On this site: http://www.organicconsumers.org/2006/article_2712.cfm (http://www.organicconsumers.org/2006/article_2712.cfm) there is a story about a public meeting September 9th in New York where first responders involved in 9/11 spoke about a coverup by the EPA and other government agencies in regards to health risks to responders to the attack.
Among them was a person identified as Maj. Mike McCormick, a CAP pilot. The story says:
QuoteMajor Mike McCormick, volunteer and civil air patrol pilot, begins by addressing the assembled 9/11 Truth activists, "As I look out in the audience I do not see audience participants, but I see extended members ofthe 9/11 family." McCormick notes of 9/11 first responders, "There are hundreds and thousands of people that are now sick." and he declares, "The majority of us believe in a higher authority, of the goodness of man. Unfortunately, the people that are in office are scoundrels and they look at God as gold, oil, and drugs." McCormick adds, "There is actually $1 billion dollars in a fund for 9/11 responders.. Mayor Bloomberg has spent $40 million of that $1 billion dollars denying claims."
McCormick says further, "A month ago, I had gotten a report that was deemed "SECRET". It was the report from the Executive Office legal department to Christy Todd Whitman, advising her to downplay the severity of GroundZero...Now, Christy Todd Whitman, I'm happy to say, is going to have her day of reckoning... It is time for good Americans to take back this country...CIA, NSA,, you name the acronym, I would say a good 80% of allagencies involved [in 9/11] are Manchurian candidates. These are the people sworn to protect the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and the only thing Homeland Security does is decimate the United States Constitution...The Homeland Security Department, the only thing that they don't take care of, is the country's patriots.... Every single responder, police, fire, EMS, every volunteer, they are the Minutemen..The only thing these responders didn't have is a country that gave a [mess]."
McCormick quotes Edmund Burke: "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to stand by idly and do nothing. Your participation here, today, shows me they will not get away with it...[Bush] cons people into joining the military. ...he just changes the name of the mission from Enduring Freedom to Enduring Bull[mess], or whatever it is..." Of Christy Todd Whitman, McCormick observes, "It is sure as hell she's going to be convicted of crimes against humanity, treason, just to name a few. However, if Bush is behind the catbird seat, the only thing he's going to do is pardon her. That can't happen. We cannot let it happen."
You can listen to the original radio program aired Sept. 20, 2006, from which the article was drawn at http://www.kpfa.org/archives/index.php?arch=16240 (http://www.kpfa.org/archives/index.php?arch=16240)
Go to 29 minutes into the program to hear from McCormick.
He said that he first heard about the attack by a call from the 106th Air Guard Rescue Unit and that he went to their hq soon after. He then said he went to ground zero 3 hours after the attack. Has very harsh words for President Bush, Mayor Bloomberg, and the Dept. of Homeland Security. Claims he dug up the 9/11 flag and received quite a lot of praise soon after the attack. Said he was an Incident Commander on last 4 aircrashes in NY. Nowhere in his aired comments did he specifically mention CAP. but did say he was an incident commander on 4 recent aircrashes, which is why the Guard had called him.
Now, I don't know whether he has been identifying himself as a CAP member responding to 9/11 or whether he responded as an individual and the media decided to identify him as a CAP member on their own, but either way I don't think it is good for CAP.
Can anyone confirm he is a CAP member or know anything about this?
No Mike McCormick listed currently, but two Michaels. One is a 2Lt located in WV the other is a Major from WA. Neither are currently listed as a pilot nor IC's.
Who knows, he may have moved, lost qualifications or dropped membership.
No, but that's a good place for NHQ PA to step up & disavale knowledge of this person. That's jacked up. The number of CAP presonnel directly involved in 9/11 response is very small & identifiable. I versy seriously doubt such a person would make such public comments. If they are not legit, I would expect CAP to go to the press & make a big deal about how this is an imposter. If they are by the extreme long shot legit, then I'd expect CAP to put out a statement at very least saying they don't speak for us, and to speak with that person directly to figure out what the hell is wrong with them.
YAWN.
Consider the source: Take a look at the website homepage, says it all: Left Wing vegan loony tune Art Bell fans. The whole 9/11/01 environmental conspiracy? What conspiracy?
Like anyone working at ground zero didn't know whatever they were breathing wasn't going to take years off their lives. Ash, jet fuel, asbestos, human remains. Who needs Christy Whitman to tell them that?
