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CAWG CC 'Departing' ?

Started by a2capt, September 11, 2007, 06:54:11 PM

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a2capt

Hmmm... got a somewhat ambiguous note from the CAWG CC ...

.... "It's been a pleasure working with you all" .. "Please give your next commander your full support."

With the Wing Conference coming in a couple weeks.. what timing..

..of course, are we without a commander now, or as of the conference, do we have an acting CC?

... time will tell.

Major Lord

WTF? Over? Just got an E-mail wishing CAWG well and thanking the membership for all we have done, etc. etc. Whats up with that?

Major Lord
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

Skyray

Quote from: a2capt on September 11, 2007, 06:54:11 PM
Hmmm... got a somewhat ambiguous note from the CAWG CC ...

.... "It's been a pleasure working with you all" .. "Please give your next commander your full support."

With the Wing Conference coming in a couple weeks.. what timing..

..of course, are we without a commander now, or as of the conference, do we have an acting CC?

... time will tell.

Like the refrain from Grease:

Tell me more; tell me more; tell me more!
Doug Johnson - Miami

Always Active-Sometimes a Member

Pylon

Didn't the current CAWG/CC just very recently take office?
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

Major Lord

It has been about 5 months. He is a personal friend of Maj Gen Pineda and was the former director of AE for Colorado Wing.

Major Lord
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

Grumpy

Could this mean that we are about to hear something more about TP?

Just askin', just askin'   :angel:

bosshawk

Col Muniz was relieved by Col Ernie Pearson, the Pacific Region Commander, without any explanation.  He is being replaced, on an interim basis, by Col Larry Myrick, an ex-CAWG Wing Commander and currently the Deputy Commander of the Region.  Nothing further has been said nor released and it will likely stay that way.

Speculation is simply grist for the mill.
Paul M. Reed
Col, USA(ret)
Former CAP Lt Col
Wilson #2777

Eagle400

Quote from: CaptLord on September 11, 2007, 07:39:57 PMHe is a personal friend of Maj Gen Pineda...

Well, now we know how he got his job! 

PHall

Quote from: bosshawk on September 11, 2007, 07:42:50 PM
Col Muniz was relieved by Col Ernie Pearson, the Pacific Region Commander, without any explanation. 

Col Pearson doesn't need to give any kind of explanation. According to the rules, the Region Commanders are the people who hire and fire Wing Commanders, not the National Commander.


a2capt

Precisely what I was hoping to find out.

Muniz had no support. The whole thing stunk anyway.

Col. Nelson was too hands off, Col. Myrick wouldn't stand for most of the shenanigans that went on after his departure. Too many good folks were dumped by Muniz or leaned on until they left. The Pineda Machine at work. No trust at all.

I wonder how many other Cronies will suffer a similar fate now.. curious.

Speculation is human nature.

None the less, I like what I see, maybe it's time to register for the Wing Conference now.

.. guess the dunk tank idea happened early.  ;)

Skyray

QuoteCould this mean that we are about to hear something more about TP?

Probably not.  What it does mean is that Colonel Ernie Pearson is not part of the Pineda Posse and he has more cojones than most of the National Board.  It is good to see command decisions being made for the good of the organization rather than on the basis of political support.
Doug Johnson - Miami

Always Active-Sometimes a Member

Grumpy


lordmonar

My understanding is the the CAWG/CC was releived due to his actions related to the Fosset search.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

Major Lord

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

PHall

Quote from: lordmonar on September 11, 2007, 11:01:28 PM
My understanding is the the CAWG/CC was releived due to his actions related to the Fosset search.

His actions at the SAR EVAL didn't help him either.

Skyray

On another forum I commented that Bowling and Pineda had never been known for making their appointments with regard to ES skill or efficiency.
Doug Johnson - Miami

Always Active-Sometimes a Member

a2capt

Quote from: lordmonar on September 11, 2007, 11:01:28 PM
My understanding is the the CAWG/CC was releived due to his actions related to the Fossett search.

Vwwwwy Into-westing ...  :o  :o    ;)

ES morale in CAWG is in pretty big disarray.

OTOH, Col. Muniz, while being our Commander, was put in that place under non-standard circumstances and had a major uphill battle which he largely had little support for, it seemed.

Col. Nelson had a lack of emphasis, hands off, unless it was Cadet related, approach to everything. It showed. But TP's actions were also wrong. None of the funny business and non-team-player-approach that ES has became with Col. Nelson's arrival would have ever happened otherwise.

Col. Muniz buddied up with TP and 'earned' the CAWG position, seemingly as it's been reported, without ever holding a command position of similar nature. You know, of a unit, group, etc.

What cometh, get taketh away.

We can only hope a replacement worth of Col. Myrick type of leadership is found, to fix this once and for all. At least for 3 more years.

I will say that in the 5 months, Col. Muniz attempted to reach out to the membership, he revived the CAWG safety bulletin, sent regular emails to the general membership, replied to topics, etc. Something I can't say I've ever seen before from any unit CC past the local squadron level.

lordmonar

Quote from: CaptLord on September 11, 2007, 11:06:17 PM
His actions?

Major Lord

This is all third hand information....but he did not learn to play and work well with others.  I was told that The Govinator got involved.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

SDF_Specialist

Wow. When Arnold gets involved, there are some heads to be rolled!
SDF_Specialist

Eagle400

Quote from: lordmonar on September 12, 2007, 12:36:38 AMThis is all third hand information....but he did not learn to play and work well with others.  I was told that The Govinator got involved.

That is why CAP officers without command experience should never be appointed as commanders.  If Col Muniz wasn't good friends with the general-who-shall-not-be-named, he probably would never have been appointed as CAWG/CC in the first place.   

It would also do CAP a lot of good to have most officers voted into their positions, rather than appointed.  That would solve a lot of problems, including the "officer appointed as a commander because he's best friends with a general" syndrome.