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wmackirdy
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« on: February 04, 2018, 07:44:53 PM »

The new National Website, on the Level II Training page, includes Lesson Plans, Student Guides, and Slides for SLS. Is it possible to take the course online, or does is it classroom only?
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SM Wayne MacKirdy
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kwe1009
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2018, 08:03:33 PM »

SLS, CLC, and UCC are all available online.  You register through eServices.
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Fester
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2018, 08:51:11 PM »

SLS, CLC, and UCC are all available online.  You register through eServices.

But all three require in-residence portions don't they?
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"Fester," 1st Lt, CAP
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grunt82abn
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2018, 09:21:25 PM »

I did not have an in-residence for SLS, nor do I think the others have one either


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Sean Riley, TSGT
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arajca
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2018, 09:29:45 PM »

All three are available in both on-line and in-person versions. The lesson plans, etc, are for the in-person version to allow directors, staff, and instructors to access them easily.
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Mordecai
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2018, 09:39:55 PM »

There are also "blended" courses available in some areas.
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shuman14
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2018, 09:58:36 PM »

Question, would CAP allow non-members attend an in-residence course?

For an example an USCGAux member or a local volunteer search and rescue team looking for a basic leadership course for volunteers to attend?
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Joseph J. Clune
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arajca
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2018, 10:31:41 PM »

Given that these are course specific to CAP, and are not general leadership type courses, I think it would a waste of their time.
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SarDragon
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2018, 06:21:35 AM »

Given that these are course specific to CAP, and are not general leadership type courses, I think it would a waste of their time.

For the most part, agreed. There are tidbits in just about every lesson that could be considered general leadership, but it's mostly CAP-centric.
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Dave Bowles
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kwe1009
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2018, 11:20:17 AM »

SLS, CLC, and UCC are all available online.  You register through eServices.

But all three require in-residence portions don't they?

All three are available 100% online.  SLS and CLC is also available 100% in residence.  UCC is available as a blended course with some online work and then an in residence piece.  You can't do UCC 100% in residence any longer.
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MDMike2017
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2018, 01:10:40 PM »

All 3 are available online and registered via eServices. I'm taking SLS online right now, but it's also offered locally wing-to-wing.
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MacGruff
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2018, 07:35:02 PM »

I'd like to put a plug in for in-person attendance.

I have been through it myself, as well as taught it several times in the past months. There are two significant benefits to attending in-person that are not available to you if you take it on-line:

1.   While the slides and reading materials are standardized (and out of date in some cases), there is significant discussion that addresses the meaning and local implications of these that is irreplaceable
2.   Meeting other members of the organization who are at the same spot in their CAP "careers" leads to contacts that can prove to be very helpful

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kwe1009
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2018, 07:40:44 PM »

I'd like to put a plug in for in-person attendance.

I have been through it myself, as well as taught it several times in the past months. There are two significant benefits to attending in-person that are not available to you if you take it on-line:

1.   While the slides and reading materials are standardized (and out of date in some cases), there is significant discussion that addresses the meaning and local implications of these that is irreplaceable
2.   Meeting other members of the organization who are at the same spot in their CAP "careers" leads to contacts that can prove to be very helpful

Definitely agree.  Even if you already took the classes online, you will get a lot out of going back and doing it in residence.
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Fester
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2018, 08:08:41 PM »

For those with experience doing SLS and CLC online....

From my understanding, these are a weekly "meeting" via teleconferencing. What nights do these courses usually meet?
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Ozzy
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2018, 08:39:16 PM »

For those with experience doing SLS and CLC online....

From my understanding, these are a weekly "meeting" via teleconferencing. What nights do these courses usually meet?

I did online CLC and we didn't have any teleconferencing. We had weekly reading and assignments and they were pass/fail with minimal effort from some of the participants. I was a bit disappointed with it honestly but I understand that is run by volunteers.
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Ozyilmaz, TSgt, CAP
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Fester
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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2018, 12:10:52 AM »


I did online CLC and we didn't have any teleconferencing. We had weekly reading and assignments and they were pass/fail with minimal effort from some of the participants. I was a bit disappointed with it honestly but I understand that is run by volunteers.

Glad to hear it.  Weeknights and Weekends are when I work.  So pretty much every extra-curricular event (with a few irregular exceptions) don't fit in with my schedule.
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"Fester," 1st Lt, CAP
Yeager Award - 18
Eaker Award - 96

TXWG CAC - 96 (Vice Chair), 97 (Chair)
Encampments (CAWG, TXWG, OKWG) - 93, 94, 95, 96 (x2), 97
Brit_in_CAP
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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2018, 09:40:13 AM »

For those with experience doing SLS and CLC online....

From my understanding, these are a weekly "meeting" via teleconferencing. What nights do these courses usually meet?

I did online CLC and we didn't have any teleconferencing. We had weekly reading and assignments and they were pass/fail with minimal effort from some of the participants. I was a bit disappointed with it honestly but I understand that is run by volunteers.
I did the online SLS - no teleconference.  The online CLC is presented via Blackboard, which is a high quality web-based provider of online material for various organizations.  The presentation is good but there is no teleconference aspect to the class.  Regular participation is required to pass.  Ozzy's comment about minimal participation is an excellent observation, and it can apply to any class you take online.  One of my work colleagues took a bachelor's degree via the Phoenix online system; the material was good, and the outcomes were excellent, but she deliberately took a break at one point so that she was taken out of a particular 'learning group' due to several of that cohort not supporting the team effort but still getting passing grades.  The equivalent to sitting at the back of the room and staying quiet, I suppose!

Here's my 10 cents...spend wisely!  Online isn't suitable for every subject.  In person is the best way to attend any training or class, but an online experience is better than not taking the training.   If you can later attend an in-person class or part of it, so much the better but at least you're doing the training.
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shuman14
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2018, 11:14:14 AM »

For the most part, agreed. There are tidbits in just about every lesson that could be considered general leadership, but it's mostly CAP-centric.

Thank you.
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Joseph J. Clune
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USMCR: 1990 - 1992                           USAR: 1993 -1998, 2000 - Present     CAP (National Patron) 2013 - Present
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