Sheesh. This board needs some real topics.
Hmm, you don't think someone being identified by name and rank as a CAP member being involved in this whole conspiracy theory (and making some very disrespectful remarks while doing so) isn't worth finding out a little more about?
Now, I don't care about the guy speaking out. Hes an American and has every right to do so no matter the issue. However, as a CAP member I'm not sure CAP wants to be associated with his views.
And, I think CAP will want to know if he was wearing his uniform at this event too. I would certainly hope he had the good sense not too, and I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt about being identified as a CAP member, but it is probably something national should look into.
As someone who worked at Ground Zero (courtesy of 514th AMW, USAFR) and currently a member of the NYC Group Staff (although I was not with CAP at the time), I can say that there is no person by such name. Furthermore, no known CAP officers were assigned to ground duty at Ground Zero following the attack. There were a few mission bases and shelters manned, but no mission was issued for the WTC site itself until the 12th of September when we were tasked to do a flyover by the governor's office. I will research this with the NYC Group and LI Group commanders as well as the commander of the Gabreski Squadron which is based at 106th RQW to see who this person may have been and initiate an investigation with the right people.
These comments are a travesty and in no way reflect the views of the majority of people who worked at the site. We all knew it couldn't be 100% safe and we worked anyway because that's what needed to be done for the victims, their families, the city, and the nation.
George:
Have you contacted NHQ about this guy? I think there is some evidence that he is impersonating a CAP officer, which may be a violation of Federal law. Since it looks like he's trying to get a piece of the 9-11 money under false pretenses, there MAY be an issue of fraud.
I think somebody down at Soggy Bottom AFB, AL needs to look at this. Maybe you could call the Fraud Hotline, 1-800-I-SNITCH, or whatever it is.
If he is not CAP, he must also be faking a lot of the rest of his story. If he hadn't been involved in CAP, why would the Air NG call him in the first place? Seems it would be pretty easy to find out if someone were in CAP in 2001, especially a pilot and IC.
Even if he was CAP, I sincerely doubt he went to ground zero as part of a CAP mission on the first day. If he went, it was probably on his own. Keep in mind, his comments, including the speech played by the radio station, are not specific about this issue.
Actually, it isn't illegal to say you're CAP, it is illegal to wear the uniform:
QuoteTITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 33 > § 702
§ 702. Uniform of armed forces and Public Health Service
Whoever, in any place within the jurisdiction of the United States or in the Canal Zone, without authority, wears the uniform or a distinctive part thereof or anything similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of any of the armed forces of the United States, Public Health Service or any auxiliary of such, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.
River:
Try 18 USC 912.
Sorry, don't buy it.
The code you cited says:
QuoteTITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 43 > § 912
§ 912. Officer or employee of the United States
Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
So, for someone to be charged with pretending to be a CAP member, they would have to be pretending to do so under conditions when a CAP member can be considered an instrumantality of the US. Thanks to the 2000 federal law changes that only applies when we are on AFAMs. So, if someone pretends to be a CAP member on an AFAM you might be able to get them, but that would be a pretty rare circumstance.
And, now that I think about it, the code about wearing a CAP uniform might be sort of hard to enforce for the same reason. We're only the auxiliary of the AF on AFAMs. Someone could try to charge someone, but it might be hard to win now. It still applies to the CG Aux since they are always the CG Aux and there is no provision for wearing their uniform when they are not under CG control like there is for CAP.
I think that's what this guy did. he's claiming that, as a CAP member, that he was activated on 9-11 and responded to the scene. And in making this statement, he's trying to obtain funds earmarked for the treatment of rescue and recovery workers.
In any case, I'm glad some locals are looking into this as it certainly is a potential major s. storm.
Back in 2000, a man was charged with impersonating an Air Force Major and drawing weapons and vehicles from Andrews Air Force Base for the Summer Encampment in PA Wing. He got 6 months in federal prison plus one extra month for impersonating an auxiliary officer as he had no membership in CAP at the time and drew billets, mess and weapons under the impression that he was a CAP Major. This was huge in Pennsylvania and a huge embarrassment to the AF and the Army. This may be the basis if the other gentleman is to be charged. If I can find the articles I will post them. His name was Jeff Klotz. I will try google now.
