CAP Talk

Hello everybody i am new here and looking for super good pals i am so happy i found a great place for civil air patrol members to talk, could i get any tips please on how to be the best civil air patrol member i can be. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Quote from: vforvendetta on March 04, 2016, 10:40:45 PM
Hello everybody i am new here and looking for super good pals i am so happy i found a great place for civil air patrol members to talk, could i get any tips please on how to be the best civil air patrol member i can be. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Circumventing the ban filter will not make you friends, but harassing the mods and hacking around the ban will get a letter sent to your commander, Mr. Collier

Quote from: Pace on March 04, 2016, 11:26:33 PM
Circumventing the ban filter will not make you friends, but harassing the mods and hacking around the ban will get a letter sent to your commander, Mr. Collier

Well that got interesting pretty quickly Mr. Slimshady. 

Play nice, check the applicable Regulations, Manuals, or Pamphlets before asking a question that can be answered by reading them. Otherwise you will be referred back to them. 

Hey bud, if you're going to hack someone's computer, make sure you have the right person.

Quote from: Pace on March 05, 2016, 12:15:11 AM
Hey bud, if you're going to hack someone's computer, make sure you have the right person.

I am so confused.

Slim ran his mouth right into a ban, then hacked his way around the ban to create a new account and start this thread. Then I get a message from another member that slim is hacking his computer, email, and twitter. Maybe it's another one of slim's accounts. Maybe not. Don't know. I do know that when I get time, I'm tempted to send slim's squadron, group, and wing commander a letter. This young man has gone way beyond any kind of behavior that is acceptable from a CAP adult member.

I some times don't know if I am in Preschool or High School...Wait I'm on CAP Talk  >:D

Well, that escalated quickly.

Yea...I'm missing something on the back story.

That is a REAL human and not a troll account?
I just assumed that was a bored person trolling.
Interesting.
Did you poll the "stolen valor" websites for said individual?

Quote from: Pace on March 05, 2016, 03:47:55 AM
Slim ran his mouth right into a ban, then hacked his way around the ban to create a new account and start this thread. Then I get a message from another member that slim is hacking his computer, email, and twitter. Maybe it's another one of slim's accounts. Maybe not. Don't know. I do know that when I get time, I'm tempted to send slim's squadron, group, and wing commander a letter. This young man has gone way beyond any kind of behavior that is acceptable from a CAP adult member.

/delurk

I knew something was wrong with that person. The questions he posed and the comments he made really set off my troll alarm. Someone who wants to get a job with NHQ to effect change? Come on.

Then this thread, and the fact that he was hacking into accounts sealed the deal. He's pathological, definitely someone you don't want in CAP, especially not as an Officer.

I think Pace is right, that he should send a note to the person's commander.

/lurk

"Hacking" sounds like.

Attempting to gain unlawful access to a computer system is a criminal activity. If this kid really is "hacking" computers, the local authorities should be contacted.

Quote from: Fubar on March 07, 2016, 04:05:35 AM
Attempting to gain unlawful access to a computer system is a criminal activity. If this kid really is "hacking" computers, the local authorities should be contacted.

I know I'm old school, but what you described used to be called "cracking," and computer hacking wasn't an inherently bad thing. In any event I concur with your post.

I go away to one weekend CAP activity and miss all the fun.  ;D

Quote from: jeders on March 07, 2016, 02:02:27 PM
I go away to one weekend CAP activity and miss all the fun.  ;D

Nah, seems like it was a very quick flare up here.

Quote from: Capt Hatkevich on March 07, 2016, 04:14:09 PM

Quote from: jeders on March 07, 2016, 02:02:27 PM
I go away to one weekend CAP activity and miss all the fun.  ;D

Nah, seems like it was a very quick flare up here.

There may have been a ramp-up

Quote from: Garibaldi on March 07, 2016, 05:00:48 PM

Quote from: Capt Hatkevich on March 07, 2016, 04:14:09 PM

Quote from: jeders on March 07, 2016, 02:02:27 PM
I go away to one weekend CAP activity and miss all the fun.  ;D

Nah, seems like it was a very quick flare up here.

