What is after level V

[Spike]

So, I have level five done since last March.  What more professional development is there in CAP now??  Do I sign up for the "Organizational Excellence" specialty track??  I have done more Professional development and attended more CAP courses than my Wing and Region Commnader, except for the Wing Commanders Course.  These are the people who are supposed to guide me the through the OE track?!?!

OR do most people just "check the box" and say "PRO DEV complete".

[Nick]

What more professional development is there in CAP now?

Mentoring.  You're done developing yourself, so develop others.

[Major Carrales]

Once your Professional Development is complete, then, one would ponder, that your energies and focus should now turn to service (which should have been the motivation for said development in the first place).

I was discussing this with one of our new members who is leading up our efforts in our joint CAP-BSA Venture Crew.   

It seems that the "culture" of professional develop for Senior Members and for Cadets is different.  Cadet advancement is found via the achievements.  Thus, like Scouts moving through the Program earning their way to Life then Eagle, the focus is on making it from achievement to achievement and, thus, up in grade.  Once a scout makes Eagle, there is the Order of the Arrow that focus on service.

Senior Member development is different.  There are five levels that are not seen through that same culture.  Most CAP Officers who join, to so for service to a unit or the greater efforts of CAP.  While the Wilson is prestigious, it has no where near the pomp of Spaatz or even the Mitchell.  In fact, I would venture to say that the Davis Leadership award is the most some garner, while the Loening (the level which I have attained) is the realm of those who are in their second decade of CAP service. 

I am aware of only two Garbers and know of no Wilsons that have ever served in my Unit.

So, now that all that is out of the way what is my advice?

Become a "project centered" CAP officer.  Offer to develop and lead projects in and around the unit or even in the Wing.  If you are doing so already, then you have it all!!!  Enjoy and thank you for you outstanding service to CAP!!!

[FW]

What more professional development is there in CAP now?

Mentoring.  You're done developing yourself, so develop others.

Yes, I agree.  Pass on what you have learned to others.  Keep it real, in perspective and, stay focused on what is right.

Oh, yeah, worry about OE when it finally is "ON TRACK" 

[bosshawk]

Sparky: do you count me among those who have earned the Garber?  I received mine last summer.  In fact, I earned the Davis, Loening and Garber all within the span of two or three months.  It helps that I had done most of the requirements throughout my CAP "career" and had all of the schooling requirements done through my past millitary schools.

[Major Carrales]

Sparky: do you count me among those who have earned the Garber?  I received mine last summer.  In fact, I earned the Davis, Loening and Garber all within the span of two or three months.  It helps that I had done most of the requirements throughout my CAP "career" and had all of the schooling requirements done through my past millitary schools.

Congrats...I had been unaware of that.  In my post I was making reference to two locals.  I, myself, need Region Staff College for obtain the Garber.

[ZigZag911]

Air War College correspondence program

[AlphaSigOU]

Don't forget this 'exiled' Texas Wing member 'serving time' in Kwajalein! Got my Garber back in July, before I shipped out here. (And copies of my cadet awards and senior PD certs hang proudly in my BQ wall - my originals are safely at home!)

[jimmydeanno]

I am aware of only two Garbers and know of no Wilsons that have ever served in my Unit.

In my wing, there are only 8 currently active members that have a Wilson Award (including me and my wife).  We were presented the certificates on Thursday and 6 of those 8 members were in the room because they attend our unit meetings.

I'm in the same situation as Spike.  27 years old, completed Level 5, have three master ratings, etc.  I'm about to be an "in limbo" member as we move across the country so I'm going to be looking for something new to do.  Maybe they'll be a Wing Commander slot open or something 

[Short Field]

At the last wing conference, the region commander made the statement that there are fewer Wilson awards than there are Spaatz awards.   I guess there have been around 2700 Wilson Awards.  How many Spaatz Awards?

[CadetProgramGuy]

In theory Professional Development is never over......

ICS Classes, FEMA Courses, Additional Specialty Tracks, ES Skill completions, ect.....

[SarDragon]

At the last wing conference, the region commander made the statement that there are fewer Wilson awards than there are Spaatz awards.   I guess there have been around 2700 Wilson Awards.  How many Spaatz Awards?

Middle 1700s.

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[PHall]

At the last wing conference, the region commander made the statement that there are fewer Wilson awards than there are Spaatz awards.   I guess there have been around 2700 Wilson Awards.  How many Spaatz Awards?

I think your Region Commander was referring to just your region.  As was posted above, Wilson's are at about 2700 while Spaatz's just hit 1800.

[Capt Rivera]

I'm about to be an "in limbo" member as we move across the country so I'm going to be looking for something new to do.  Maybe they'll be a Wing Commander slot open or something 

Where you moving to if you don't mind me asking?

[jimmydeanno]

Shreveport, LA.  My wife commissioned and is getting stationed at Barksdale...

[James Shaw]

I have finished Level V. I took SOS in place of Regional Staff College. I want to attend RSC in residence. I am also currently enrolled in ACSC. After RSC college I wont technically have any other PD classes to attend. I wouldnt mind going to Wing Commanders course for the experience but dont want to be a wing commander (not right now atleast, maybe 10 years from now).

I would like to be involved in training. I have been SLS / CLC curriculum director and trainer. I would like to be a seminar advisor at NSC or RSC (after attending RSC).

[AlphaSigOU]

Shreveport, LA.  My wife commissioned and is getting stationed at Barksdale...

Barkatraz!    There's an excellent CAP squadron there. Fifinella used to be a member of it.

[jimmydeanno]

Barkatraz!    There's an excellent CAP squadron there. Fifinella used to be a member of it.

She was a member of my NSC seminar.  We had a pretty good discussion about the area, etc.  Should be...interesting

[CadetProgramGuy]

Whats easier, SOS or RSC?  Either way I have 4 years to take either one.....

[James Shaw]

Whats easier, SOS or RSC?  Either way I have 4 years to take either one.....

I would say go RSC. You will spend less time at RSC for the entire week than you would for  all the time SOS takes.

[flyguy06]

RSC was the best non cadet related CAP actitivty Ihave attended thus far

[Chappie]

What more professional development is there in CAP now?

Mentoring.  You're done developing yourself, so develop others.

Wholeheartedly concur.   :clap: