Updated CAPR 35-5 released today (11 Aug 14)

[a2capt]

No longer.  Just chief chaplain, lawyer, or IG.  All others were removed.

..as the current National Historian managed to just sneak under that wire. The whole historian program with the recent changes, "Chief" and all, seems like a spectacular gag to me. Total GOBN Extreme.

[LSThiker]

No longer.  Just chief chaplain, lawyer, or IG.  All others were removed.

..as the current National Historian managed to just sneak under that wire. The whole historian program with the recent changes, "Chief" and all, seems like a spectacular gag to me. Total GOBN Extreme.

In what way?

[SARDOC]

Just a coincidence that right around the time Region CVs got eagles, Regions started appointing more then one.

I thought I was the only one that noticed that one.

[Simplex]

I'm not sure if this is the proper place to plug this in but it relates to the original topic, so here goes.

Today I sent an e-mail to NHQ about my promotion status. I was eligible for Major 20 July 2014 but the promotion wasn't processed in a timely manner, the 11 Aug 2014 CAPR 35-5 took effect and I'm still a Captain. My inquiry was that I must now complete Level 4 for Major and the TIG would remain at 36 months.

The reply back from Susan Parker at NHQ states "Not under the revised grandfather clause---if your current date of grade is before 11 August 2014 you can have your next promotion under the old duty performance requirements. We put out a change to 35-5 last week."

So if my Squadron/CC submits the promotion, references the change to CAPR 35-5, I should make it....right? I do understand this is a one time only proposition.

Has anyone else dealt with this type of situation?

Thanks!

[vento]

^^ correct the old rules apply to you, once.

[Simplex]

Excellent, thanks for the response. I'll run it by the /CC tomorrow night.

[lordmonar]

Now here is the kicker
If yo back date you major to July. Then you are still under the old rules for Lt Col

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I'm set

[CAP_truth]

As of today, grandfather's clause has been instituted to senior members duty performance requirement in e-services.

[Simplex]

Roger that, I just checked eServices and all my requirements have gone back to prior 11 August 2014. Let's hope for the best!

[CAPAPRN]

We just promoted two captains under the old rules, they were promotable 11Aug, we put that in as the date and eservices took it. It also seems like eservices is now setup for the grandfathering (it wasn't last week)

Also- this NCO one per squadron-group-wing is a recipe for a political disaster. Thankfully we converted most of our to the officer corps when we still could get them an advanced grade.

[lordmonar]

IMHO the advanced grade for SNCO was a complete insult...but there you go.

[Storm Chaser]

IMHO the advanced grade for SNCO was a complete insult...but there you go.

Why?

[lordmonar]

IMHO the advanced grade for SNCO was a complete insult...but there you go.

Why?

MSgt comes in as a 2d Lt....CMSgt came in as a Capt......A Mitchell cadet comes in as a 2d Lt and Spaatz comes in as Capt......now what is wrong with that picture?

But I was not that butt hurt about it.....but really. 

[Storm Chaser]

IMHO the advanced grade for SNCO was a complete insult...but there you go.

Why?

MSgt comes in as a 2d Lt....CMSgt came in as a Capt......A Mitchell cadet comes in as a 2d Lt and Spaatz comes in as Capt......now what is wrong with that picture?

But I was not that butt hurt about it.....but really. 

I see your point. That said, if a MSgt, SMSgt or CMSgt pursues a commission in the Air Force (although not common, I've seen it happened), he/she would also be commissioned as a 2d Lt after completing OTS (I know, CAP is not the Air Force).

Maybe we should reconsider all these different advanced appointments/promotions. But I doubt we'll ever reach a consensus.

[lordmonar]

Ahhhh....but CAP is not the USAF....so that point is not really germain.

Either way...it is all moot as there are no more advanced promotions for NCOs.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

^^In the other four services, such a one would more likely be promoted to Warrant Officer.  I think the Navy and Coast Guard require a minimum of E-7 to be "warranted."

Of course, the Air Force (inexplicably) does not have them, and neither does CAP.

[lordmonar]

^^In the other four services, such a one would more likely be promoted to Warrant Officer.  I think the Navy and Coast Guard require a minimum of E-7 to be "warranted."

Of course, the Air Force (inexplicably) does not have them, and neither does CAP.

Apples and oranges......warrents are not commissioned line officers.....even in the army and and navy you would not necessary go from E-7 to WO-1  they are two different tracks with different requirements.

And yes the USAF does not use WO grades......but it has been that way for 30 years now.....we do just fine with out them.

[Panache]

Apples and oranges......warrents are not commissioned line officers

W-2's and up are, indeed, commissioned officers.

[SarDragon]

In the Canoe Club, the two usual E -> O tracks are Warrant Officer, and LDO (Limited Duty Officer).

SNCOs from E-7 to E-9 can promote into the Warrant Officer program.

NCOs from E-6 to E-8 can promote into the LDO program.