Identifying some patches from NESA photos

Started by RVT, July 27, 2010, 11:26:33 PM

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RVT

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4742127837_3d7affdd17.jpgOverlooking that this uniform still has "US Civil Air Patrol" on it,, what exactly is that patch that appears immediately above it?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4740680277_cc16196d89.jpgI don't recognize whats over the nametag here, or on either of the pocket patches.  I assume the left pocket is a unit patch, but whats that on the right side?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4123/4742120935_510ce2dbfe.jpg In this case I recognize all of them, but now I'm wondering how many optional patches can you wear on the right sleeve of a flight suit?  As many as you can cram on there?

notaNCO forever

The patch above the cap tape is a cap ranger tag

Eclipse

#2
1 - HMRS Ranger Tab.  Wear is controversial at best, especially outside PAWG
(he is also sporting an unauthorized modification to his sleeve)

2 - Challenger recovery mission participation patch - only approved for those involved from TXWG.
(whatever those wings are she's wearing IC Bdage above her name is not worn there)

3 - He needs to pick one.

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Larry Mangum

The patch above the name tag is an IC badge
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Eclipse

Quote from: Who_knows? on July 27, 2010, 11:36:34 PM
The patch above the name tag is an IC badge

Well that's not where you wear it on the BDU's.  She needs to make a choice - GBD or IC.

All of these and the myriad other issues should be fixed on the spot - that's one of the reasons we have national activities
is to bring standardization and correction to people in situations like these.

"That Others May Zoom"

DC

I love the giant swaths of velcro on #2's breast pockets too. Very professional looking.  ::)

NIN

Quote from: Eclipse on July 27, 2010, 11:35:19 PM
1 - HMRS Ranger Tab.  Wear is controversial at best, especially outside PAWG
(he is also sporting an unauthorized modification to his sleeve)

Actually, he's wearing the Nomex Aviator Battle Dress Uniform.    The ABDU replaced the 'green bag' Nomex flight suit.  I have a set, they're.. interesting.  The key here is, however, that they are _not_ the same as BDUs and shouldn't be worn as such.

(A friend was wear testing these for the Army @ Fort Hood in the 1990s, and got chewed out by a colonel in the line at the PX because "you aviators always want to do something to your uniform to be different.."   Then he showed the colonel the documentation for the wear test for HQDA or Natick.. Shoe, meet other foot.)
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This horribly faded uniform is precisely why friends don't let friends buy BBDUs from Vanguard.  Go with Propper Battle-rip.
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DakRadz

That's... Oh. That's a uniform? I thought she sewed her patches onto an old jean jacket...

Hmm. Is her ES Patch in the correct spot?

RVT

Quote from: DakRadz on July 28, 2010, 03:34:28 AMThat's... Oh. That's a uniform? I thought she sewed her patches onto an old jean jacket...Hmm. Is her ES Patch in the correct spot?

It is, given that an IC badge is sewn on in the wrong place, displacing the ES patch upwards.  If she really has her heart set on wearing three badges the IC could be put on the left pocket flap.  Still unauthorized but it looks less wrong as its common in the actual military to do that when you have a third badge to wear.

The Velcro on the pockets is probably the color the BBDU originally was, showing how trashed the entire uniform is.  Its probably still OK for field work but I would not show up at a national run school in something like that.  By the same token, considering how faded the uniform IS, this is obviously someone who does a lot of work and I wouldn't give them any grief about it.

Eclipse

Quote from: Dwight J. Dutton on July 28, 2010, 03:56:56 AM
Quote from: DakRadz on July 28, 2010, 03:34:28 AMThat's... Oh. That's a uniform? I thought she sewed her patches onto an old jean jacket...Hmm. Is her ES Patch in the correct spot?

It is, given that an IC badge is sewn on in the wrong place, displacing the ES patch upwards.  If she really has her heart set on wearing three badges the IC could be put on the left pocket flap.  Still unauthorized but it looks less wrong as its common in the actual military to do that when you have a third badge to wear.

