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General Discussion => Membership => Topic started by: AlphaSigOU on January 13, 2006, 04:42:17 PM

Title: Validating special appointment promotions?
Post by: AlphaSigOU on January 13, 2006, 04:42:17 PM
Just got back into CAP after a 17-year break in membership. According to the regs, being a former Earhart cadet and senior member 1st Lt, I should be able to have my former grade reinstated, so long as current training requirements are met. Already took Level I and CPPT to comply, as well as supplying a copy of my Earhart award certificate. Generally, once the paperwork (Form 2) is approved, how long does it take before National HQ validates the promotion?
Title: Re: Validating special appointment promotions?
Post by: Pace on January 13, 2006, 04:58:40 PM
1st Lt also requires a specialty track technician rating.  Check the CAP Pamphlet 200-225 series for specific specialty tracks.
Title: Re: Validating special appointment promotions?
Post by: AlphaSigOU on January 13, 2006, 05:14:06 PM
Quote from: dcpacemaker on January 13, 2006, 04:58:40 PM
1st Lt also requires a specialty track technician rating.  Check the CAP Pamphlet 200-225 series for specific specialty tracks.

Am already enrolled in Historian and Cadet Programs, but don't yet have the minimum time to get the tech rating in either. Though the reg (CAPR 35-5) only mentions this for former member grade reinstatements.
Title: Re: Validating special appointment promotions?
Post by: Eclipse on January 13, 2006, 06:38:34 PM
Once it gets to NHQ, it is generally done in a few days, I have never seen proper paperwork take more than a week...

But, a special appointment must be approved by the wing commander, did you go that route?  In IL that would add a considerable amount of lead time, assuming it didn't fall into the "event horizon".

Second, NHQ will not call and tell you if anything is wrong, they will sit on it and return it via USPS with a rejection letter. I have seen that take three weeks or more, and many times for a simple type which could have been fixed over the phone.
Title: Re: Validating special appointment promotions?
Post by: MIKE on January 13, 2006, 06:44:31 PM
If you are using your Earhart to get 1st Lt... You shouldn't need anything but CPPT and Level 1... You'll just need to complete the other stuff to promote to Capt.

Title: Re: Validating special appointment promotions?
Post by: BillB on January 13, 2006, 07:01:39 PM
Actually, getting your previous 1Lt rank back is not a spacial appoinment. The Squadron Commander is the approval authority for 1Lt, so all that is required is his signature on the form 2 and show date CPPT was completed and Earhart #. As a form,er cadet you were exempt from level 1. Earhart promotions to 1Lt are automatic provided the Squadron Commander approves. Group and Wing are not approval authority, so it need not be sent to them, but direct to National.
Title: Re: Validating special appointment promotions?
Post by: MIKE on January 13, 2006, 07:06:44 PM
Since there was a break in service greater than two years... Gotta take level 1.

The exemption only applies if you have a break in service less than two years.
Title: Re: Validating special appointment promotions?
Post by: SarDragon on January 13, 2006, 07:32:42 PM
The reinstatement probably needs to go through wing. That has been my experience in the past with my own reinstatement, but it may vary by wing. Just make sure any substantiating documentation is attached.
Title: Re: Validating special appointment promotions?
Post by: Eclipse on January 13, 2006, 07:52:15 PM
Unit CC's and Group Commanders are only the approving authority for "clean"
promotions (i.e. TIG, specialty done, etc).

Special appointments (i.e. this case, CFI's, chaplains, former military grade, etc.) as well as reinstatement of former grade, require Wng approval.
Title: Re: Validating special appointment promotions?
Post by: AlphaSigOU on January 24, 2006, 03:12:36 AM
Update...

My paperwork for promotion to 1st Lt was approved and went up to NHQ via e-mail today... now let's see how long it takes for them to validate.  :D

ETA: It's in the system now! :)
Title: Re: Validating special appointment promotions?
Post by: BlueLakes1 on January 24, 2006, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on January 13, 2006, 07:52:15 PM
Unit CC's and Group Commanders are only the approving authority for "clean"
promotions (i.e. TIG, specialty done, etc).

Special appointments (i.e. this case, CFI's, chaplains, former military grade, etc.) as well as reinstatement of former grade, require Wng approval.

Not so. Reference CAPR 35-5, Section A, 5 g. It provides that Unit commanders are the promoting authority for all 2nd and 1st Lt. promotions, except for professional appointments. Wing has the approval for professional appointments, which are covered under section E and include Chaplain/MLOs, Financial Professionals, Legal and Medical/Health Service Officers, and Aerospace Ed officers.

Special appointments are covered in section C, that includes commander appointments, former cadets, military grade appointments, and a few other things. Grade appointments for pilots and other mission related skills are covered in Section D. 2d and 1st Lts. appointed under these 2 sections do not require further approval from Wing.
Title: Re: Validating special appointment promotions?
Post by: Eclipse on January 24, 2006, 11:04:21 PM
Unless they do by local Wing policy.
Title: Re: Validating special appointment promotions?
Post by: SarDragon on January 25, 2006, 02:02:56 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on January 24, 2006, 11:04:21 PM
Unless they do by local Wing policy.
See this thread (http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=589.0;topicseen), first quote.