U.S. Civil Air Patrol tape

Started by BillB, December 31, 2007, 06:44:04 PM

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BillB

According to an update (12/12/07) on Knowledge Base, the U.S. Civil Air Patrol tape for BDUs is still in effect. the old style Civil Air Patrol tapes are no longer made, only the new style for sale by Vanguard. There is a cutoff date for the old style tapes listed in the posting. The recent NEC action only removed U.S. Civil Air Patrol from the signature block in corrospondance.
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drcomm

#1
I saw that.  I've been waiting to see how the "U S" thing would play out. 
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Starbase Composite Squadron, SWR-OK-151
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Pylon

They're waiting for the next NB meeting to reverse the U.S. Civil Air Patrol uniform items.
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Major Carrales

Quote from: Pylon on December 31, 2007, 06:48:48 PM
They're waiting for the next NB meeting to reverse the U.S. Civil Air Patrol uniform items.

Are they going to start with "We apologize for this interruption,we now resume the Civil Air Patrol Napetapes Already in PROGRESS."

Really, from now on they need to think a bit more before making these sorts of changes.  I've just looked at Pics from the Texas Wing Encampment and numerous cadets have the "US Civil Air Patrol"nametapes. 

While I am a fan of collecting  the sort of novelty that "limited era" historical items (like McPeak stripes and USAF Brush Jackets), I think it is disingenuous to "create" them on purpose (like comic book publishers and the US Mint that create "rare issues" and "rare coins" just because.)
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

afgeo4

The financial burden those changes place may not be a large one, but it does exist. Especially for cadets and their parents.

It also creates an image of chaos in the house. Think how unprofessional it seems to a cadet's parent. We can't even get tiny little things straight, how are we caring for their children?
GEORGE LURYE

JohnKachenmeister

Another former CAP officer

RiverAux

I'm sure they will have some sort of reasonable phase out date for the US tapes that will probably be far enough in the future that many current cadets will be out of the program before having to change. 

alamrcn

Maybe National Headquarters will do like the Coka-Cola Company...

When it turned out that no one liked the New Coke receipe and wanted their old Coke back, the Coka-Cola Company arranged for a trade! Bring in your unopened cans of "New Coke" they said, and exchange them for the new "Classic Coke" flavor.

So what are the chances of a, "send us your new or used U.S. Civil Air Patrol tapes and we'll replace each of them with a Civil Air Patrol tape." It would be a very good show of member support on their part, and I can't imagine the cost being all that much on the whole scale of things.

-Ace



Ace Browning, Maj, CAP
History Hoarder
71st Wing, Minnesota

jimmydeanno

^So our nametapes will go from "U.S. Civil Air Patrol" to "Civil Air Patrol Classic?"  Guess we could just abbreviate it to CAPC - but then everyone would get confused... :D
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

SDF_Specialist

What about a change of tape color? Maybe white lettering on a black tape? I'm just throwing ideas around. Either way, we're most likely going to lose the "U.S." on the tapes.
SDF_Specialist

Stonewall

Too bad we're not USAF Aux 100% of the time.  We could have "USAF AUXILIARY" tapes.  It's even shorter than "CIVIL AIR PATROL".  

But of course it's all in jest...or is it  8)
Serving since 1987.

Hawk200

Quote from: Stonewall on January 04, 2008, 09:15:17 PM
Too bad we're not USAF Aux 100% of the time.  We could have "USAF AUXILIARY" tapes.  It's even shorter than "CIVIL AIR PATROL".  

But of course it's all in jest...or is it  8)

I've always considered "Civil Air Patrol" as who we are, as a name. "USAF Auxiliary" I've always thought as more of what we are.

With our bright tapes, I wouldn't even want to put "USAF" on anything. If we wore the same subdued they did, I could go for it.

SDF_Specialist

Quote from: Hawk200 on January 04, 2008, 09:17:55 PM

I've always considered "Civil Air Patrol" as who we are, as a name. "USAF Auxiliary" I've always thought as more of what we are.

With our bright tapes, I wouldn't even want to put "USAF" on anything. If we wore the same subdued they did, I could go for it.

Oh I'd love the subdued tapes. To put "CIVIL AIR PATROL" or even "U.S. CIVIL AIR PATROL" in the blue lettering on the green tape would be great. But the AF is just not down with its auxiliary looking remotely close to something as cool as it really is. I'm not sure why they are against it, but it would spark even more questions from non-members. I can't tell you how many people have stopped me just to ask about the uniform.
SDF_Specialist

Stonewall

Quote from: Hawk200 on January 04, 2008, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: Stonewall on January 04, 2008, 09:15:17 PM
Too bad we're not USAF Aux 100% of the time.  We could have "USAF AUXILIARY" tapes.  It's even shorter than "CIVIL AIR PATROL".  

But of course it's all in jest...or is it  8)

I've always considered "Civil Air Patrol" as who we are, as a name. "USAF Auxiliary" I've always thought as more of what we are.

Yep, you're absolutely correct.

+1 on the subdued tapes.
Serving since 1987.

RogueLeader

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GRW 3340


jimmydeanno

If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

Short Field

Quote from: Hawk200 on January 04, 2008, 09:17:55 PM
I've always considered "Civil Air Patrol" as who we are, as a name. "USAF Auxiliary" I've always thought as more of what we are.

USAF Auxiliary?

TITLE 10, CHAPTER 909 - CIVIL AIR PATROL     
Section  9442 (a) Volunteer Civilian Auxiliary. - The Civil Air Patrol is a
    volunteer civilian auxiliary of the Air Force when the services of
    the Civil Air Patrol are used by any department or agency in any
    branch of the Federal Government.


I'll settle for tapes that read Civil Air Patrol instead of Volunteer Civilian Auxiliary of the Air Force
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mikeylikey

^ I am a member of the VCAAF (Volunteer Civilian Auxiliary of the Air Force)!

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Stonewall

Quote from: Short Field on January 05, 2008, 12:53:31 AM
USAF Auxiliary?

TITLE 10, CHAPTER 909 - CIVIL AIR PATROL     
Section  9442 (a) Volunteer Civilian Auxiliary. - The Civil Air Patrol is a
    volunteer civilian auxiliary of the Air Force when the services of
    the Civil Air Patrol are used by any department or agency in any
    branch of the Federal Government.


Ahhh....Remember the good old days when we were CAP, USAF Auxiliary 24/7/365... 
Serving since 1987.