Quick flying question...

[Stonewall]

Hey, going flying on Sunday as a "passenger" to ferry an aircraft to an ANG base for family day.  Anything I need other than myself, uniform and ID card? 

I haven't been flying since 2000 and I know there may be some requirements that I'm not aware of.  I'm just eager to fly in this "glass cockpit" 182 that's like not even a year old.

[CASH172]

You may wanna make sure you'll have a headset or something to cover your ears when you're in the plane.  Usually, most pilots have spares but just kinda make sure beforehand. 

[SJFedor]

Yay for flying the G1000!

It's a real neat toy, you'll enjoy it. It's like playing a video game.

Photo ID is usually a good idea, just in case. Dress for the weather you'll be flying in, and be prepared to spend the night in the woods.

Leave your handguns at home 

Headset is a good idea, unless the aircraft has some in it already.

Have fun!!!

[Trung Si Ma]

Hey, going flying on Sunday as a "passenger" to ferry an aircraft to an ANG base for family day.  Anything I need other than myself, uniform and ID card? 

Money to buy the pilot lunch, or at least some coffee or a soda. 

Seriously, take a camera unless there are restrictions on what you can photograph at the ANGB (TIK has a prohibition on personal cameras on the flight line).

Do some training on CRM with the pilot - you're not a "passenger", you're aircrew!

[Stonewall]

Thanks, guys.  Figured it wasn't a big deal, but I'm like a kid in a candy store.  Honestly though, I'm not a huge flyer type.  Was an active observer for years until my skills as a GT guy were in more demand with the number of GT cadets we had in the wing. 

The distance we're going takes 25 min to drive, so unless we get some "proficiency flying" in, it'll be a short trip.

....and be prepared to spend the night in the woods.

Let's hope my SERE school experience won't be necessary.

Leave your handguns at home 

I don't understand.  But we're one of the original Coastal Patrol squadrons, people are after us...

[JCW0312]

Leave your handguns at home 

I don't understand.  But we're one of the original Coastal Patrol squadrons, people are after us...

He said leave your handguns at home. Not your assault rifle. Pay attention! 

[SJFedor]

Leave your handguns at home 

I don't understand.  But we're one of the original Coastal Patrol squadrons, people are after us...

He said leave your handguns at home. Not your assault rifle. Pay attention! 

Of course, you NEVER leave home w/o something in 5.56mm or larger 

Enjoy the flight, learn all you can, play with the CAP radios in the aircraft. They may have changed since you last flew. The new TDFMs are rather sweet.

[Stonewall]

Had a good time.  Stood out at a static display for about 5 hours at the local ANG family day.  The plane was a big hit.

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[Stonewall]

And one more pic.

[mikeylikey]

^ Awesome Pics!

[JCW0312]

Glad you had fun. Who's the goofball in the pictures?

[Duke Dillio]

Does the guy in the flightsuit come with the plane?  If so, my fiancee wants to know if the plane wouldn't mind taking an extended cross country flight to Cali...    :angel:

[Cmdbuddy]

Does the guy in the flightsuit come with the plane?  If so, my fiancee wants to know if the plane wouldn't mind taking an extended cross country flight to Cali...    :angel:

UK's married...



Unfortunately

[Cmdbuddy]

I like my dad's glass better than the C-182

[Stonewall]

I like my dad's glass better than the C-182

Yeah?  Well I like my dad's 15 passenger Chevy van better than my squadron's 15 passenger Ford van, so there.

[Duke Dillio]

Great pics there Kirt.  Hey, haven't I seen that dude before?  Oh wait, yeah, here he is:



Rock on dude!!!   

[Stonewall]

Regarding my flying experience, I realize it's not a big deal, people fly all the time in CAP, but it's sort of a big deal for me since I haven't flown as an observer in like 10 years.  I was a pretty active Observer in NATCAP wing, but after my 2 really good friends crashed a CAP plane during a mountain flying clinic, and the need for more ground pounders in my wing at the time, I had no problem taking a break.

I've jumped from planes and have flown like 300,000 miles in the past 6 years commercially during my travels.  But this morning, I was very nervous for some reason.  My stomach was in knots and I was a bit anxious.  But it was a smooth flight, not too long, not too short.  So I think I'm going to get checked out as an Observer again and join the other aircrew types in the squadron.

[Duke Dillio]

DON'T TURN TO THE DARK SIDE KIRT!!!

[Tubacap]

WELCOME!

[Stonewall]

Actually, I just want a cool headset.  Gear queer strikes again...

My two buddies I talked about above survived and I found a note about the crash, but it was in 1996.  Guess I had my timeline off a little.  I just remember flying in 2000 to the Andrews AFB Air Show from Davison AAF.

Anyway, here is the story:

During a Mountain Flying Clinic, a mission instructor and two other crewmembers who had completed the academic portion of the course the day prior, departed in a 160HP C-172 to practice a mountain contour search. The instructor told the pilot in command to climb over the ridge ahead so that they could resume the search on the other side. Full power was applied as the aircraft headed for the ridge. The terrain outperformed the aircraft and it crashed approximately 100 feet below the 4500 foot crest. The aircraft impacted the trees and came to rest inverted about 25 feet above the ground. The aircraft was badly damaged; however, the crew egressed safely using the tie-down ropes to lower themselves to the ground. Don't we teach flying down-slope rather than up-slope? Why didn't the other crewmembers speak up? They had attended the same mountain flying clinic. Just because you're not the PIC, don't just sit there when you see a dangerous situation developing.