those til we were issued ipads and iphones. I loved my toughbook til i put my knee through the top and destroyed the screen.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: PHall on December 08, 2012, 02:18:36 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on December 07, 2012, 11:56:28 PM
Quote from: PHall on December 07, 2012, 11:48:56 PMiPhone???    Us "real" techs don't have no stinkin' iPhones. We have Panasonic CF-30 Toughbooks, thermal printers and docking ports in our trucks. >:D

Not to mention sticky areas in various places in the shapes of the different phone companies AT&T has pretended to be since the divestiture.
We've got a few around here that still have a faint outline of a bell.

The truck I drive has had the Red and Grey racing stripes of Pacific Bell, the Infinty logo of SBC and now sports the Death Star of at&t.
But as long as there is a direct deposit into my checking account every other Friday, I don't really care.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: PHall on December 08, 2012, 02:23:25 AM
Quote from: Garibaldi on December 08, 2012, 02:13:46 AM
Quote from: PHall on December 07, 2012, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: Garibaldi on December 07, 2012, 11:04:57 PM
Quote from: rframe on December 07, 2012, 05:41:59 AM
Quote from: PHall on December 07, 2012, 05:37:06 AM
You must have a very tolerant employer. At AT&T use of a company computer for personal business is grounds for termination.

LOL, sounds like a great place to work.  I've worked in IT for over 15 years as the guy who enforces security policies, at everything from private start-ups, to IPO'd tech companies, to Fortune 1000 organizations and none have had a policy like that and if they did I dont think they'd retain much talent.

AT&T is a great place to work...but don't abuse their systems. There really is no warning for accessing sites they deem harmful or malicious. And woebetide the tech who tries too download Angry Birds on their company-issued iPhone...no mercy whatsoever.

iPhone???    Us "real" techs don't have no stinkin' iPhones. We have Panasonic CF-30 Toughbooks, thermal printers and docking ports in our trucks. >:D

We used those til we were issued ipads and iphones. I loved my toughbook til i put my knee through the top and destroyed the screen.

They keep threatening to take away our IFD's and it keeps getting delayed. We have one manager who tells us they keep putting it off because they haven't perfected the nueral implants, yet... >:D
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: Eclipse on December 08, 2012, 02:24:19 AM
Quote from: PHall on December 08, 2012, 02:18:36 AMThe truck I drive has had the Red and Grey racing stripes of Pacific Bell, the Infinty logo of SBC and now sports the Death Star of at&t. But as long as there is a direct deposit into my checking account every other Friday, I don't really care.

Point taken - both my dad and step mom were long term Illinois Bell employees.  He got retired on disability before things went South, but
she got squished in the shakeup. 

It's funny how after all the changes and new golf shirts, the company is back to being nearly a monopoly again.  A lot of people
I know never changed desks or jobs, just the logo on the checks occasionally was new.
Title: Re: Unable to login from work computer (Banned User / Multiple Accounts)
Post by: a2capt on December 08, 2012, 06:13:38 AM
Heh.. before things went South.. Southwestern Bell.. ;)


Breaking Up Is Hard On You - Bell System Divestiture (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZt1V8VqlAE#)