Not in the Air Force, and please don't suggest it.

The BBDU can look like that in two bad washings, that's why I only dryclean mine  (UBER STARCH! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

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DakRadz

If you look at her albeit unauthorized but admittedly decorated uniform, she probably does a lot of work, as opposed to the "two washes" idea. The badges she does have aren't exactly handed out like candy.

JK657

There seems to always be a thread going about uniforms not looking professional (grey slides, BBDU, TPU, no hard rank,etc) but when I see a pic with a half dozen patches I think it stands out more than any of those.
I'm all for being proud of your accomplishments and all but sometimes less is more.

RVT

Quote from: Eclipse on July 28, 2010, 03:59:48 AMNot in the Air Force, and please don't suggest it.
Well the best fix I can think of would be to take off the IC badge, the ES patch and the aviator wings and then put the IC badge on where the aviator wings came off.  If you have to lose one of the three badges on a BDU uniform the aviator wings are the least important. 

Anybody with a master ground team badge AND an IC badge really doesn't need to be wearing a Pluto patch anyway.

Quote from: Eclipse on July 28, 2010, 03:59:48 AMThe BBDU can look like that in two bad washings, that's why I only dryclean mine  (UBER STARCH! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)
I'm not going to dry clean a field uniform.  But nothing I've ever gotten from Propper has faded anyway so I'm not really concerned.

spacecommand

#14
If you see someone with wearing something on a uniform incorrectly or wearing an unauthorized item what do you do?
Like the topic at hand, incorrect patch placement etc?

I've seen photos where people are either: (not the photos listed here though)
-Wearing the wrong type nameplate (eg senior wearing blue three lined nameplate)
-Wearing  the wrong type of nameplate on a uniform that uses a different type of nameplate
-Wearing the nameplate on the wrong side

I don't know, but maybe I'm just crazy, but the first thing I always look to see is if their nameplate is correct.   :o

Eclipse

The choice is the GBD badge or the IC in that position.  The IC badge is not an aviator badge and does not replace the wings.

"That Others May Zoom"

Eclipse

#16
Quote from: spacecommand on July 28, 2010, 04:34:04 AM
If you see someone with wearing something on a uniform incorrectly or wearing an unauthorized item what do you do?
Like the topic at hand, incorrect patch placement etc?

You tell them in a direct, professional, and private manner.

If you noticed, so did ten other people, and if you respect your fellow members you will tell them.  For those that don't want to listen,
or are breaking regs on purpose, a call or note to their CC is not unwarranted.

PS. Make sure you're right...

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SarDragon

I have two sets of Propper poly-cotton BBDUs, from Vanguard. They probably haven't been washed as much as the ones above, but they are hardly faded, and IMHO, the Vanguard fang was unnecessary.

The Velcro is undoubtedly black. Being primarily nylon based, it doesn't fade nearly as fast as other fabric materials. I have some Navy blue on some other clothing that is many shades darker than the faded poly-cotton that originally matched.
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Fubar

Poking around flickr does allow one to discover some interesting things:

One of these patches is wrong:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/911photo/4020819351/

Interesting modification to the jacket (not to mention BDUs at a cemetery):
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/3110927233_8d1de9b61d_b.jpg

Looks like a Blue Beret makes an appearance outside of Wisconsin:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eaglz/4430076412/

Just how much eye-makeup is allowed?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2700/4430077464_148d6193f9.jpg

Nice Hat:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2541/3860278823_56d8bb1dea.jpg

Another nice hat:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3450/3779979092_d196a34cfb.jpg

Saluting in a polo shirt:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4052/4626779337_215af9b441.jpg

Metal rank (was this allowed in the past perhaps?):
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1061/1096126427_1d48d2da5b_b.jpg

This was about 5 minutes worth of surfing. I skipped over the heavy folks in BDUs, numerous boonie hats, and blue BDUs that had seen better days.

DakRadz

Oh my. The blue beret is not allowed for wear on military bases, and that's where she was.... Being that USAF Security Forces wear the beret.