CAP member speaks out about 9-11 health risk coverup

[A.Member]

You guys know the reason why we got the Maroon epaulets and such as well, right?

All I have ever been able to discern is someone did something that was seen as wrong while wearing an AF style CAP uniform. Everyone seems to dance around the issue like it is forbidden to speak of it.

"Do not speak its name so as not to call upon its wrath!", or some such noise.

Now if it is forbidden by regulation or notice from the NB to speak of the situation then fine so be it. But if its not forbidden then I hope everyone can stop being childish and just let us newer members in on the story.

I don't think it's any big secret.  The story, as the way it was told to me, is that one of the esteemed former National Commanders, Eugene Harwell, took it upon himself to wear 2-stars (Maj. Gen.) rather than the 1-star (Brig. Gen.) he was authorized.  He may have also done away with the CAP designation on the epaulet.  As if that weren't bad enough, while at some sort of conference or something, he actually demanded a salute from a high ranking USAF officer - like a Col. or possibly a Brig. Gen.  Needless to say, the AF was not amused - it was nearly the end of the organization and the start of maroon epaulets.  This is why we'll never see blue ones again.   

[DNall]

He may be referring to my reply to the issue with the PAWG Major.

Anyway, pondering, is this really something NHQ PA needs to jump on? I'd be concerned if it was on something more then some raggedy website claiming "environmental conspiracy", like CNN, Fox, Oprah, Geraldo, even Jerry. This might be one of those moments when not saying anything will draw less attention then engaging the issue.

Granted. The best thing here is to deal with these things quietly. the investigation & subsequent prosecution should occur, but not plastered all up here or elsewhere for the world to see.

If on quick review NHQ finds this to be completely false (say the guy was never a CAP member) then they should issue a noice on the news section of the site simplly saying: "this guy is not now nor has he ever been a CAP member. He wa snot activated for CAP service during 9/11, and we never heard of him. Beyond that, CAP is unable to comment on ongoing internal or external investigations. The CAP IG is providing any available assistance to the FBI & AFOSI. Please refer questions to those agencies."

[RiverAux]

This isn't just the website.  The story on the website was linked to a National Public Radio station program called "Guns and Butter" which is syndicated all across the country to various NPR stations.   Most of the info I posted was gained from listening to the 15 minutes or so from this fellows speech that was part of an hour-long program on the topic.

Plus, this is the sort of thing that could very easily get significant national attention if a reporter for a major media outlet decided to pick up on it.

[Major Carrales]

More on Major McCormick...some people don't have a clue about CAP and FEMA.  I worry about the validity when agendistic thing like... "Major Mike McCormick on the Alex Jones program, exposing the American Gestapo!" come up on a google search.   Sorry, send up a big red flag!!!  Political Grandstanding...or a true victim?


http://digg.com/politics/9_11_Hero_harassed_by_feds_after_speaking_at_9_11_Illness_event

*Podcast Link* Major Mike McCormick, the man who found the American flag in the rubble was raided by a federal SWAT team after speaking out at a 9-11 gathering this week. Listen to Thursday podcast, around the 3rd hour mark - no media coverage of this story yet. The Major spoke out about WTC illness and his belief 9-11 is an inside job.

http://canadianactionparty.ca/cgi/page.cgi?zine=show&aid=197&_id=64

Major Mike McCormack - Medic; specialist in collapsed infrastructure rescue and hazardous materials. Major Mike McCormick, at the time holding the rank of Captain with the U.S. Air Force Auxiliary Patrol, arrived at Ground Zero about three hours after both towers had collapsed. He worked throughout the first six days of the rescue effort, until it changed from search and recovery to recovery only. While engaged in this work, he found the World Trade Center towers' flag, which was later displayed at the Olympics. Major McCormick now suffers from respiratory illness and gastro-esophageal reflux disease. He was awarded a Congressional Certificate, a thank you letter from the President, and a commendation from Governor Pataki. He was denied coverage by the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund because it asserted that he had not proved that he was there.


Updated on 2006-Oct-17 17:16

http://www.libertyforall.net/?p=128

Addendum: The writer just finished listening to an interview with Major Mike McCormick (not certain of the spelling as it was an audio interview) of the FEMA Disaster Relief Command until his resignation after the below happened.  He is one of the people that arrived at the towers just after they collapsed and worked day after day searching for survivors.   He went public with the damage done to him, firemen, police, national guard people, and so on that worked to find survivors for days.  During the recent memorial for 9-11, he was honored once again as a Ground Zero hero.

