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 on: November 12, 2018, 04:58:32 PM 
Started by SCoontsFan - Last post by Slim
This site has methods we employ to deal with a gambit of different situations. In the thread that I locked, the poster made it clear that the rules do not apply to him and that he will circumvent any ban placed on him. That, folks, will get you immediately and permanently banned. He was likely going to be banned also for stating that he was going to actively use the chain of command to ruin the CAP membership of anyone on here that attacked him. Besides the irony of his statement, that behavior will not be tolerated here. Feel free to direct any further questions here and I will be glad to address them openly. But if this thread devolves into personal attacks or inappropriate comments I will not hesitate to lock it.

Not questioning methods or anything, but...

In one post, he's done all of the above, plus admitting to having multiple user accounts (which is, IIRC, a violation), as well as admitting to having knowledge and skills to further subvert any blocks/bans administered, and at least one willful subversion of the dirty word filter.

So, why is he still here?

 on: November 12, 2018, 04:44:34 PM 
Started by supertigerCH - Last post by TheSkyHornet
I have always disliked addressing new senior members as Senior Member

So call them by their name.

"Senior Member Jones"

That's the appropriate address. --- See CAPP 151, page 16

 on: November 12, 2018, 04:42:41 PM 
Started by Eclipse - Last post by TheSkyHornet
I already saw last night a post on social media where someone said "I wish CAP would adopt the greens; they're so classy."

I hesitated to reply with "If you want to wear them so bad, you should have enlisted."

I have enough of a problem with constant uniform changes. I have an even greater issue when non-military members begin to insert themselves into discussions on military uniforms and how they wish they got to wear them, too.

Sorry for the soap box here. This is a real peeve.

 on: November 12, 2018, 04:39:15 PM 
Started by SCoontsFan - Last post by TheSkyHornet
Can we please exercise a caution when using terms like "bullying" and "hazing."

Hazing is any conduct whereby someone causes another person to suffer or to be exposed to any activity that is cruel, abusive, humiliating, oppressive, demeaning, or harmful.  Questions of hazing often pertain to the intensity level of military-style training in Cadet Programs. Training intensity is evaluated in context. For example, a training intensity that is too stern and demanding for a unit meeting may be appropriate at an encampment.

For the purposes of the CPP (Cadet Protection Program), CAP considers bullying to be a form of misconduct sometimes exhibited by adolescents that falls short of abuse by not causing serious harm under the definition above.

Federal Definition. Borrowing from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ StopBullying.gov program, CAP defines bullying as “Unwanted, aggressive behavior among cadets that involves a real or perceived power imbalance. The behavior is repeated, or has the potential to be repeated, over time. Bullying includes making threats, spreading rumors, and attacking someone physically or verbally.”

Apply the same logic to the treatment of adults in replacement of "cadets"

 on: November 12, 2018, 04:35:36 PM 
Started by Eclipse - Last post by Eclipse
Start the clock and take pool reservations on the Air Force service dress.

My guess is the USAF implements a new service dress design with a first-wear of FY20
and a sundown at the same time as the ABU in 2021. Which would then mean that
CAP isn't wearing anything the USAF is, offering additional opportunities to fix the multiform.

The new uniform, which officials said would be “cost-neutral” to enlisted soldiers and would not come at an
added cost to taxpayers, is expected to be fielded to soldiers reporting to their first units beginning in summer 2020.
All soldiers will be required to have the uniform for wear eight years after that.


"The Army was able to straighten out its congressionally mandated notification requirements in time to announce on
Sunday, Veterans Day, that the much anticipated “Army Greens” will indeed be your next service uniform.

Formerly known as the “pinks and greens,” the World War II-era officers uniform could go Army-wide as soon as 2020,
according to a release that was posted Sunday to the Army’s website but was not shared through any of its social media channels.

“The current Army Blues Uniform will return to being a formal dress uniform, while the Army Greens will become the everyday
business-wear uniform for all soldiers,” the release said.

The new uniform will be “cost-neutral,” according to the Army, though details of the budgeting plan were not immediately available.

Sergeant Major of the Army Dan Dailey told Army Times in September that while higher quality materials translated to a dollar-for-dollar more expensive uniform, the fielding plan would negate some of those extra costs in the aggregate."

FWIW I like the crush caps...

Prototypes from earlier in the year.

 on: November 12, 2018, 04:30:35 PM 
Started by francisderosa16 - Last post by TheSkyHornet
Guys, you're using terms that cadets likely won't understand, let alone many 'civilians.'

"Civil Service" does not mean "volunteer." Civil servants are federal employees. The U.S. Post Office is an example, or a National Park Service Ranger ("Smokey, the Bear").

CAP is its own organization; a non-profit corporation. We may provide a service in contribution to the federal government, but we do not serve under the federal government; we don't report up to Congress or the President.

 on: November 12, 2018, 04:29:35 PM 
Started by supertigerCH - Last post by CAPLTC
I think Senior Member works just fine.

 on: November 12, 2018, 03:42:18 PM 
Started by supertigerCH - Last post by Gunsotsu
I have always disliked addressing new senior members as Senior Member

So call them by their name.

 on: November 12, 2018, 03:41:23 PM 
Started by supertigerCH - Last post by hamburgee
I remember "Officer Candidate" being tossed around in a previous post like this one. However, Senior Member works just fine as stated before... It's been used for years with minimal confusion. I view it as, while all officers are senior members, most have a title: Lieutenant, Captain, et cetera... However, should you not have a title, you're referred to simply as "Senior Member." Just my two cents though.

Additionally: Mr./Ms./Mrs. works fine as well.

 on: November 12, 2018, 03:15:40 PM 
Started by supertigerCH - Last post by hfriday
If I’m not mistaken, “airman” is also a catch-all for Air Force personnel, as “soldier” is in the Army, and “Marine” in the USMC. By that logic, “airman” is actually a less cumbersome cognate to our “senior member” terminology anyhow as the USAF Auxiliary. It would be, in my opinion, more comprehensible to outsiders, which is the most compelling issue with SM that I have seen on this thread.

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