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 on: Yesterday at 12:47:42 PM 
Started by Second_In_Command - Last post by NEBoom
Gently off topic, but when did "squad leader" become "element leader"?

Don't think the AF has ever had squad leaders.  And they've been element leaders as long as I remember.... going back to at least 92.

During my AF BMT back in 1975, we had squads, and the leaders wore little red badges identifying them as "Squad Leaders."  So the AF had them at least that long.

Jack

Yet those "Squad Leaders" were referred to as "Element Leaders" in the Drill and Ceremonies manual which was written right there at Lackland by the BMT Training folks.

And I wore one of those Squad Leader badges back when I went through Basic back in Sept/Oct 1974.


I went through AF BMT in 1984, and it was still "squad leader" then (no red badges though).  So it looks like sometime between '84 and '92 they switched, which isn't surprising since a lot was changing in the AF during that time. 

I still catch/correct myself all the time on this.  Old habits and all...

 12 
 on: Yesterday at 12:38:49 PM 
Started by Mordecai - Last post by PHall
Also even if there was a military aircraft with empty seats going to where you're going, the seats may not be available to anyone because the crew is conducting training where passengers are not allowed. Stuff like touch and go landings....

 13 
 on: Yesterday at 12:33:51 PM 
Started by The_CAP_Life_Chose_Me - Last post by PHall
He may be talking about the Hawk Mountain Ranger School which does have a Medical Course.
But that's NOT an Encampment.

 14 
 on: Yesterday at 12:29:50 PM 
Started by Second_In_Command - Last post by PHall
Gently off topic, but when did "squad leader" become "element leader"?

Don't think the AF has ever had squad leaders.  And they've been element leaders as long as I remember.... going back to at least 92.

During my AF BMT back in 1975, we had squads, and the leaders wore little red badges identifying them as "Squad Leaders."  So the AF had them at least that long.

Jack

Yet those "Squad Leaders" were referred to as "Element Leaders" in the Drill and Ceremonies manual which was written right there at Lackland by the BMT Training folks.

And I wore one of those Squad Leader badges back when I went through Basic back in Sept/Oct 1974.

 15 
 on: Yesterday at 10:57:24 AM 
Started by NIN - Last post by NIN
BTW, its on ebay now: https://www.ebay.com/itm/232677161874

:)

 16 
 on: Yesterday at 10:01:15 AM 
Started by Daniel - Last post by τε
It would seem this topic is no longer relevant and no longer needs to be tacked.




 17 
 on: Yesterday at 09:28:29 AM 
Started by Second_In_Command - Last post by ColonelJack
Gently off topic, but when did "squad leader" become "element leader"?

Don't think the AF has ever had squad leaders.  And they've been element leaders as long as I remember.... going back to at least 92.

During my AF BMT back in 1975, we had squads, and the leaders wore little red badges identifying them as "Squad Leaders."  So the AF had them at least that long.

Jack

 18 
 on: Yesterday at 08:29:30 AM 
Started by Second_In_Command - Last post by abdsp51
Armyism that crept in and not corrected because no one bothered to read manuals.

 19 
 on: Yesterday at 06:43:58 AM 
Started by Second_In_Command - Last post by J2H
We had Fireteam leaders and Squad Leaders downrange. But that was only in a contingency environment.  Element leader was not an actual job, it was simply the first guy or gal in the element in formation.

 20 
 on: Yesterday at 02:39:18 AM 
Started by HighFlyer - Last post by Fester
I let NHQ about the fact that the new PT program doesn't show up on the Cadet Tracking Report. They have put in a trouble ticket on it and we can hope it will show up in the near future.

Thanks for the info

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