Back in the 1960's a CAP officer went onto an Air Force base, changed his insignia in a bathroom, typed up fake tranfer orders and ended up impersonating an Air Force officer so well and so long that he was checked out on jets, and got a very favorable OER before he was discovered.
The story was written in the Saturday Evening Post, back in (I think) 1965.
I don't recall his name, but he said the only thing he was never able to do was get onto the finance system and get paid.
Quote from: mikeylikey on December 19, 2006, 04:52:24 AM
Back in 2000, a man was charged with impersonating an Air Force Major and drawing weapons and vehicles from Andrews Air Force Base for the Summer Encampment in PA Wing. He got 6 months in federal prison plus one extra month for impersonating an auxiliary officer as he had no membership in CAP at the time and drew billets, mess and weapons under the impression that he was a CAP Major. This was huge in Pennsylvania and a huge embarrassment to the AF and the Army. This may be the basis if the other gentleman is to be charged. If I can find the articles I will post them. His name was Jeff Klotz. I will try google now.
I believe it was actually Aberdeen Proving Grounds, not Andrews.
I heard rumors of this when I made the switch to the dark side, but since this occured only when I was a lowly noob cadet, I don't know much about it.
What's sad is, he did this for many, many years and no one questioned him, either from PA wing, or worse, the issuing service.
Is this really a serious issue?
Quote from: flyguy06 on December 19, 2006, 04:48:34 PM
Is this really a serious issue?
Only if you consider the integrity and credibility of CAP is serious. If someone is claiming to be a CAP officer or at the very least identified as an officer then anything they do or say reflects directly back on the entire organization. This is true from the highest ranking CAP General all the way down to the newset 12 yo cadet. I believe it should be investigated and if it is accurate that this individual is NOT a CAP member something needs to be put out by NHQ. If he is a member he needs to definetly be talked to and find out what he is attempting to achieve with this type of presentation.
He may be referring to my reply to the issue with the PAWG Major.
Anyway, pondering, is this really something NHQ PA needs to jump on? I'd be concerned if it was on something more then some raggedy website claiming "environmental conspiracy", like CNN, Fox, Oprah, Geraldo, even Jerry. This might be one of those moments when not saying anything will draw less attention then engaging the issue.
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on December 19, 2006, 03:12:27 PM
Back in the 1960's a CAP officer went onto an Air Force base, changed his insignia in a bathroom, typed up fake tranfer orders and ended up impersonating an Air Force officer so well and so long that he was checked out on jets, and got a very favorable OER before he was discovered.
You guys know the reason why we got the Maroon epaulets and such as well, right?
Quote from: A.Member on December 19, 2006, 06:40:31 PM
You guys know the reason why we got the Maroon epaulets and such as well, right?
All I have ever been able to discern is someone did something that was seen as wrong while wearing an AF style CAP uniform. Everyone seems to dance around the issue like it is forbidden to speak of it.
"Do not speak its name so as not to call upon its wrath!", or some such noise.
Now if it is forbidden by regulation or notice from the NB to speak of the situation then fine so be it. But if its not forbidden then I hope everyone can stop being childish and just let us newer members in on the story.
Quote from: carnold1836 on December 19, 2006, 07:30:03 PM
Quote from: A.Member on December 19, 2006, 06:40:31 PM
You guys know the reason why we got the Maroon epaulets and such as well, right?
All I have ever been able to discern is someone did something that was seen as wrong while wearing an AF style CAP uniform. Everyone seems to dance around the issue like it is forbidden to speak of it.
"Do not speak its name so as not to call upon its wrath!", or some such noise.
Now if it is forbidden by regulation or notice from the NB to speak of the situation then fine so be it. But if its not forbidden then I hope everyone can stop being childish and just let us newer members in on the story.
I don't think it's any big secret. The story, as the way it was told to me, is that one of the esteemed former National Commanders, Eugene Harwell, took it upon himself to wear 2-stars (Maj. Gen.) rather than the 1-star (Brig. Gen.) he was authorized. He may have also done away with the CAP designation on the epaulet. As if that weren't bad enough, while at some sort of conference or something, he actually demanded a salute from a high ranking
USAF officer - like a Col. or possibly a Brig. Gen. Needless to say, the AF was not amused - it was nearly the end of the organization and the start of maroon epaulets. This is why we'll never see blue ones again.
