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Red Beret?

Started by go4spaatz, September 05, 2013, 09:03:21 PM

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go4spaatz

I just saw this in the NBB newsletters:
http://www.ncsas.com/file.cfm/media/cms/Volume_10_Issue_2_19C4AD41B2729.pdf (page 3)

Anyone know about the red pancake on the C/Lt. Col?  ;D
It looks like the flash is the St. Alban's cross, but, what's it for?
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jeders

That's a blue beret, not a red one. The lighting of the photo just makes it look redish.
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Storm Chaser

I'm pretty sure that CAPM 39-1 states that only blue berets are authorized in CAP. I don't know what this maroon beret means, but it is likely this cadet is out of uniform.

Storm Chaser


Quote from: jeders on September 05, 2013, 09:06:23 PM
That's a blue beret, not a red one. The lighting of the photo just makes it look redish.

If that's the case, then the PAO responsible for this shouldn't have used this picture, as it gives the wrong impression.

Eclipse

Quote from: jeders on September 05, 2013, 09:06:23 PM
That's a blue beret, not a red one. The lighting of the photo just makes it look redish.

+1 - look close and at different angles on the monitor.

Someone needs to clean the lens on their cell phone.

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Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: Eclipse on September 05, 2013, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: jeders on September 05, 2013, 09:06:23 PM
That's a blue beret, not a red one. The lighting of the photo just makes it look redish.

+1 - look close and at different angles on the monitor.

Someone needs to clean the lens on their cell phone.

I was drinking soda...now it's all over my desk.

NIN

Its the angle of the sun in the pic thats causing that. I had to look closely too.

Cuz I would have sworn it was maroon.

Its not.

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NCRblues

It is a blue beret he has on.

The pin is the small st albuns pin that was discontinued after NBB 2007.
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lordmonar

Quote from: Storm Chaser on September 05, 2013, 09:10:51 PM

Quote from: jeders on September 05, 2013, 09:06:23 PM
That's a blue beret, not a red one. The lighting of the photo just makes it look redish.

If that's the case, then the PAO responsible for this shouldn't have used this picture, as it gives the wrong impression.
Disagree.  But they you go.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

a2capt

Really? That much of a contrast difference between the two, and even the red on the shoulder patch is, well, perfectly red. The rest of the uniform is the right color. Only the beret turns perfectly .. not blue?

Is it a really old one, that is uniformly reacting to the light? That's just weird.

Eclipse

#10
The whole upper left of the photo is skewing into the red because of the sun.  Those pancakes
are all but purple as it is in the right light.

The haze, which is likely caused by "sweaty iphone syndrome" isn't helping.



As long as we're discussing the newsletter, one might wonder if the good people at MouseWorks
approved of the use of their IP.

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lordmonar

Are we all sitting here contemplating that ONE....ONE cadet at NBlueB was sporting a Red Beret and this is the first we hear about it?

Are we also contemplating that the NBB staff, who are already protective our their berets, would allow someone to step so far outside the regulations that they KNOW it would cause and out roar from the anti beret crowd?

And then be stupid enough to post it in their own newsletter?

No.....this is just a color problem with the photo.

PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

Luis R. Ramos

The sun seems to be falling in the same way on the female cadet's beret.

I am at a loss to explain why the color shift on his beret, yet cannot accept the explanation that "the sun is shinning on his beret," when it shines the same way on her. See the shine on both their faces. And cannot accept he was wearing a red beret on purpose also for the reasons Lord posts...

Will a blue beret exposed to sun and elements fade this bad to red...?

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jeders

Quote from: flyer333555 on September 06, 2013, 01:23:06 AM
I am at a loss to explain why the color shift on his beret, yet cannot accept the explanation that "the sun is shinning on his beret," when it shines the same way on her. See the shine on both their faces. And cannot accept he was wearing a red beret on purpose also for the reasons Lord posts...

Because it's not how the sun is falling, it's because the sun is just outside the photo near his head. The picture looks like closing formation, so you're looking at dusk. The sun is low and just out of frame.
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jimmydeanno

Yep, the camera is messing up the color balance because the bright sky is touching his beret.  The other one is touching the darker colors in the photo. 

Everything in the upper third of the picture is washed out from the overexposure.
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Luis R. Ramos

The two cadets are so close together that anything affecting him should affect her equally...

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Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: flyer333555 on September 06, 2013, 02:13:04 AM
The two cadets are so close together that anything affecting him should affect her equally...

Flyer

This isn't The Force. It's photography.

Luis R. Ramos

Exactly because it is photography I find so hard to accept that explanation. It should affect her beret as well... Even if not entirely, at least partially.

Flyer
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Squadron Communication Officer
Squadron Emergency Services Officer

NCRblues

For real?? Is this really going on...

Considering I was maybe MAYBE 30 foot away from the formation when this was taken, he was wearing a BLUE beret.... The outstanding cadet in question was on staff and did an amazing job...

Anyone who thinks I would allow a cadet at NBB to wear an unauthorized red beret, or anyone on beret staff for that matter, is crazy...

It's a blue beret...

In god we trust, all others we run through NCIC

Eclipse

Quote from: flyer333555 on September 06, 2013, 02:13:04 AM
The two cadets are so close together that anything affecting him should affect her equally...

Not necessarily.  Depending on the camera, this is pretty common.

The CCD's get overwhelmed and the white balance goes nuts.

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