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Operations => Aerospace Education => Topic started by: Allen on June 04, 2011, 05:02:47 PM

Title: Wing Director of AE
Post by: Allen on June 04, 2011, 05:02:47 PM
so my squadreon commander is currently the Indiana wing director of Aerospace............. what does that mean and how does it benefit our squadron
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: EMT-83 on June 04, 2011, 05:56:45 PM
I would guess that it means he's really into AE, and your squadron AE program rocks.
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: Allen on June 04, 2011, 06:16:30 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: davidsinn on June 04, 2011, 06:41:09 PM
Quote from: EMT-83 on June 04, 2011, 05:56:45 PM
I would guess that it means he's really into AE, and your squadron AE program rocks.

And that he's a really cool guy. I've met and worked with Maj Merrill.
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: GroundHawg on June 21, 2011, 07:59:48 PM
Im in the same boat, our wing AE is my squadron commander. Our AE is top shelf. He has forgotten more than I can expect to learn. Be a sponge and soak in the knowledge!
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: Eclipse on June 21, 2011, 08:24:05 PM
Both Squadron CC and Wing DAE are full time jobs which should not be shared by the same person.

Not only do the duties of both require the full attention of the member, doing it this way limits an opportunity for someone else.
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: Al Sayre on June 21, 2011, 08:28:38 PM
^^ Only if someone else wants the job...
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: Eclipse on June 21, 2011, 08:47:30 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on June 21, 2011, 08:28:38 PM
^^ Only if someone else wants the job...

Point taken, but that doesn't really change the dynamic, and double-billeting people is to the detriment of
both situations, and potentially sets up circular reporting structures that cause additional unforeseen consequences.

Wings properly grooming people and managing their CAP careers properly should always have a few people
"in the channel" ready to step up for their key roles.

If I ever find a wing doing the above, I'll let you guys know. 
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: NCRblues on June 21, 2011, 08:47:51 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 21, 2011, 08:24:05 PM
Both Squadron CC and Wing DAE are full time jobs which should not be shared by the same person.

Not only do the duties of both require the full attention of the member, doing it this way limits an opportunity for someone else.

How about the wing DCP, DAE AND a squadron commander... is that ok then  ;)
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: Eclipse on June 21, 2011, 08:48:42 PM
Quote from: NCRblues on June 21, 2011, 08:47:51 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 21, 2011, 08:24:05 PM
Both Squadron CC and Wing DAE are full time jobs which should not be shared by the same person.

Not only do the duties of both require the full attention of the member, doing it this way limits an opportunity for someone else.

How about the wing DCP, DAE AND a squadron commander... is that ok then

Even worse.
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: Phil Hirons, Jr. on June 21, 2011, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: NCRblues on June 21, 2011, 08:47:51 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 21, 2011, 08:24:05 PM
Both Squadron CC and Wing DAE are full time jobs which should not be shared by the same person.

Not only do the duties of both require the full attention of the member, doing it this way limits an opportunity for someone else.

How about the wing DCP, DAE AND a squadron commander... is that ok then  ;)

He / she must be independently wealthy and have no other interests outside CAP.
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: NCRblues on June 21, 2011, 08:52:58 PM
Quote from: phirons on June 21, 2011, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: NCRblues on June 21, 2011, 08:47:51 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 21, 2011, 08:24:05 PM
Both Squadron CC and Wing DAE are full time jobs which should not be shared by the same person.

Not only do the duties of both require the full attention of the member, doing it this way limits an opportunity for someone else.

How about the wing DCP, DAE AND a squadron commander... is that ok then  ;)

He / she must be independently wealthy and have no other interests outside CAP.

No, he also works a full time job...  >:(
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: JC004 on June 21, 2011, 11:08:45 PM
Maybe he is a highly effective leader who has trained a fantastic staff
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: Phil Hirons, Jr. on June 22, 2011, 05:16:51 PM
Quote from: JC004 on June 21, 2011, 11:08:45 PM
Maybe he is a highly effective leader who has trained a fantastic staff

Then I would say some of that staff should step up and take a lead role.
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: WT on June 22, 2011, 06:56:49 PM
How about Wing DO and Group Commander??
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: Eclipse on June 22, 2011, 09:21:44 PM
Quote from: WT on June 22, 2011, 06:56:49 PM
How about Wing DO and Group Commander??

Bad idea.
Title: Re: Wing Director of AE
Post by: jimmydeanno on June 22, 2011, 09:47:28 PM
So, Squadron, Group and Wing CDC/DCP is probably a no-go, too.  Nothing like being the one who is responsible for making sure you're doing things the right way...  ::)