Do you want to switch to ABU's?

Started by HGjunkie, June 17, 2010, 02:10:43 AM

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Do you want CAP to switch over to the ABU's?

Yes
47 (42.7%)
No
35 (31.8%)
Maybe so
5 (4.5%)
Don't care
21 (19.1%)
Undecided
2 (1.8%)

Total Members Voted: 110

Voting closed: June 27, 2010, 02:10:43 AM

PHall

Quote from: a2capt on June 19, 2010, 09:40:54 PM
They hardly have them at March ARB as it is. Sometimes I see 1 option, other times I see none.

The only black boots still at March ARB are the $200 Matterhorns that nobody is going to buy.

Senior

You can find issue sage green boots on ebay right now.  I thought of
buying a pair to have when/if we go to the new AF uniform.  I have seen a nice looking black boot at Wally World for 39.99. ;)

I read in a gun magazine that the Army is going to adopt multicam
for forces in Afghanistan soon.  I think we should adopt the BBDU
for cadets and seniors for the field uniform.   Any mulitcam uniform I
have seen is outrageously expensive. ;) 

tsrup

Quote from: Senior on June 20, 2010, 12:37:41 AM
You can find issue sage green boots on ebay right now.  I thought of
buying a pair to have when/if we go to the new AF uniform.  I have seen a nice looking black boot at Wally World for 39.99. ;)

I read in a gun magazine that the Army is going to adopt multicam
for forces in Afghanistan soon.  I think we should adopt the BBDU
for cadets and seniors for the field uniform.   Any mulitcam uniform I
have seen is outrageously expensive. ;)

I'd be willing to bet that multicam is going to be treated the same way the DCU's were.  They will be issued and be appropriate for wear in theater, and thats about it.
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Krapenhoeffer

I do believe that in the RealAirForceTM that the sage green boots are authorized with BDUs until the phase out. I foresee CAP authorizing that as well, with or without the ABU.
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DC

Quote from: Senior on June 20, 2010, 12:37:41 AM
You can find issue sage green boots on ebay right now.  I thought of
buying a pair to have when/if we go to the new AF uniform.  I have seen a nice looking black boot at Wally World for 39.99. ;)

I read in a gun magazine that the Army is going to adopt multicam
for forces in Afghanistan soon.  I think we should adopt the BBDU
for cadets and seniors for the field uniform.   Any mulitcam uniform I
have seen is outrageously expensive. ;)
If production is ramped up for the military the price should drop substantially. Especially if it is adopted by the entire DOD as opposed to one branch.

If CAP drops black boots I honestly hope they switch to tan. I'm all for staying as close to the Air Force as possible, but I don't know of any of my cadets that can afford to spend upwards of $100 on boots alone.

Plus, I already have a pair of tan ones!  :angel:

pbcheez

I reccomend keeping the BDU's. The patches make the uniform look not only better but gives you and your unit some individuality from sister units.

RVT

Quote from: pbcheez on June 23, 2010, 05:05:20 AM
I recommend keeping the BDU's. The patches make the uniform look not only better but gives you and your unit some individuality from sister units.
After looking at a picture (I have never seen this uniform) it looks like the style is the same as the existing BDU and the only difference is the camo pattern.  Since the camo pattern is meaningless in CAP I can take it or leave it as long as we use the same black boots worn with the BDU & BBDU .

DC

^Out of curiosity, why do you want to retain the boots that are becoming increasingly hard to find?


cap235629

Quote from: DC on June 23, 2010, 06:34:00 PM
^Out of curiosity, why do you want to retain the boots that are becoming increasingly hard to find?
Black boots are in no way hard to find. I wear Bates boots that I bought at Academy Sports for $59.00. They even have a decent pair for $30.00. Black boots will always be available because the majority of Police Departments in the US wear them.
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CadetProgramGuy

You know if Mama blue is looking for a uniform that is CAP distinct, ABU's with Black boots would be it.

Don't think its gonna happen, but it is a thought.

Custer

Quote from: CadetProgramGuy on June 23, 2010, 07:58:04 PM
You know if Mama blue is looking for a uniform that is CAP distinct, ABU's with Black boots would be it. Don't think its gonna happen, but it is a thought.

Actually, that most likely IS what will happen.  Just from the sake of economy I doubt we will be made to buy a special set of boots for just that one uniform that can't also be worn with BBDU, flight suits or such.

capsar67

 I would love to switch to ABUS!

RVT

Quote from: capsar67 on June 24, 2010, 10:52:40 PMI would love to switch to ABUS!

Only if I can still wear my BDU field jacket with it.  I don't even know what the ABU field jacket looks like - or even if there is one.  It looks like though the uniform itself is similar to the BDU, the cold weather gear for that uniform is completely different.

PHall

Quote from: RVT on June 25, 2010, 02:17:13 AM
Quote from: capsar67 on June 24, 2010, 10:52:40 PMI would love to switch to ABUS!

Only if I can still wear my BDU field jacket with it.  I don't even know what the ABU field jacket looks like - or even if there is one.  It looks like though the uniform itself is similar to the BDU, the cold weather gear for that uniform is completely different.

There is no ABU Field Jacket. The ABU pattern Gore-Tex parka that costs $180 is it's replacement.

RVT

Quote from: PHall on June 25, 2010, 02:29:52 AM
There is no ABU Field Jacket. The ABU pattern Gore-Tex parka that costs $180 is it's replacement.

That and the expensive special boots.  It could be a simple matter of most of us can't afford this stuff.

DakRadz

Quote from: Custer on June 23, 2010, 10:06:09 PM
Quote from: CadetProgramGuy on June 23, 2010, 07:58:04 PM
You know if Mama blue is looking for a uniform that is CAP distinct, ABU's with Black boots would be it. Don't think its gonna happen, but it is a thought.

Actually, that most likely IS what will happen.  Just from the sake of economy I doubt we will be made to buy a special set of boots for just that one uniform that can't also be worn with BBDU, flight suits or such.

If the above were to happen, it would be fine. Plus, considering the Army still mixes and matches ACU with BDU, I'm sure the AF will allow those of us who are supplying our own uniform to follow suit with BDU/ABU concerning expensive items.

If so, let's go right on to ABUs.

PHall

Quote from: DakRadz on June 25, 2010, 02:42:54 AM
Quote from: Custer on June 23, 2010, 10:06:09 PM
Quote from: CadetProgramGuy on June 23, 2010, 07:58:04 PM
You know if Mama blue is looking for a uniform that is CAP distinct, ABU's with Black boots would be it. Don't think its gonna happen, but it is a thought.

Actually, that most likely IS what will happen.  Just from the sake of economy I doubt we will be made to buy a special set of boots for just that one uniform that can't also be worn with BBDU, flight suits or such.

If the above were to happen, it would be fine. Plus, considering the Army still mixes and matches ACU with BDU, I'm sure the AF will allow those of us who are supplying our own uniform to follow suit with BDU/ABU concerning expensive items.

If so, let's go right on to ABUs.

Better go update your Army info, you wear anything BDU and you will incur the immediate wrath of the First Sergeant.
The wear out date for BDU's in the Army was over two years ago.

NCRblues

I highly HIGHLY doubt the AF is going to allow cap to mix and match ABU/BDU at all...
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SarDragon

Quote from: NCRblues on June 25, 2010, 03:54:17 AM
I highly HIGHLY doubt the AF is going to allow cap to mix and match ABU/BDU at all...

Well, of course not. A cap is either ABU, or BDU. I've never seen one that is a mix of both.  ;)
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