Quote from: SJFedor on December 19, 2006, 05:38:04 PM
He may be referring to my reply to the issue with the PAWG Major.
Anyway, pondering, is this really something NHQ PA needs to jump on? I'd be concerned if it was on something more then some raggedy website claiming "environmental conspiracy", like CNN, Fox, Oprah, Geraldo, even Jerry. This might be one of those moments when not saying anything will draw less attention then engaging the issue.
Granted. The best thing here is to deal with these things quietly. the investigation & subsequent prosecution should occur, but not plastered all up here or elsewhere for the world to see.
If on quick review NHQ finds this to be completely false (say the guy was never a CAP member) then they should issue a noice on the news section of the site simplly saying: "this guy is not now nor has he ever been a CAP member. He wa snot activated for CAP service during 9/11, and we never heard of him. Beyond that, CAP is unable to comment on ongoing internal or external investigations. The CAP IG is providing any available assistance to the FBI & AFOSI. Please refer questions to those agencies."
This isn't just the website. The story on the website was linked to a National Public Radio station program called "Guns and Butter" which is syndicated all across the country to various NPR stations. Most of the info I posted was gained from listening to the 15 minutes or so from this fellows speech that was part of an hour-long program on the topic.
Plus, this is the sort of thing that could very easily get significant national attention if a reporter for a major media outlet decided to pick up on it.
More on Major McCormick...some people don't have a clue about CAP and FEMA. I worry about the validity when agendistic thing like... "Major Mike McCormick on the Alex Jones program, exposing the American Gestapo!" come up on a google search. Sorry, send up a big red flag!!! Political Grandstanding...or a true victim?
http://digg.com/politics/9_11_Hero_harassed_by_feds_after_speaking_at_9_11_Illness_event (http://digg.com/politics/9_11_Hero_harassed_by_feds_after_speaking_at_9_11_Illness_event)
Quote*Podcast Link* Major Mike McCormick, the man who found the American flag in the rubble was raided by a federal SWAT team after speaking out at a 9-11 gathering this week. Listen to Thursday podcast, around the 3rd hour mark - no media coverage of this story yet. The Major spoke out about WTC illness and his belief 9-11 is an inside job.
http://canadianactionparty.ca/cgi/page.cgi?zine=show&aid=197&_id=64 (http://canadianactionparty.ca/cgi/page.cgi?zine=show&aid=197&_id=64)
QuoteMajor Mike McCormack - Medic; specialist in collapsed infrastructure rescue and hazardous materials. Major Mike McCormick, at the time holding the rank of Captain with the U.S. Air Force Auxiliary Patrol, arrived at Ground Zero about three hours after both towers had collapsed. He worked throughout the first six days of the rescue effort, until it changed from search and recovery to recovery only. While engaged in this work, he found the World Trade Center towers' flag, which was later displayed at the Olympics. Major McCormick now suffers from respiratory illness and gastro-esophageal reflux disease. He was awarded a Congressional Certificate, a thank you letter from the President, and a commendation from Governor Pataki. He was denied coverage by the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund because it asserted that he had not proved that he was there.
Updated on 2006-Oct-17 17:16
http://www.libertyforall.net/?p=128 (http://www.libertyforall.net/?p=128)
QuoteAddendum: The writer just finished listening to an interview with Major Mike McCormick (not certain of the spelling as it was an audio interview) of the FEMA Disaster Relief Command until his resignation after the below happened. He is one of the people that arrived at the towers just after they collapsed and worked day after day searching for survivors. He went public with the damage done to him, firemen, police, national guard people, and so on that worked to find survivors for days. During the recent memorial for 9-11, he was honored once again as a Ground Zero hero.
Sadly, he is dying from asbestos poisoning along with dozens upon dozens others that worked diligently to find survivors. One of the dying is David Miller, who at the time of this writing had three months to live. Mr. McCormick obtained the documents that told the truth about the dust created when the federal government imploded the two towers and brought them down just before he arrived, and then Building 7 later. He made the documents available plus the fact that there were many explosions as reported by firemen, police, and survivors of this heinous crime against America by the federal government and its controllers.
