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 21 
 on: May 25, 2018, 02:53:34 PM 
Started by etodd - Last post by NIN
US News: "Civil Air Patrol Doing Great Mission In Hawaii"

CAP-Talk:
"They didn't say in that news piece that the scanners were AP qualified. I bet nobody is qualified."
"Why did I bother to get AP if any old scanner can fly?"
"See, this is why we need a nationwide standard."
"I have no information whatsoever, but I'm good at making assumptions. No insurance coverage!"
"I'd do it, even though I'm not qualified, send me to Hawaii."
"Bring the right uniform!"
"Nobody should be wearing a uniform anyway."
"I'm self deploying to Hawaii for some of that sweet, sweet flying, what uniform should I bring?"
"I'm an AP, and I prefer this unifrom"
"Nobody wears that uniform in a plane! Are you crazy?"

Customer: "Hey, thanks Hawaii CAP, these photos are great, they really help out."


 22 
 on: May 25, 2018, 02:42:13 PM 
Started by TheSkyHornet - Last post by THRAWN
What impact does this have on CAP?

About as much as it does for the Air Force: none.

 23 
 on: May 25, 2018, 01:56:02 PM 
Started by TheSkyHornet - Last post by MSG Mac
What impact does this have on CAP?

 24 
 on: May 25, 2018, 12:55:07 PM 
Started by CAPLTC - Last post by Turtle1
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Men-s-Interceptor-Force-Boot/55333429 We recommend our cadets go to Walmart and purchase these boots. The price is right and the break-in period is minimal. The boots hold up well and do come in the smaller sizes.

 25 
 on: May 25, 2018, 12:37:27 PM 
Started by etodd - Last post by etodd

What's the point in launching a crew and investing two or more hours in machine time if the product captured by the camera is coarse, low resolution, and worse, not acceptable to our customer? 


Agree ... so should an aerial photography mission for a customer be "required by regs" to have an actual AP on-board performing the photography? With an obvious exception made for emergency situations where an AP wasn't available?

Or maybe thats an Incident Commander decision during an event whether to require APs or not?

I'm a professional aerial photographer by trade, have much better gear than supplied by CAP,  and learned nothing new in the AP training, but did it anyway because I thought it was "required". I could have saved myself the time and trouble, if I had only known.  ;D

 26 
 on: May 25, 2018, 12:01:24 PM 
Started by etodd - Last post by Live2Learn
Worked well for 5 decades. Why make the wheel more round?

I don't think our "5 decades" of past experience with aerial photograpy "worked well", it just got by (mostly).  Personal cameras may (or may NOT) capture 'good' images.  What's the point in launching a crew and investing two or more hours in machine time if the product captured by the camera is coarse, low resolution, and worse, not acceptable to our customer?  I've flown more than one sortie where the available 'personal camera' wasn't up to the task. 

Good photo equipment is just one thing.  Good aerial photography may require skills other than 'point and shoot'.   While 'point and shoot' level skills may get acceptable images, and sometimes even 'great' images, I've noticed a lot of blurry and poorly framed shots.  IMHO, investing crew and machine time in a one-time-only mission means we need high quality images that are effectively composed and framed - every time.  I think AP training can be helpful for most of us.

 27 
 on: May 25, 2018, 10:57:13 AM 
Started by etodd - Last post by etodd
As an AP Evaluator, I have someone in my Squadron asking about starting to work on the AP SQTR sheet, so that he can sign up for AP missions. I thought it was necessary. But scheduling has been an issue lately. I'll let him know he doesn't "have" to be an AP to be eligible for those missions. He will be happy.

 28 
 on: May 25, 2018, 09:11:33 AM 
Started by CAPLTC - Last post by GroundHawg
If you want to do a larger order, I can have them drop shipped to you at wholesale cost.

 29 
 on: May 25, 2018, 08:51:17 AM 
Started by etodd - Last post by OldGuy
Needs a committee to determine what regulations need to be updated and how the ORM process can be "streamlined" (that means made more time consuming and confusing I think?) to prevent missions, no?

 30 
 on: May 25, 2018, 08:47:00 AM 
Started by OldGuy - Last post by OldGuy
http://www.theintelligencer.net/news/community/2018/05/civil-air-patrol-views-historic-aviation-art-at-wheeling-ohio-county-airport/

A piece of Civil Air Patrol history made its way into Ohio County and received a warm welcome from members of the Wheeling Composite Squadron of the West Virginia Wing of the Civil Air Patrol and its auxiliary.

A commemorative painting of a CAP Cessna 182 being intercepted by an Air Force F-16 arrived Tuesday at the Wheeling-Ohio County Airport via a CAP wing van relay. Titled “Total Force Partners,” the original painting was the work of noted aviation artist and CAP cadet Rick Broome. It was commissioned for CAP’s 75th anniversary in 2016 and was to be presented to then-Secretary of the Air Force Deborah James and Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David Goldfein during the Air Force Air Space & Cyber Conference at the National Harbor in Maryland.

However, the original painting was damaged during transport to the conference. In the interim, a print of the painting was made and placed on display at the Pentagon.

The replacement painting began its journey this week in Colorado Springs and has been making its way, via a van escort by CAP members, across the country to its final destination in Washington, D.C. It arrived at the Wheeling-Ohio County Airport shortly before a thunderstorm struck the area Tuesday evening.

Col. Paul McCroskey II, CAP West Virginia wing commander, along with cadets and senior members of the CAP and its auxiliary, were on hand to greet the escort.

“We are very excited to have the opportunity to have the painting come to Wheeling,” said McCroskey. “We were able to actually touch a piece of our history.”

McCroskey said the painting depicts the relationship between the volunteer CAP members and the U.S. Air Force. He said the painting is special because it validates the CAP’s work.

CAP is a volunteer force of cadets and adult members whose mission includes search and rescue; aerospace education; and leadership training for male and female cadets from age 12 to 18. The squadron maintains a plane at the Wheeling airport where the CAP meets at 7 p.m. Tuesdays. Headquartered at the Wheeling-Ohio County Airport, the local CAP has been conducting various training exercises including recent ground search techniques. Many senior members are military veterans.

During Tuesday’s stop in Wheeling, the actual painting remained safeguarded in the van. CAP members posed for pictures with a print of the painting.

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