Sadly, he is dying from asbestos poisoning along with dozens upon dozens others that worked diligently to find survivors.  One of the dying is David Miller, who at the time of this writing had three months to live.  Mr. McCormick obtained the documents that told the truth about the dust created when the federal government imploded the two towers and brought them down just before he arrived, and then Building 7 later.  He made the documents available plus the fact that there were many explosions as reported by firemen, police, and survivors of this heinous crime against America by the federal government and its controllers.

A day after his recognition he was subjected first to a few of what he still believes to be New York City’s finest - its law enforcers.  The head guy got him to sign a form that it was okay for them to enter, as he “had nothing to hide.”  Three minutes later from 12 to 15 federal Gestapo, black-garbed traitors to America, federal enforcers, forced their way in with automatic weapons and 9 mm handguns pointed at his head.  If he breathed wrong, he would have had his head blown off.

Thus, his home was ram shacked and he was arrested because of a pistol he had, a fully legal pistol which he should have had 48 hours to get it back to Pennsylvania.  He had told them about the pistol - they did not have to look for it but having the pistol became the “crime” they are attempting to prosecute him on.  What a shabby land full of liars, thieves, and uniformed terrorists America has become.

Anyway, the black-garbed “like a Darth Vader convention for loser,” as described by Mr. McCormick, cussed at him constantly, questioned him about equipment he used in courses he taught to government people, and - from what the writer gathered - acted as despicable anti-American clods that should be tried for treason and as terrorists against Americans on American soil.  Come to think of it, what a bunch of dirty rotten filthy slime S.W.A.T. teams have been molded into, whether federal or state or local.  It is so bad that the people on S.W.A.T. forced entry teams and other law enforcers need only to look in the mirror to find vile armed and dangerous terrorists and other criminals against America and Americans.

Well, now Mr. McCormick knows even though he was in government work in relief and other fields for, I believe he said, 30 years.  He was like the indoctrinated of the indoctrinated until - in his words - he was treated so shabbily and personally exposed to the police state America has become.  In fact, he is still so indoctrinated that he still believes New York cops have integrity and honor and would not violate the rights of the people.

(Apparently he missed the brutality of the New York cops during the last Republican Convention and during other protests by the people, such as cops surrounding protestors, clubbing protestors, shooting them with pepper spray, backing horses into them, breaking their arms, dragging them about like so much trash, putting up barricades, or cops ordering what banners people can hold up or where they can protest.)

Is the same what it will take you fool Americans that still believe the official account and support the terrorism, murder, and property destruction (land and water for all time because of DU weaponry) spree by the US Military in Afghanistan and Iraq, along with supporting the Zionist State of Israel attacks on innocent people in Palestine and Lebanon?

[SJFedor]

Major Mike McCormack - Medic; specialist in collapsed infrastructure rescue and hazardous materials. Major Mike McCormick, at the time holding the rank of Captain with the U.S. Air Force Auxiliary Patrol, arrived at Ground Zero about three hours after both towers had collapsed. He worked throughout the first six days of the rescue effort, until it changed from search and recovery to recovery only. While engaged in this work, he found the World Trade Center towers' flag, which was later displayed at the Olympics. Major McCormick now suffers from respiratory illness and gastro-esophageal reflux disease. He was awarded a Congressional Certificate, a thank you letter from the President, and a commendation from Governor Pataki. He was denied coverage by the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund because it asserted that he had not proved that he was there.

Oh god no, not GERD! That's about as life threatening as a teddy bear holding a slingshot. Just hurts like hell, that's all. I'm surprised he didn't complain about the blisters on his feet from his "work".

[DNall]

I trust NPR about as much as having that teddy bear w/ slingshot watching my back, so oh well. Pass it to the correct investigative parties with your reasons why they should pursue it for integrity, legal (criminal/civil), & CAP reputation issues, then let it go away from the public view... seems like a theme here today.

[Major Carrales]

There is just so much material...

Major Mike McCormack - Medic; specialist in collapsed infrastructure rescue and hazardous materials. Major Mike McCormick, at the time holding the rank of Captain with the U.S. Air Force Auxiliary Patrol, arrived at Ground Zero about three hours after both towers had collapsed.

U.S. Air Force Auxiliary Patrol?

Now there's one for those nametapes everyone is always discussing.  U.S.A.F.A.P?  Curious...?    That is the sort of thing that calls all this into question.  Also, the name spelled differently each time is a bit of a clue to the nature of thsi sort of journalism.  I expect us here on an informal FORUM typing at ungodly hours to skip keys and the like...but for some one to be posting things like this smacks of "shadow-journalism," for lack of a better term to describe the false being reported as true.

Question: Did we ahve ground teams at ground zero?  It was my impression that CAP Avaition resources were deployed exclusively? 