A day after his recognition he was subjected first to a few of what he still believes to be New York City’s finest - its law enforcers. The head guy got him to sign a form that it was okay for them to enter, as he “had nothing to hide.” Three minutes later from 12 to 15 federal Gestapo, black-garbed traitors to America, federal enforcers, forced their way in with automatic weapons and 9 mm handguns pointed at his head. If he breathed wrong, he would have had his head blown off.
Thus, his home was ram shacked and he was arrested because of a pistol he had, a fully legal pistol which he should have had 48 hours to get it back to Pennsylvania. He had told them about the pistol - they did not have to look for it but having the pistol became the “crime” they are attempting to prosecute him on. What a shabby land full of liars, thieves, and uniformed terrorists America has become.
Anyway, the black-garbed “like a Darth Vader convention for loser,” as described by Mr. McCormick, cussed at him constantly, questioned him about equipment he used in courses he taught to government people, and - from what the writer gathered - acted as despicable anti-American clods that should be tried for treason and as terrorists against Americans on American soil. Come to think of it, what a bunch of dirty rotten filthy slime S.W.A.T. teams have been molded into, whether federal or state or local. It is so bad that the people on S.W.A.T. forced entry teams and other law enforcers need only to look in the mirror to find vile armed and dangerous terrorists and other criminals against America and Americans.
Well, now Mr. McCormick knows even though he was in government work in relief and other fields for, I believe he said, 30 years. He was like the indoctrinated of the indoctrinated until - in his words - he was treated so shabbily and personally exposed to the police state America has become. In fact, he is still so indoctrinated that he still believes New York cops have integrity and honor and would not violate the rights of the people.
(Apparently he missed the brutality of the New York cops during the last Republican Convention and during other protests by the people, such as cops surrounding protestors, clubbing protestors, shooting them with pepper spray, backing horses into them, breaking their arms, dragging them about like so much trash, putting up barricades, or cops ordering what banners people can hold up or where they can protest.)
Is the same what it will take you fool Americans that still believe the official account and support the terrorism, murder, and property destruction (land and water for all time because of DU weaponry) spree by the US Military in Afghanistan and Iraq, along with supporting the Zionist State of Israel attacks on innocent people in Palestine and Lebanon?
Quote from: Major Carrales on December 20, 2006, 04:57:28 AM
QuoteMajor Mike McCormack - Medic; specialist in collapsed infrastructure rescue and hazardous materials. Major Mike McCormick, at the time holding the rank of Captain with the U.S. Air Force Auxiliary Patrol, arrived at Ground Zero about three hours after both towers had collapsed. He worked throughout the first six days of the rescue effort, until it changed from search and recovery to recovery only. While engaged in this work, he found the World Trade Center towers' flag, which was later displayed at the Olympics. Major McCormick now suffers from respiratory illness and gastro-esophageal reflux disease. He was awarded a Congressional Certificate, a thank you letter from the President, and a commendation from Governor Pataki. He was denied coverage by the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund because it asserted that he had not proved that he was there.
Oh god no, not GERD! That's about as life threatening as a teddy bear holding a slingshot. Just hurts like hell, that's all. I'm surprised he didn't complain about the blisters on his feet from his "work".
I trust NPR about as much as having that teddy bear w/ slingshot watching my back, so oh well. Pass it to the correct investigative parties with your reasons why they should pursue it for integrity, legal (criminal/civil), & CAP reputation issues, then let it go away from the public view... seems like a theme here today.
There is just so much material...
QuoteMajor Mike McCormack - Medic; specialist in collapsed infrastructure rescue and hazardous materials. Major Mike McCormick, at the time holding the rank of Captain with the U.S. Air Force Auxiliary Patrol, arrived at Ground Zero about three hours after both towers had collapsed.
U.S. Air Force Auxiliary Patrol?Now there's one for those nametapes everyone is always discussing. U.S.A.F.A.P? Curious...? ??? That is the sort of thing that calls all this into question. Also, the name spelled differently each time is a bit of a clue to the nature of thsi sort of journalism. I expect us here on an informal FORUM typing at ungodly hours to skip keys and the like...but for some one to be posting things like this smacks of "shadow-journalism," for lack of a better term to describe the false being reported as true.
Question: Did we ahve ground teams at ground zero? It was my impression that CAP Avaition resources were deployed exclusively?
Joe:
Having dealt with the idiots who pass for journalists, anything is possible.