There may have been a ramp-up

Probably, but not directly on CT.

Quote from: neummy on March 07, 2016, 01:43:38 PM

Quote from: Fubar on March 07, 2016, 04:05:35 AM
Attempting to gain unlawful access to a computer system is a criminal activity. If this kid really is "hacking" computers, the local authorities should be contacted.

I know I'm old school, but what you described used to be called "cracking," and computer hacking wasn't an inherently bad thing. In any event I concur with your post.

That was until "cracking" became the art of breaking DRM protected files/programs. Unfortunately, "hackers" lost the battle to keep the name, resulting in a new type of certification that has added the adjective "ethical" to hacker as a method of differentiation.

Personally, I prefer the nice and simple terminology of "Black Hat," "White Hat," and "Grey Hat."

All of which can be found working for the government! Beats prison.

Quote from: vforvendetta on March 04, 2016, 10:40:45 PM
Hello everybody i am new here and looking for super good pals i am so happy i found a great place for civil air patrol members to talk, could i get any tips please on how to be the best civil air patrol member i can be. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

^^^ This has quickly become not about this... :o

Just to make it more CAPTalk-ish.  What uniform should be worn when hacking or cracking?

Quote from: Al Sayre on March 07, 2016, 08:13:50 PM
Just to make it more CAPTalk-ish.  What uniform should be worn when hacking or cracking?

Who cares as long as it has a boonie hat.

Quote from: THRAWN on March 07, 2016, 08:16:10 PM

Quote from: Al Sayre on March 07, 2016, 08:13:50 PM
Just to make it more CAPTalk-ish.  What uniform should be worn when hacking or cracking?

Who cares as long as it has a boonie hat.

PT belt for safety.

Quote from: THRAWN on March 07, 2016, 08:16:10 PM

Quote from: Al Sayre on March 07, 2016, 08:13:50 PM
Just to make it more CAPTalk-ish.  What uniform should be worn when hacking or cracking?

Who cares as long as it has a boonie hat.

It has to be reflective.

ORM will require a static strap and a review of casual nmap commands.

Quote from: C/ID-073 on March 07, 2016, 07:57:53 PM

Quote from: vforvendetta on March 04, 2016, 10:40:45 PM
Hello everybody i am new here and looking for super good pals i am so happy i found a great place for civil air patrol members to talk, could i get any tips please on how to be the best civil air patrol member i can be. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

^^^ This has quickly become not about this... :o

This thread was never about "this".

Quote from: winterg on March 07, 2016, 08:56:53 PM

Quote from: C/ID-073 on March 07, 2016, 07:57:53 PM

Quote from: vforvendetta on March 04, 2016, 10:40:45 PM
Hello everybody i am new here and looking for super good pals i am so happy i found a great place for civil air patrol members to talk, could i get any tips please on how to be the best civil air patrol member i can be. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

^^^ This has quickly become not about this... :o

This thread was never about "this".

It's usually about that or the other.

Quote from: Garibaldi on March 07, 2016, 09:06:39 PM

Quote from: winterg on March 07, 2016, 08:56:53 PM

Quote from: C/ID-073 on March 07, 2016, 07:57:53 PM

Quote from: vforvendetta on March 04, 2016, 10:40:45 PM
Hello everybody i am new here and looking for super good pals i am so happy i found a great place for civil air patrol members to talk, could i get any tips please on how to be the best civil air patrol member i can be. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

^^^ This has quickly become not about this... :o

This thread was never about "this".

It's usually about that or the other.

Sometimes it's about that other thing.

Makes sense.  ;)

Quote from: Al Sayre on March 07, 2016, 08:13:50 PM
Just to make it more CAPTalk-ish.  What uniform should be worn when hacking or cracking?

Sweats and bunny slippers.  8)

Even more astray:

http://www.wired.com/2011/01/death-wears-a-snuggie/ (http://www.wired.com/2011/01/death-wears-a-snuggie/)

Scroll down for the patch... "Death Wears Bunny Slippers".  I know we have some missileers here - thanks for serving.