[JohnKachenmeister]

Joe:

Having dealt with the idiots who pass for journalists, anything is possible.

I cancelled a meeting once when I was a squadron commander, and called the radio stations for the PSA to make sure everybody got the word.  One station had this announcement:

"And another weather related closing, the 289th Squadron of the Civil War Patrol will not be meeting today."

It happened to be the rock and roll station most of the cadets listened to, so the next meeting I was greeted with a formation of cadets in CAP uniforms, but wearing blue-and-gray kepis and holding toy Civil War muskets.  They got together on the internet and went out and bought "Civil War PlaySets" to pull my chain.

[darn] smartass cadets!

[Major Carrales]

Joe:

Having dealt with the idiots who pass for journalists, anything is possible.

I cancelled a meeting once when I was a squadron commander, and called the radio stations for the PSA to make sure everybody got the word.  One station had this announcement:

"And another weather related closing, the 289th Squadron of the Civil War Patrol will not be meeting today."

It happened to be the rock and roll station most of the cadets listened to, so the next meeting I was greeted with a formation of cadets in CAP uniforms, but wearing blue-and-gray kepis and holding toy Civil War muskets.  They got together on the internet and went out and bought "Civil War PlaySets" to pull my chain.

[darn] smartass cadets!

Love those cadets, they are many time the most clever of us all.  Civil War Patrol...now, if you had stuck to AM where the intellectuals and Slasa music  stations they might have said "Civilian Air Patrol" or "Silver Air Patrol." 

[Psicorp]

Joe:
Having dealt with the idiots who pass for journalists, anything is possible.
I cancelled a meeting once when I was a squadron commander, and called the radio stations for the PSA to make sure everybody got the word.  One station had this announcement:
"And another weather related closing, the 289th Squadron of the Civil War Patrol will not be meeting today."
It happened to be the rock and roll station most of the cadets listened to, so the next meeting I was greeted with a formation of cadets in CAP uniforms, but wearing blue-and-gray kepis and holding toy Civil War muskets.  They got together on the internet and went out and bought "Civil War PlaySets" to pull my chain.

[darn] smartass cadets!

Love it!!  How can you even be remotely upset at Cadets when they do something like that? 

[JohnKachenmeister]

Only the most fanatical Uniform Nazi would be upset about that.  I only wished I had a camera. 

My cadets had a practice (Once their leadership got its act together) of meeting for breakfast in a greasy spoon a block or two from our meeting location.  They all arrived at the meeting together then.  I would call their breakfast meeting the "Sedition Session" because I would accuse them of plotting a mutiny against the officers.

My favorite was the time some boob asked them who they were, since some were like 13 years old.  My C/1Lt cadet commander told him that they were Air Force people.  He then pointed out the Ohio Wing patch, which is a Wright Flyer with the number "51" above it.  "We just came from an assignment is Area 51," he told him.

The boob wouldn't quit.  "No way... they don't let little kids in the Air Force!"

So (The set-up complete) the CC lays it on him:  "Little kids?  Mister I'm 42 years old!  Most of my troops are in their 20's and 30's!  We were exposed to a chemical there that reverses the aging process!  That's why they pulled us out of there!  Another two weeks there we would have been back in diapers!"

The cadets were still laughing at the formation.

[carnold1836]

Off Original Topic

The teenager's mind is someplace I hate to delve into, having a teenage son is very interesting. I remember being like with some things but other times he seems way out there in left field picking posies. They are very creative and if left to their on devices I dare say could really do great things as long as a frame work is set for them, that is where we come in. We need to be there to help guide those imaginations and reign them in as necessary.

Sorry for the digression from the original post.

[JohnKachenmeister]

Off Original Topic

The teenager's mind is someplace I hate to delve into, having a teenage son is very interesting. I remember being like with some things but other times he seems way out there in left field picking posies. They are very creative and if left to their on devices I dare say could really do great things as long as a frame work is set for them, that is where we come in. We need to be there to help guide those imaginations and reign them in as necessary.

Sorry for the digression from the original post.

We done DI-gressed, Chris.

We pretty well beat the original post to death anyway.  Beat it like a hijacker over Pennsylvania, we did!

[RiverAux]

9/11 responders were in the news today seeking additional funding for medical problems.  Hopefully the fellow who inspired this thread wasn't in the coverage.  I was just curious if any of our New York/New Jersey affiliates found out anything about this person's CAP status?

[afgeo4]

I've passed it up the chain in NYC, but no word yet.

[SAR-EMT1]

Bump ... this guy been investigated yet?

[SJFedor]

Hopefully hung and shot.

[JC004]

Hopefully hung and shot.

*hanged