I would like to retire fm CAP.
Realizing that no one deserves promotion, which I acknowledged when on 01 Oct 2017, I sent an official memorandum Ltr, addressed to the grp VC and CC (in turn), [size=78%] requesting that I be promoted for the following reasons:[/size]* before the window of promoting closed next year August. (I also provided a copy of CAPR 36-5, paragraph 2.1.2, figure 2, NOTE, giving details about those with DOR before 13 August 2014 could be promoted under the old criteria as long as the application was completed before 13 August 2018.* due to the advancement of my multiple sclerosis, I believe I could no longer participate actively in CAP, and since I can no longer drive, I wanted to free up my wife fm driving me once a month, the 40 minuets one-way to grp meetings while she waited for me, reading a book or calling her daughter, mother and/or friend until the meeting was over.
I have yet to hear or have acknowledged fm the cmd staff about my request. My observation is that if for any reason the wing doesn’t believe I should not be promoted, an official letter should be generated stating why they believe this.
I’d like to retire after the first of the year. CAP is no longer fun. I feel the organization has treated me unprofessionally and after years of abuse, I’d just like to leave.
I’d like to hear fm this blog’s many Lt Colonels what course of action should I pursue that would not upset anyone.
Before my time runs out (both professionally and physically) I’d like some suggestions as to what to do next. My thinking is since my cmd Staff has my request but has not acknowledged that they have ( although it’s only been three weeks I’ve officially requested promotion and four months since I’ve unofficially asked about my promotion due to the reasons already stated), that if I don’t hear anything fm anyone about this subject, I should write to the wing IG just asking if ive offended anyone? Baring discrimination because of my MS, what could be the problem?
Perhaps the situation will resolve itself since it’s only been a month, they may be processing my request. I just wanted opinions as to what would be the proper thing to do.
Quote from: DemonOps on October 28, 2017, 08:41:39 AMI would like to retire fm CAP. Quote from: DemonOps on October 28, 2017, 08:41:39 AM Realizing that no one deserves promotion, which I acknowledged when on 01 Oct 2017, I sent an official memorandum Ltr, addressed to the grp VC and CC (in turn), [size=78%] requesting that I be promoted for the following reasons:[/size]* before the window of promoting closed next year August. (I also provided a copy of CAPR 36-5, paragraph 2.1.2, figure 2, NOTE, giving details about those with DOR before 13 August 2014 could be promoted under the old criteria as long as the application was completed before 13 August 2018.* due to the advancement of my multiple sclerosis, I believe I could no longer participate actively in CAP, and since I can no longer drive, I wanted to free up my wife fm driving me once a month, the 40 minuets one-way to grp meetings while she waited for me, reading a book or calling her daughter, mother and/or friend until the meeting was over.Do you meet the criteria to be promoted under the grandfather clause?Quote from: DemonOps on October 28, 2017, 08:41:39 AM I have yet to hear or have acknowledged fm the cmd staff about my request. My observation is that if for any reason the wing doesn’t believe I should not be promoted, an official letter should be generated stating why they believe this.Some type of response would be good, but you are not owed an official letter stating why.
Actually a response is required if you have been officially put up for promotion from CAPR 35-51.8.5. If any commander in the chain of command disapproves a recommendation for promotion orrequest for waiver, he or she will so indicate, providing a reason for the denial, over his or her signatureon the CAPF 2 and will return the CAPF 2 to the initiator through channels. If the National Awards andPromotion Team denies a request for waiver, it will provide a reason for the denial and return the requestto the initiator through channels. In neither case does such disapproval preclude the individual from beingrecommended for promotion at some future date.
A promotion can die on the desk at any level with zero recourse.
Im not knocking in any way someone wanting to retire. I just find it interesting that there is a formal closure to volunteering. Once you retire from CAP are you just done? Can you go back in another capacity or still participate without being a member? Is it the official way of telling CAP "Yeah.... Im officially outta here" Its not like there is any financial aspect to retiring like a job. Does it just provide some sort of emotional closure to the deal? You have documented proof that you finished what you started?
Here's my question. Was DemonOps actually put in for promotion? You can't initiate your own promotion can you?
I shared with him that CAP was no longer fun, and I’d wanted help in achieving my senior rating so I could make Major
Quote from: Flying Pig on October 28, 2017, 02:59:34 PMIm not knocking in any way someone wanting to retire. I just find it interesting that there is a formal closure to volunteering. Once you retire from CAP are you just done? Can you go back in another capacity or still participate without being a member? Is it the official way of telling CAP "Yeah.... Im officially outta here" Its not like there is any financial aspect to retiring like a job. Does it just provide some sort of emotional closure to the deal? You have documented proof that you finished what you started?Speaking as a guy who had more than 20 years as a senior when he "retired," and then came back 4 years later... Retiring can be like a pause button without losing anything.
OK... so you could still rejoin then? That makes sense. Now that Ive been out about 6 years, I dread going back and starting over. All the PD stuff, etc. If I could just come back in, review and forward march, I might be more inclined.
I'm grateful to find out that the problem was that no one was communicating with me. Eight years ago, I made the mistake of asking wing if they've received my commanding officer's submission for my promotion. A very stupid mistake, even though at the time, ppl weren't very talkative.
Everyone is just different. When my time comes, or if CAP is 'no longer fun' I'll simply just not go to any more meetings. No goodbyes. No formalities. I don't expect a goodbye party or anything to frame for the wall. Its not like leaving a paying job, where you have to make sure to get your pension in order, etc.I can understand the 'personal satisfaction' aspect of wanting to go out as a Major. But its not like you're going to get a bigger pension because of it.
Floated in and out of CAP several times. Every time when it quit being "fun" I would just quit attending meetings, let my annual membership run out and disappear. The only exception was my most recent (and final) departure. The squadron was being dissolved and at a meeting the then commander was asking everyone their preference as to which of the other squadrons they wanted to transfer to. I had already decided that I was not going to renew membership for another year so when he asked I just said none, I was done. The only time I ever announced to anyone I was leaving before it happened.
I have already seen too many rank obsessed members in my short CAP career.
Quote from: kwe1009 on November 21, 2017, 02:08:35 PM I have already seen too many rank obsessed members in my short CAP career.Ahem...That's "rank obsessed members...SIR!"