V/R
Spam

[Fuel on the flame]
What really matters is that we have access (in fully tiger striped tapes and insignia ABUs) to get into the duty free store and BX for a tax free TV and Jack to enjoy while were hanging out at the base bowling alley after using the base gym.
[/Flame off]

Interesting ...
So, can cadets in uniform make purchases in uniform @ the Class 6 if they have a note from their squadron commander?

Quote from: Pace on March 07, 2016, 10:52:24 PM
[Fuel on the flame]
What really matters is that we have access (in fully tiger striped tapes and insignia ABUs) to get into the duty free store and BX for a tax free TV and Jack to enjoy while were hanging out at the base bowling alley after using the base gym.
[/Flame off]

Quote from: USACAP on March 08, 2016, 02:30:11 AM
Interesting ...
So, can cadets in uniform make purchases in uniform @ the Class 6 if they have a note from their squadron commander?

Quote from: Pace on March 07, 2016, 10:52:24 PM
[Fuel on the flame]
What really matters is that we have access (in fully tiger striped tapes and insignia ABUs) to get into the duty free store and BX for a tax free TV and Jack to enjoy while were hanging out at the base bowling alley after using the base gym.
[/Flame off]

Nope. There's still that pesky age thing. Also, the reg about exchange privileges specifically forbids Class 6 purchases. (Emphasis mine.)

14. Servicemembers of the Civil Air Patrol in a travel status and occupying government quarters on a DOD installation.

a. For purchases other than uniforms, they will be identified with their current membership card, their travel authorization, and evi- dence they are occupying government quarters on the installation. b. Purchase of uniforms, when Civil Air Patrol membership card is shown. c. No state tax-free tobacco items. d. No tax-free alcohol beverages.

Duty Free Store? ???  I don't ever recall seeing a Duty Free Store on any US Military installation.
Are you by chance referring to the Class 6 store? Well, CAP has never been allowed to use the Class 6.
And cadets wouldn't be allowed inside anyway, because you do have to be 21 to buy alcohol on base.

Aren't all BX/PX/NEXs technically duty free?

Duty is paid when importing an item from another country. That doesn't apply since the facilities are within the United States. Tax-free would be the appropriate term.

Guys, that was part of the joke. Thanks for the clarification, though, for anyone that missed it.

Quote from: PHall on March 08, 2016, 05:16:36 AM
Duty Free Store? ???  I don't ever recall seeing a Duty Free Store on any US Military installation.

I've never seen anything Duty- free in the Military.. I've seen plenty of regular Duty, Staff Duty, CQ Duty and I've even seen others participate in Extra Duty, but Duty Free- I think thats every Specialists dream.

Ha.
I was [SARC-ON] but I suppose one can never be too sure around here.
I've known cadets who went through door 2B for shopping at the Class-VI.

Quote from: SarDragon on March 08, 2016, 05:09:22 AM

Quote from: USACAP on March 08, 2016, 02:30:11 AM
Interesting ...
So, can cadets in uniform make purchases in uniform @ the Class 6 if they have a note from their squadron commander?

Quote from: Pace on March 07, 2016, 10:52:24 PM
[Fuel on the flame]
What really matters is that we have access (in fully tiger striped tapes and insignia ABUs) to get into the duty free store and BX for a tax free TV and Jack to enjoy while were hanging out at the base bowling alley after using the base gym.
[/Flame off]

Nope. There's still that pesky age thing. Also, the reg about exchange privileges specifically forbids Class 6 purchases. (Emphasis mine.)

14. Servicemembers of the Civil Air Patrol in a travel status and occupying government quarters on a DOD installation.

a. For purchases other than uniforms, they will be identified with their current membership card, their travel authorization, and evi- dence they are occupying government quarters on the installation. b. Purchase of uniforms, when Civil Air Patrol membership card is shown. c. No state tax-free tobacco items. d. No tax-free alcohol beverages.

Listen to your superiors, act smart, act safe, have fun.