Identifying some patches from NESA photos

[BillB]

Dave
I think it would be possible at the Wing level. Call them Compliance Officers.  They would just visit a Squadron (unannounced) and just stand back and watch. They would make up a list of uniform violations, or unauthorized patches, etc. and turn the list in to the Commander. They would take no corrective action, leaving that up to the Commander. I'd suggest a wekend training activity for Compliance Officers to make sure all were on the same page, and all understood 39-1. For Wings with Groups, the Group Commander might appoint Compliance Officers, but they would still need to attend the weekend training. I'd almost bet that most Compliance Officers would be former cadets.

[Eclipse]

We already have Commanders charged with that duty, we don't need a secret police from higher HQ.

What you're describing is one of the reasons Groups exist.

[Tim Medeiros]

http://www.nationalhonorguardacademy.com/

Be advised, this site is not for the CAP National Honor Guard Academy.

[HGjunkie]

http://www.nationalhonorguardacademy.com/

Be advised, this site is not for the CAP National Honor Guard Academy.

http://www.nationalhonorguardacademy.com/

I'll just leave this here 

Yeah, definitely not pretty. I haven't even been, but I've heard enough to know. ^_^  I would soo love to see HGA inspecting all other NCSAs run by CAP. THAT would be worth filming and selling DVDs of to provide funding for HGA, eh? :clap: :angel:

Sorry Dak, but here's the CAP HGA sites;
http://www.caphga.org/
http://www.ncsas.com/index.cfm/honor_guard_academy?show=career_fair&careerFairID=6

[Bluelakes 13]

National has got to get CAWG and PAWG (the worst offenders) into line.....and then they need to keep their national activities in line (NESA issues out of reg T-shirts to all their participants and allows their students and staff to be out of regs).

What's wrong with the NESA T-shirt?

[tsrup]

Eclipse nailed it on the head in the first page:

You tell them in a direct, professional, and private manner.

extra emphasis mine.

This is nothing short of humiliating people without their knowledge.  There is no educational value from this thread that cannot be gained by simply reading 39-1.

Someone has a uniform violation?  Fine, there are ways to deal with it.  Like professionals.  Like what was quoted above.


Praise publicly, Reprimand Privately.

That is all.

[lordmonar]

Billb,

Why do we need a special officer to do that?

Every officer should be doing it all the time.

If everyone just did their job then we would be okay.

But it has to start at NHQ.  NHQ has to fix all the gray and contradictory information in the regs.  Then they have to enfoce those regs on the regions and wings.

I take care of my squadron and put pressure on my peers in other squadrons to do the same.

[Mustang]

National has got to get CAWG and PAWG (the worst offenders) into line.....

With all their orange hats, patches, etc, I can see PAWG....but how do you figure CAWG is one of the worst?  That certainly wasn't my experience in 8 years with that wing.  There are pockets of rogue behavior (e.g., embroidered flight suit nametags) but on the whole, uniform wear standards were very high.

p.s., I love "bad uniform threads"...hours of entertainment!

[SarDragon]

[AlphaSigOU]

Ain't gonna be long now... 

[N Harmon]

What's wrong with the NESA T-shirt?

Going by the letter of the regulation, the NESA t-shirt can not be worn with the BDU...

12	Undergarments	Mandatory. All appropriate underwear will be worn.
	(Undershirts)	Brown or black. Either V-neck, U-neck, crew neck or athletic style without pockets. Black or brown turtlenecks, dickeys, or thermal undershirts without pockets may also be worn. EXCEPTION: members may wear white thermal undershirts even if exposed at neck. Unit commanders may prescribe color, unit designation, and cloth or silk screen emblem, to be worn on left side of chest not to exceed 5 inches in diameter.

...because of the logo on the back of the shirt.

Apparently the BBDUs do not have this limitation?

[DakRadz]

http://www.nationalhonorguardacademy.com/

Be advised, this site is not for the CAP National Honor Guard Academy.

http://www.nationalhonorguardacademy.com/

I'll just leave this here 

Yeah, definitely not pretty. I haven't even been, but I've heard enough to know. ^_^  I would soo love to see HGA inspecting all other NCSAs run by CAP. THAT would be worth filming and selling DVDs of to provide funding for HGA, eh? :clap: :angel:

Sorry Dak, but here's the CAP HGA sites;
http://www.caphga.org/
http://www.ncsas.com/index.cfm/honor_guard_academy?show=career_fair&careerFairID=6

Since the thread is going out the window anyway...


Oh, I've already looked through those. I just wanted to share what popped up on my Google search for HGA.

Thank you Maj Medeiros for pointing that out, forgot to mention.

Now, I really, really, REALLY want to go to HGA. Though it may not be possible..