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Cadet Programs => Cadet Programs Management & Activities => Topic started by: Майор Хаткевич on November 02, 2009, 07:02:12 PM

Title: When did CAP Begin to Number Cadet Awards?
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on November 02, 2009, 07:02:12 PM
I know the Spaatz has been numbered from the start, and the Spaatz Association has done a great job of keeping a list.

I'm wondering about the Mitchell and Earhart. Both awards existed at the start in '64, but I know there are some SM on this board that have unnumbered Mitchell numbers, or were C/LtCol before the '95 institution of the Eaker.

So, does anyone have anything official/hearsay of the official origin dates on the Mitchell and Earhart?
Title: Re: When did CAP Begin to Number Cadet Awards?
Post by: wacapgh on November 02, 2009, 07:17:57 PM
Numbering for the Earhart began in 1979
Title: Re: When did CAP Begin to Number Cadet Awards?
Post by: AdAstra on November 02, 2009, 07:19:59 PM
The Mitchell, Earhart and Spaatz awards were introduced in May/June 1964. My award is titled "Certificate of Proficiency [Gen Billy Mitchell Award]", dated 31 Dec 66, and is un-numbered.
Title: Re: When did CAP Begin to Number Cadet Awards?
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on November 02, 2009, 07:28:30 PM
So there is a 15 year period from '64 to '79 where neither Mitchell nor Earhart was numbered. Given historically higher membership numbers, anyone want to venture a guess as to the potential number of Mitchell/Earhart awards given in that time + the awards currently numbered?
Title: Re: When did CAP Begin to Number Cadet Awards?
Post by: Cecil DP on November 02, 2009, 07:33:47 PM
I seem to recall that my Cadet Commander in 1965 had an Earhart #14.
Title: Re: When did CAP Begin to Number Cadet Awards?
Post by: Al Sayre on November 02, 2009, 07:51:42 PM
I got my Mitchell in '77 and it had no number.  When I rejoined in '05, NHQ had none of of my records, and the Squadron has long since gone away.  My actual certificate was the victim of Military PCS movers who apparently dropped some of my boxes overboard in transit back from Italy...  I asked about getting it replaced when I rejoined, and was told no paper, no certificate... Oh well, my bad luck.  Moral of the story, keep copies of everything...
Title: Re: When did CAP Begin to Number Cadet Awards?
Post by: SarDragon on November 02, 2009, 09:08:00 PM
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on November 02, 2009, 07:28:30 PM
So there is a 15 year period from '64 to '79 where neither Mitchell nor Earhart was numbered. Given historically higher membership numbers, anyone want to venture a guess as to the potential number of Mitchell/Earhart awards given in that time + the awards currently numbered?

I'd guess maybe 60% of the current number for the 15 year period. It was probably double around the early '90s. Find somebody with a Mitchell dated around '92 or '93 and see what the number is.

The current average time for the award is lower these days, so the number of unnumbered awards was likely exceeded by numbered awards sooner than 15 years after the numbering started.

YMMV.
Title: Re: When did CAP Begin to Number Cadet Awards?
Post by: ol'fido on November 03, 2009, 12:10:01 AM
IIRC, we had a thread on this not to long ago. Might search for that one. It went on for a while, so you might get some info there.
Title: Re: When did CAP Begin to Number Cadet Awards?
Post by: Gunner C on November 03, 2009, 12:35:09 AM
Quote from: Cecil DP on November 02, 2009, 07:33:47 PM
I seem to recall that my Cadet Commander in 1965 had an Earhart #14.
My Earhart was from 1969 and is unnumbered as was my Mitchell.