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Started by grunt82abn, April 23, 2018, 08:51:23 PM

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grunt82abn

https://goo.gl/3iLd9j [censored]: 15 rules to effectively lead a platoon

Good article on leadership, even though it was by a fellow soldier, it fits across the board on leadership


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Sean Riley, TSGT
US Army 1987 to 1994, WIARNG 1994 to 2008
DoD Firefighter Paramedic 2000 to Present

PHall

If you know the difference between being a Leader and being a Manager then you know what leadership is.

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Quote from: PHall on April 24, 2018, 12:21:06 AM
If you know the difference between being a Leader and being a Manager then you know what leadership is.


"To begin with, we do not in the Army talk of "management", but of "leadership". This is significant. There is a difference between leadership and management. The leader and the men who follow him represent one of the oldest, most natural and most effective of all human relationships. The manager and those he manages are a later product, with neither so romantic nor so inspiring a history. Leadership is of the spirit compounded of personality and vision; its practice is an art. Management is of the mind, more a matter of accurate calculation, of statistics, of methods, time tables, and routine; its practice is a science. Managers are necessary; leaders are essential".

Field-Marshall Sir William Slim GCB, GCMG, GCVO, GBE, DSO, MC
Governor General of Australia (at the time he wrote this)
Published in the Australian Army Journal, September 1957, pp. 5-13

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Mitchell 1969

Quote from: PHall on April 24, 2018, 12:21:06 AM
If you know the difference between being a Leader and being a Manager then you know what leadership is.

True leaders can be managers. True managers can be leaders. When either happens, there is no difference.


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Quote from: PHall on April 24, 2018, 12:21:06 AM
If you know the difference between being a Leader and being a Manager then you know what leadership is.


"To begin with, we do not in the Army talk of "management", but of "leadership". This is significant. There is a difference between leadership and management. The leader and the men who follow him represent one of the oldest, most natural and most effective of all human relationships. The manager and those he manages are a later product, with neither so romantic nor so inspiring a history. Leadership is of the spirit compounded of personality and vision; its practice is an art. Management is of the mind, more a matter of accurate calculation, of statistics, of methods, time tables, and routine; its practice is a science. Managers are necessary; leaders are essential".

Field-Marshall Sir William Slim GCB, GCMG, GCVO, GBE, DSO, MC
Governor General of Australia (at the time he wrote this)
Published in the Australian Army Journal, September 1957, pp. 5-13

V/r
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Live2Learn

Quote from: grunt82abn on April 23, 2018, 08:51:23 PM
https://goo.gl/3iLd9j [censored]: 15 rules to effectively lead a platoon

Good article on leadership, even though it was by a fellow soldier, it fits across the board on leadership


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Very good read.  Thanks for posting.

TheSkyHornet

Quote from: Mitchell 1969 on April 24, 2018, 05:34:36 AM
Quote from: PHall on April 24, 2018, 12:21:06 AM
If you know the difference between being a Leader and being a Manager then you know what leadership is.

True leaders can be managers. True managers can be leaders. When either happens, there is no difference.


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This.

The U.S. Army specifically teaches that leadership is a behavior trait in managing resources and processes. The leadership aspect is how the management is accomplished.

grunt82abn

Spot on!!!


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US Army 1987 to 1994, WIARNG 1994 to 2008
DoD Firefighter Paramedic 2000 to Present

Jester

Quote from: grunt82abn on April 25, 2018, 03:57:35 PM
Spot on!!!


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You lead people and manage things. I've always argued that the best can do both and all should look to balance them.

As a squad leader, I had 3 fire teams of 4 people each, plus attachments. They were of course the priority, but I couldn't ignore my 4 trucks, weapons, ammo, comms, etc.

I cannot stand when people go out of their way to poo-poo management when it comes to leadership as if the two are mutually exclusive.

CAPLTC

Funny article. Infantry language may offend some.
Good synopsis from the 22-26 year old platoon leader perspective.
I'd offer different guidance to a company commander, different guidance to a battalion commander, and yet more different advice to a brigade commander...
"Find the enemy that wants to end this experiment (in American democracy) and kill every one of them until they're so sick of the killing that they leave us and our freedoms intact." -- SECDEF Mattis

kwe1009

Quote from: CAPLTC on May 04, 2018, 03:47:37 AM
Funny article. Infantry language may offend some.
Good synopsis from the 22-26 year old platoon leader perspective.
I'd offer different guidance to a company commander, different guidance to a battalion commander, and yet more different advice to a brigade commander...

Agreed.  Leadership responsibilities definitely change as you go up the food chain.

CAPLTC

Quote from: kwe1009 on May 04, 2018, 03:58:53 PM
Agreed.  Leadership responsibilities definitely change as you go up the food chain.

True that.
Time window varies too. Eh?
What I'd tell an O1 in the glory days of 2000-05 is FAR different than advice I'd offer today.
"Find the enemy that wants to end this experiment (in American democracy) and kill every one of them until they're so sick of the killing that they leave us and our freedoms intact." -- SECDEF Mattis

grunt82abn

How the message is delivered might change over time, but the traits of a good leader never do.


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