I cancelled a meeting once when I was a squadron commander, and called the radio stations for the PSA to make sure everybody got the word. One station had this announcement:
"And another weather related closing, the 289th Squadron of the Civil War Patrol will not be meeting today."
It happened to be the rock and roll station most of the cadets listened to, so the next meeting I was greeted with a formation of cadets in CAP uniforms, but wearing blue-and-gray kepis and holding toy Civil War muskets. They got together on the internet and went out and bought "Civil War PlaySets" to pull my chain.
[darn] smartass cadets!
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on December 20, 2006, 03:30:53 PM
Joe:
Having dealt with the idiots who pass for journalists, anything is possible.
I cancelled a meeting once when I was a squadron commander, and called the radio stations for the PSA to make sure everybody got the word. One station had this announcement:
"And another weather related closing, the 289th Squadron of the Civil War Patrol will not be meeting today."
It happened to be the rock and roll station most of the cadets listened to, so the next meeting I was greeted with a formation of cadets in CAP uniforms, but wearing blue-and-gray kepis and holding toy Civil War muskets. They got together on the internet and went out and bought "Civil War PlaySets" to pull my chain.
[darn] smartass cadets!
Love those cadets, they are many time the most clever of us all. Civil War Patrol...now, if you had stuck to AM where the intellectuals and Slasa music stations they might have said "Civilian Air Patrol" or "Silver Air Patrol." ;D
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on December 20, 2006, 03:30:53 PM
Joe:
Having dealt with the idiots who pass for journalists, anything is possible.
I cancelled a meeting once when I was a squadron commander, and called the radio stations for the PSA to make sure everybody got the word. One station had this announcement:
"And another weather related closing, the 289th Squadron of the Civil War Patrol will not be meeting today."
It happened to be the rock and roll station most of the cadets listened to, so the next meeting I was greeted with a formation of cadets in CAP uniforms, but wearing blue-and-gray kepis and holding toy Civil War muskets. They got together on the internet and went out and bought "Civil War PlaySets" to pull my chain.
[darn] smartass cadets!
Love it!! How can you even be remotely upset at Cadets when they do something like that?
Only the most fanatical Uniform Nazi would be upset about that. I only wished I had a camera.
My cadets had a practice (Once their leadership got its act together) of meeting for breakfast in a greasy spoon a block or two from our meeting location. They all arrived at the meeting together then. I would call their breakfast meeting the "Sedition Session" because I would accuse them of plotting a mutiny against the officers.
My favorite was the time some boob asked them who they were, since some were like 13 years old. My C/1Lt cadet commander told him that they were Air Force people. He then pointed out the Ohio Wing patch, which is a Wright Flyer with the number "51" above it. "We just came from an assignment is Area 51," he told him.
The boob wouldn't quit. "No way... they don't let little kids in the Air Force!"
So (The set-up complete) the CC lays it on him: "Little kids? Mister I'm 42 years old! Most of my troops are in their 20's and 30's! We were exposed to a chemical there that reverses the aging process! That's why they pulled us out of there! Another two weeks there we would have been back in diapers!"
The cadets were still laughing at the formation.
Off Original Topic
The teenager's mind is someplace I hate to delve into, having a teenage son is very interesting. I remember being like with some things but other times he seems way out there in left field picking posies. They are very creative and if left to their on devices I dare say could really do great things as long as a frame work is set for them, that is where we come in. We need to be there to help guide those imaginations and reign them in as necessary.
Sorry for the digression from the original post.
Quote from: carnold1836 on December 20, 2006, 07:11:38 PM
Off Original Topic
The teenager's mind is someplace I hate to delve into, having a teenage son is very interesting. I remember being like with some things but other times he seems way out there in left field picking posies. They are very creative and if left to their on devices I dare say could really do great things as long as a frame work is set for them, that is where we come in. We need to be there to help guide those imaginations and reign them in as necessary.
Sorry for the digression from the original post.
We done DI-gressed, Chris.
We pretty well beat the original post to death anyway. Beat it like a hijacker over Pennsylvania, we did!
9/11 responders were in the news today seeking additional funding for medical problems. Hopefully the fellow who inspired this thread wasn't in the coverage. I was just curious if any of our New York/New Jersey affiliates found out anything about this person's CAP status?
I've passed it up the chain in NYC, but no word yet.
Bump ... this guy been investigated yet?
Hopefully hung and shot.