Color Guard

[BTCS1 C/CC]

Write about your color guard expierences or any questions about color guard or regulations

[BTCS1*]

There are no "color guard regs" just the D and C manual and the honor guard manual. SIR!

[Eclipse]

Why do you guys have the same user ID?

As to the regs, there are rules for NCC - see CAPM 52-4. 

While these are rules for competition, your best bet is to review them and do what they say for any parts that touch what you will be doing for issues of standardization and on the off chance you ever do compete, you don't have to relearn everything.

[notaNCO forever]

 When I was on color guard we had a rules of engagement manual (ROE).

[SarDragon]

When I was on color guard we had a rules of engagement manual (ROE).

The ROE manual is now CAPM 52-4.

[Airrace]

What is the correct uniform for the Color Guard? I have seen some cadets in class A jackets and others in just the blue Air Force dress uniform less the jacket. Do they wear the white cord? What about a tie?

[Eclipse]

In regards to competition, see Page 11 of CAPM 52-4.

For raising or posting colors at local activities, its whatever the local commander and/or weather dictates.

[SarDragon]

What is the correct uniform for the Color Guard?

Whatever the project officer says it is. It can vary from event to event.

I have seen some cadets in class A jackets and others in just the blue Air Force dress uniform less the jacket.

There's no such CAP uniform as Class A. That is an ancient, long outmoded term.

Do they wear the white cord?

Usually.

What about a tie?

Depends on the uniform, and the event.

[Eclipse]

Do they wear the white cord?

Usually.

White cords are only supposed to be worn by NCC teams, not your friendly neighborhood unit flag posters.

...The wing/region commander has authority to approve the following items for wear within his wing: (a) Shoulder cords. Not more than one shoulder cord will be worn at one time, and it will be worn on the left shoulder (see Figure 5-2. Color to be determined by the wing commander, EXCEPT all primary members of Cadet Advisory Councils will wear gold at the National level, blue at region level and red at wing level. (See CAPR 52-16, CAP Cadet Program Management.) National Cadet Competition teams will wear white shoulder cords...

[DC]

Do they wear the white cord?

Usually.

White cords are only supposed to be worn by NCC teams, not your friendly neighborhood unit flag posters.

Is there anything that says it can't be worn by a local Color Guard? I know FLWG has a different cord that unit CGs are supposed to wear, but that's a wing policy...

[Eclipse]

FWIW, my interpretation would be that a Wing CC has the authority to approve wear of any cord color except the below, since they are already designated in 39-1.

White - NCC Teams
Silver - Honor Guard
Green - Group CAC
Red - Wing CAC
Gold - NCAC

Other than that I'd think they can authorize anything they want for wear within the respective state.

IMHO, since the white cord is reserved for an NCC team, if the group of cadets aren't on a coherent competition team, they should not wear a white cord.

[BTCS1*]

i thought the white cord was for any CG? at least thats what the uniform man. says...

[lordmonar]

Your local color guard team can be considered an NCC team.   They are the local entry.

[BTCS1*]

that works.

[BillB]

Actually it doesn't. If your team won Wing comp. it does, but the question has always come up since 39-1 and 52-16 don't define what a NCC team is. Most Wing appear to allow the white cord to the winners of the Wing Comp as a minimum.

[Eclipse]

i thought the white cord was for any CG? at least thats what the uniform man. says...

What the uniform manual says is quoted (in bold) above - RIF.

Your local color guard team can be considered an NCC team.   They are the local entry.

If they are competing and training as a team, yes.  My wing doesn't currently have any NCC plans or involvement, so no one in my units is supposed to be wearing a white cord.

[jimmydeanno]

Actually it doesn't. If your team won Wing comp. it does, but the question has always come up since 39-1 and 52-16 don't define what a NCC team is. Most Wing appear to allow the white cord to the winners of the Wing Comp as a minimum.

Not true, considering that the cord is part of the NCC uniform requirements.  Any team showing up for inspection is supposed to have the cords on.

[BTCS1*]

and 39-1 says that CG members can wear the cord. it doesn't state NCC teams.

[Eclipse]

and 39-1 says that CG members can wear the cord. it doesn't state NCC teams.

Cite, please.  The relevant text is above.

[SarDragon]

This is one of those items that can be read/interpreted more than one way.

As I read this quote,

Color to be determined by the wing commander, EXCEPT all primary members of Cadet Advisory Councils will wear gold at the National level, blue at region level and red at wing level. (See CAPR 52-16, CAP Cadet Program Management.) National Cadet Competition teams will wear white shoulder cords.

the bold text imposes a limitation on the wear of gold, blue, and red cords. The underlined text imposes a requirement for wear of the white cord by NCC teams. Therefore, the Wing CC may prescribe the white cord for color guards.

YMMV.