Training classes

[Nikos]

I currently have Patron Status.  I have taken FEMA classes IS-100, IS-200 and IS-700.  My question is can I list these on my Personnel record now, or do I have to wait until I am active?    I can't seem to find an answer on the CAP website.  Any info would be a great help.  Thanks

[Luis R. Ramos]

The answer you seek is in the CAP Regulations. Consult these first.

Read CAPR 39-2 3-1. a. Active Member, and b. Reserve/Patron Member.

Link http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/R039_002_A74FDA9552C2D.pdf

[TheSkyHornet]

The answer you seek is in the CAP Regulations. Consult these first.

Read CAPR 39-2 3-1. a. Active Member, and b. Reserve/Patron Member.

Link http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/R039_002_A74FDA9552C2D.pdf

As an Admin Officer, do you answer questions at your unit in such a manner?


Nikos, I don't have a clear answer this that. I'm no expert on the subject, but you may attend wing and regional conferences; however, I do not know if you're allowed to attend any training/classes at those conferences. If permitted to attend, I suppose you would be able to log that on your training record (which should be punched in by the instructor). You will not, however, be able to participate in any field training or squadron activities aside from social events, nor may you lead further training or apply your training to CAP duties. You're essentially a paying member without privileges other than attendance.

A PDO should probably answer this question more appropriately.

[EMT-83]

This is not a PDO question, unless your PDO also maintains your personnel records.

There is really no point to a Patron member having training records in their personnel file, but there's also nothing which prohibits it. Personally, if asked I would include them.

[Garibaldi]

My question is, what do you mean by list it? Are you wanting to put it on the big pink folder? Or are you wanting it listed in e-services for ES training? Once you become a regular member, all you have to do is upload copies of the certificates to e-services and they will automatically populate, never expiring.

If you're just wanting to put them in your 201/personnel file, there's nothing to stop you from that, but they will do nothing for you as a patron. Just as an active GT member.

[TheSkyHornet]

Do Patrons maintain a 101?

This is something I really don't experience as a CDC.

[Nikos]

Thanks Garibaldi that answers my question.  I was not aware that they did not expire.  My thinking was that I did not want to take them again when I become active.

[TheSkyHornet]

Thanks Garibaldi that answers my question.  I was not aware that they did not expire.  My thinking was that I did not want to take them again when I become active.

Save a record of any training you receive, whether it ends up on your eServices record or in a paper file in your personnel folder. I always like to have duplicates.

[vorteks]

Nikos, I don't have a clear answer this that. I'm no expert on the subject

Then why did you chime in at all?

[Holding Pattern]

I currently have Patron Status.  I have taken FEMA classes IS-100, IS-200 and IS-700.  My question is can I list these on my Personnel record now, or do I have to wait until I am active?    I can't seem to find an answer on the CAP website.  Any info would be a great help.  Thanks

Individuals who belong to CAP
in other membership categories such as reserve/patron, cadet sponsor, aerospace education, retired, cadet, etc., are not eligible for duty assignments.

So this is what it boils down to. As a patron, you cannot be in any duty position, therefore, there would be no purpose in uploading your fema training.

That being said, it sounds like you may be considering transitioning from Patron to Active status. There is no reason not to take the applicable FEMA courses now before you do so, as to my knowledge they do not expire, and it is a simple matter to upload all your certificates once your active status is confirmed. IS-800 would be the last online course applicable to CAP: http://www.capmembers.com/emergency_services/operations_support/national-incident-management-system-nims/
And ICS 300-400 are usually available from local agencies.

Hope this helps.

[THRAWN]

The answer you seek is in the CAP Regulations. Consult these first.

Read CAPR 39-2 3-1. a. Active Member, and b. Reserve/Patron Member.

Link http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/R039_002_A74FDA9552C2D.pdf

This isn't even close to answering the question. Include them. There is no prohibition against it.