Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico

Started by etodd, September 08, 2017, 10:50:28 PM

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etodd

Quote... Meanwhile, in Puerto Rico, slammed by Irma on Wednesday, six volunteers from mainland CAP units were deployed Friday to provide support for the wing's aerial assessments and photography missions for federal relief agencies.

http://www.cap.news/wings-plans-take-shape-as-irma-approaches-fla/
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Eclipse

They are flying to PRWG now?!

Isn't that like, a really bad idea, especially over water?

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etodd

Quote from: stillamarine on September 08, 2017, 11:32:18 PM
Including 3 from our wing

Yep. One of them from my Squadron. Being a marketing guy I'm chomping at the bit wanting to spread the news around in the media , but PIO folks asking me to hold off until Hdqs approves everything. We even have some great photos of the 6 in front of the USAF 737 they took. But told not to use them.

By the time its approved, a few weeks from now, it'll be good for our Squadron's history page. LOL
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etodd

Quote from: Eclipse on September 09, 2017, 12:11:57 AM
They are flying to PRWG now?!

Isn't that like, a really bad idea, especially over water?

They have been there via 737 many hours ago. :)
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Quote from: etodd on September 09, 2017, 12:31:46 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on September 09, 2017, 12:11:57 AM
They are flying to PRWG now?!

Isn't that like, a really bad idea, especially over water?

They have been there via 737 many hours ago. :)

I suspect Eclipse thinks you had originally meant they were getting there in a CAP plane..

But then again, thats how SER swaps planes with PR.  Its not like they get miracled there.
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Eclipse

Quote from: NIN on September 09, 2017, 01:43:00 AM

I suspect Eclipse thinks you had originally meant they were getting there in a CAP plane..

But then again, thats how SER swaps planes with PR.  Its not like they get miracled there.

Yes, but not into a storm with 100MPH+ winds.

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etodd

Quote from: Eclipse on September 09, 2017, 03:47:21 AM
Quote from: NIN on September 09, 2017, 01:43:00 AM

I suspect Eclipse thinks you had originally meant they were getting there in a CAP plane..

But then again, thats how SER swaps planes with PR.  Its not like they get miracled there.

Yes, but not into a storm with 100MPH+ winds.

I'm sure our guys in the USAF 737 got a nice view of it while flying well above it. :)
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abdsp51

Quote from: etodd on September 09, 2017, 04:10:19 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on September 09, 2017, 03:47:21 AM
Quote from: NIN on September 09, 2017, 01:43:00 AM

I suspect Eclipse thinks you had originally meant they were getting there in a CAP plane..

But then again, thats how SER swaps planes with PR.  Its not like they get miracled there.

Yes, but not into a storm with 100MPH+ winds.

I'm sure our guys in the USAF 737 got a nice view of it while flying well above it. :)

USAF doesn't use a 737 for cargo or pax (DV bird is the exception)  your data is flawed..

etodd

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Quote from: abdsp51 on September 09, 2017, 02:35:46 PM
Quote from: etodd on September 09, 2017, 04:10:19 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on September 09, 2017, 03:47:21 AM
Quote from: NIN on September 09, 2017, 01:43:00 AM

I suspect Eclipse thinks you had originally meant they were getting there in a CAP plane..

But then again, thats how SER swaps planes with PR.  Its not like they get miracled there.

Yes, but not into a storm with 100MPH+ winds.

I'm sure our guys in the USAF 737 got a nice view of it while flying well above it. :)

USAF doesn't use a 737 for cargo or pax (DV bird is the exception)  your data is flawed..

Yes. DV aircraft.  I'll post the photo as soon as the PIO lets me. (Darn these OPSEC people. LOL)  Clue is that while AF, its painted sorta like a Presidential plane.
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NIN

Quote from: abdsp51 on September 09, 2017, 02:35:46 PM
USAF doesn't use a 737 for cargo or pax (DV bird is the exception)  your data is flawed..

Can we give the guy the benefit of the doubt absent further data?

The USAF does use 737s as for pax as the C-40B or C-40C.  They don't use them for cargo in the same way they transport cargo in the KC-135/C-137 or KC-10 variants, but surely they can put *some* "cargo" in the aircraft in the same way the airlines can (ie. loaded in the belly).

He said 737. The man is a pilot. I can assume that he probably, maybe, likely, can identify a 737 or a 737 variant 3 out of 4 times without flashcards.



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etodd

#12
Its public info now. Here is the crew (AL, TN, FL members) about to load up and head to Puerto Rico. This was before Irma hit FL:



Here is media coverage as they return:

http://www.pnj.com/story/news/2017/09/15/civil-air-patrol-completes-mission-returns-home/669445001/
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Very nice.  I see some of my WESS colleagues in that photo.
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NIN

A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P
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abdsp51

Quote from: NIN on September 15, 2017, 09:11:17 PM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P

Go back and read that post....

etodd

Quote from: abdsp51 on September 16, 2017, 01:46:46 AM
Quote from: NIN on September 15, 2017, 09:11:17 PM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P

Go back and read that post....

The crew wasn't just DV ... they were VERY DV.  :)
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PHall

Quote from: NIN on September 15, 2017, 09:11:17 PM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P

You're right, they don't use 737's, they use C-40B/C's.

SarDragon

Quote from: PHall on September 16, 2017, 04:57:30 AM
Quote from: NIN on September 15, 2017, 09:11:17 PM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P

You're right, they don't use 737's, they use C-40B/C's.

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Vegas1972

Quote from: PHall on September 16, 2017, 04:57:30 AM
Quote from: NIN on September 15, 2017, 09:11:17 PM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P

You're right, they don't use 737's, they use C-40B/C's.

Not always,  a handful of 737's. 
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.", Sgt. John M. Stryker.

PHall

Quote from: Vegas1972 on September 16, 2017, 04:21:41 PM
Quote from: PHall on September 16, 2017, 04:57:30 AM
Quote from: NIN on September 15, 2017, 09:11:17 PM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P

You're right, they don't use 737's, they use C-40B/C's.

Not always,  a handful of 737's.

The Air Force had a bunch of 737's before, aka the T-43A Navigation Trainers. Some of those were repurposed when the need for Navigators went down and they didn't need as many trainers.

Vegas1972

Quote from: PHall on September 16, 2017, 06:33:02 PM
Quote from: Vegas1972 on September 16, 2017, 04:21:41 PM
Quote from: PHall on September 16, 2017, 04:57:30 AM
Quote from: NIN on September 15, 2017, 09:11:17 PM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P

You're right, they don't use 737's, they use C-40B/C's.

Not always,  a handful of 737's.

The Air Force had a bunch of 737's before, aka the T-43A Navigation Trainers. Some of those were repurposed when the need for Navigators went down and they didn't need as many trainers.

Currently, a handful are registered as 737-66N's, not T-43's, or C-40's. 
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JoeTomasone

TS Maria is forecast to become a Cat3 hurricane and impact PRWG mid-week.    :(


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Joe, how dare you bring up real world mission related weather intelligence when people are bickering about a plane that most of them have never seen.....
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PHall

Quote from: THRAWN on September 16, 2017, 10:54:13 PM
Joe, how dare you bring up real world mission related weather intelligence when people are bickering about a plane that most of them have never seen.....

Speak for yourself there Bucko. Speak for yourself.

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Nick

Quote from: MSG Mac on September 17, 2017, 12:38:01 AM
The military has been using DV as an acronym for over 50 years for O-6 and above. Also for E-9 and high level civilians
O-6's and GS-15's, yes.

E-9's are not DV ranked besides getting a suite in lodging and a nice parking place.


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goblin

Quote from: Nick on October 03, 2017, 12:43:20 AM
Quote from: MSG Mac on September 17, 2017, 12:38:01 AM
The military has been using DV as an acronym for over 50 years for O-6 and above. Also for E-9 and high level civilians
O-6's and GS-15's, yes.

E-9's are not DV ranked besides getting a suite in lodging and a nice parking place.


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Depends on the E-9

"In accordance with the Department of Defense (DoD) Order of Precedence, the CMSAF position is coded DV Code 4 and AF 3-star precedence."