Learning to fly in CAP

Started by ryan s, October 08, 2006, 02:31:00 AM

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SJFedor

Quote from: Psicorp on November 03, 2006, 07:47:35 PM
I was looking forward to it as well...who better to earn my PPL from than the people I will be flying with??   

I have a feeling it won't be an all inclusive "get your private fast" course. It'll probably be in line with the cadet NFA standards, 10-15 hours of flight time, ground instruction, solo if you're a good s'member. Definitely a good idea in my book.

They just need to make an addendum to the 60-1 that says "Senior National Flight Academy graduates may use CAP corporate aircraft to complete their private pilot training, with Wing Commander approval"

Or you guys can wait a year or so until I get my CFI. Spend the summer in Tennessee, pay for the aircraft, I'll fly and teach for free. Just buy pizza every now n then.

Steven Fedor, NREMT-P
Master Ambulance Driver
Former Capt, MP, MCPE, MO, MS, GTL, and various other 3-and-4 letter combinations
NESA MAS Instructor, 2008-2010 (#479)

BillB

Almost the same day they announced the cancellation, they announced that there were two flight scholarships available for seniors and two for cadets.
Gil Robb Wilson # 19
Gil Robb Wilson # 104

SJFedor

That was money that AOPA put up though, not National.

Steven Fedor, NREMT-P
Master Ambulance Driver
Former Capt, MP, MCPE, MO, MS, GTL, and various other 3-and-4 letter combinations
NESA MAS Instructor, 2008-2010 (#479)

Lancer

Hey SJFedor, thanks for all the words of wisdom. I was unaware of companies like Pilot Finance Inc., that's great, a great way to do it. Of course as much as I'd like to spend the summer in Tenn. next year, unless I became independently wealthy, that wouldn't be happening either. :-)

Besides, wifey has asked me to at least wait until the kids are grown before I start increasing my life threatening opportunities.  :angel:

Al Sayre

Yeah, those drives to and from the airport can be pretty dangerous...
Lt Col Al Sayre
MS Wing Staff Dude
Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska
GRW #2787

JohnKachenmeister

The cheapest way to go is to join a flying club, or a military Aero Club if you live near a base.
Another former CAP officer

SJFedor

Depends on the military aero club. I know the one at the base I used to live by was for active and former mil, and those who didn't have that, but were CAP members, had to be SAR/DR MP's to be able to join.

But if you can get to them, absolutely do it.

Steven Fedor, NREMT-P
Master Ambulance Driver
Former Capt, MP, MCPE, MO, MS, GTL, and various other 3-and-4 letter combinations
NESA MAS Instructor, 2008-2010 (#479)

exarmyguard

Quote from: lordmonar on November 02, 2006, 07:53:46 PM
This year they are offering a Powered Flight Academy for senior members.

Also....60-1 has to be updated because to address Light Sport Aircraft.  They are not technically ultralights.

Also...by the current regs a LSA plane could be use (depending on how you interpret it) but the pilot must still possess a PPL (RPL and SPL are not enough for a CAPF 5 check ride).

Any more info on the Powered Flight for senior members, plz?

arajca

Not at this time. One was proposed, but got shot down for unknown reasons.

sdcadet

Quote from: ande.boyer on November 02, 2006, 03:42:00 PM
Quote from: mlcurtis69 on November 01, 2006, 03:54:35 PM
How about us middle aged farts?  :P What CAP programs exist for us S'members who want to learn how to fly, if any.

We're left out in the cold on this one.  CAP has structure in place to teach cadets how to fly because it's "AE" and "encouraging interest in aviation in tomorrow's leaders."  For officers the emphasis is on recruiting (already certificated) pilots....not training new pilots.

Not neccesarily. SM are the only ones allowed to do SAR missions from the air, and (at least in my squadron), we're really trying to get SM mission certified and the whole deal. In regards to an academy for them though, none exists to my knowledge (outside of ES).

SarDragon

Quote from: sdcadet on January 06, 2007, 02:59:32 AM[stuff redacted] SM are the only ones allowed to do SAR missions from the air ...

Where does it say that?
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

Hotel 179

Quote from: SarDragon on January 06, 2007, 03:30:57 AM
Quote from: sdcadet on January 06, 2007, 02:59:32 AM[stuff redacted] SM are the only ones allowed to do SAR missions from the air ...

Where does it say that?

CAPR60-1 para2-6 says that Cadets must be 18 and qualified to participate in actual SAR missions....
Stephen Pearce, Capt/CAP
FL 424
Pensacola, Florida

DNall

Quote from: arajca on January 02, 2007, 03:51:12 AM
Not at this time. One was proposed, but got shot down for unknown reasons.
Thought there was an app for it under national special activities, deadline last month... no idea past that.

What exactly are the FAA restrictions by the way? CFI can't give lessons to 18+ in CAP planes? I mean I guess it's a fair trade for not needing CPL for mission flying, kinda sucks though.

sdcapmx

I like the earlier thread that said all of our CAP airplanes carry four people.  When is the last time you did a weight and balance on a new 182T and put four people in it.  Even to the bottom of the tabs on fuel you would be hard pressed to put four male adults in it.  Especially with the additional CAP equipment.  Maybe the pilot and three cadets but four adults.  Good luck.

bosshawk

Most of you folks  are not in Pacific Region, so don't know about the restriction on how many people can be put in the most prevalent aircraft in CAP.  PACR has a supplement to 60-1 which states what is commonly called the "60 horsepower rule".  What it essentially says is that you divide the horsepower of the aircraft by 60 to get the number of people who can be carried in the aircraft.  C-182 has 230 hp, so three people:  206 has 300 hp for takeoff, so if you are brave enough you can put 5 in it.  Because of the survival kit and other stuff carried on a routine basis, the Sq that I just came from removed the one seat in the third row of the 206: making it a four person plane.
Paul M. Reed
Col, USA(ret)
Former CAP Lt Col
Wilson #2777