Whats Wrong with this Uniform?

[Always Ready]

If National puts out a picture with a bad uniform it would more "professional" to contact them and make them aware about it so they can fix it.

That would open up the door for all us uniform nazis to send an e-mail to every SM and Cadet that doesn't wear their uniform properly. How does inundating someone's e-mail account solve anything?

If anyone should be contacted, it should be that member's commander. Isn't it the commander's responsibility to make sure their people are wearing the uniform properly?

Personally, I don't have a problem with people critiquing other people's uniforms as long as it is kept professional. Embarrassing or attacking someone is not the solution. Showing them where to look for guidance (CAPM 39-1 in this case) and in some cases, how to fix the problem, is the solution. If it is a small thing, LET IT GO. If it is a major thing, show everyone the mistake and show EVERYONE how to fix it. Chances are if one person made a mistake, others have/will make the same mistake. Let's try be a part of the solution, not the problem.

[jeders]

As far as Pylons "the member is not here to defend against the argument", well neither is the National Commander, any of the CAP-USAF folks, or Wing Commanders.  Guess we should cut all discussions regarding NHQ, Wings, Air Force stuff, and pretty much anything!   

That's different. At those times we're discussing things that affecy us all. When you post a picture of an incorrect uniform, you're singling out one person and discussing that persons flaws.

[Timbo]

That's different. At those times we're discussing things that affecy us all. When you post a picture of an incorrect uniform, you're singling out one person and discussing that persons flaws.

Not flaws.....just inability to pay attention to detail.  A flaw would be the persons inability to make corrections because they have a terrible attitude when it comes to accepting criticism.

Also, not to drift but I hate how NHQ photoshops pictures.  If the member is not in correct uniform, shouldn't they find a different picture to use, and let the member know they need to reread a certain regulation. 

[Pylon]

Is it not better to showcase common mistakes??  It lets us learn from them.

You can talk about common mistakes so that others can learn from it without needing to post pictures.  If you absolutely need to show pictures, you can always post pictures of that mistake and/or the proper way as shown on your own uniform if you'd like -- much like the aforementioned example of the instructors at SLS or CLC.   Posting up some unsuspecting CAP member's photo and using it as an example of what not to do is inappropriate.

As far as Pylons "the member is not here to defend against the argument", well neither is the National Commander, any of the CAP-USAF folks, or Wing Commanders.  Guess we should cut all discussions regarding NHQ, Wings, Air Force stuff, and pretty much anything!

And we wouldn't allow you to specifically criticize the National Commander or other people as an individual either.  "I don't agree with the latest policy and here's why..." is a lot different than "General Smith is useless!"    Can you tell the difference?  We can.

You may not have been here, but when the Tony Pineda issue was fresh a lot of posts were deleted; the subject itself could be discussed as it was a public matter.  But the minute someone says "That guy is a bozo" the discussion crosses the line from being a professional discussion of a current event to an unprofessional comment about an individual's character.  That may not be the popular thing to do, that may not be what you all want.  It doesn't matter.  Our site, our rules; how we define professional and appropriate is where the bar gets set.

[SM-MADDOG]

I do agree that We must all know how to wear each of the uniforms properly. However I think CAPin general can also take some of this blame. They sometimes dont give enough if any training on proper wear of the uniform, plus they have so many different uniforms sets that You must attend a college course to learn how to wear them (that was a joke).

However My mom was reading an article in  a magazine where the regular Air Force members were complaining about ow the Air Force has way too many uniforms and uniform regulations. I have said from day one that CAP in general needs to stick to uniforms it has now or wants and keep them for a while, and I dont mean for 2 months I mean for 2 or more years.

I dont like all the changes CAP makes on uniforms. For example they made the U.S. Civil Air Patrol tape, they said by what 09 or 010 that We will have to change to that. I had bought My first set of BDU's so I went ahead and bought the US CAP tape. Then 3 to 4 weeks later CAP comes out and says oh We changed our mind on the US CAP tape. If We were getting out uniforms and equipment provided to us by CAP I wouldnt care what changes they made, but We buy our uniforms and I feel that making too many changes, and making a change then 2 months later say never mind is crazy. I've heard allot of members say the same thing, My entire squadron has said this.

I like the AF Blues, the Senior Officer Uniform White Shirt, AF Blue Pants, and the grey is okay also. I think they should either stick with AF Blue Pants or the grey. I like the AF Blue better than the Grey my self. I have both uniform sets. I have the polo shirt, SR Ofc uniform white shirt AF blue pants/grey also, I have the Blue BDU, and I have that new felece CAP jacket vanguard has for sale now. For uniform CAP's, I have the AF flight cap, The Blue BDU cap, and I have an AF Ball CAP style hat.

Also incase some of You dont know that CAP Polo shirt that sells on vanguard they now have a long sleeve polo shirt. Also the new flece jackets they have a hooded shirt to. Plenty of stuff for us to spend our money on lol.

[Hawk200]

However My mom was reading an article in  a magazine where the regular Air Force members were complaining about ow the Air Force has way too many uniforms and uniform regulations.

I'd love to see that article, because I find it hard to believe. The Air Force has typically had the fewest uniforms, and there has only ever been one uniform reg. There are local supplements to regs, but you can never go wrong by complying with the basic uniform publication.