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Started by Cms.sloane, May 23, 2010, 04:28:05 AM

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Fly Boy

Seeing as I had to WORK, SCRAPING Pigeon feces in the hot, humid Florida weather, to pay for my flight lessons, I'm not going to say anything more.

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DakRadz

#21
Quote from: JThemann on June 05, 2010, 07:12:45 PM
Don't forget it was a 'CMS' who said all this too.

Those are his initials, thank heavens..

Quote from: a2capt on May 24, 2010, 12:05:59 AM
I have some concern about what might possibly be going on in a particular unit ..

Of course, we can only go by what we read here:

Wings, for O-Rides?
..cadet wanting advice on how to sneak food into encampment. (It's not like they starve you there, like it's SERE school or anything)
..cadet indicating that things are settled "fist to face" and not by debate, reason or common sense. (search for that phrase)

What is really going on?

I can't speak for Cobb County, but all of GAWG isn't like this. And judging by the amount of command attention Cobb received this year which *I'M* aware of (often hosting activities), I think this cadet is perhaps overzealous and/or idiotically immature.

The food deal, I can see many cadets thinking that (happened at a JROTC camp- they [well, Gunny] nicknamed him "Pop-Tart")- Sloane just went to far with putting it on the web/asking at all. Plus the encampment CC seeing it XD

I have NEVER settled anything "fist to face", and I'm GAWG. But that was pretty obvious anyway.

CCAlex

I wish i could find this unit :'(

SarDragon

Quote from: CCAlex on July 28, 2010, 04:35:10 AM
I wish i could find this unit :'(

What on Earth for? It's a REALLY long commute from CA.
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CCAlex

that's very true since the wings they give out aren't legit anyways.

Rafael

I think going to the Glider Academy for getting the solo or pre-solo wings.

DakRadz

Seriously, this needs to die.

Rafael- any cadet can get solo wings if they complete a check ride and such in a CAP aircraft. They must already have a PPL to do this.

Pre-solo wings of any sort require going to a National Flight Academy (NFA).

I know. I looked it up when I first joined >:D

ßτε

Quote from: DakRadz on August 03, 2010, 02:29:51 AM
- any cadet can get solo wings if they complete a check ride and such in a CAP aircraft. They must already have a PPL to do this.
You are mistaken. See CAPR 60-1 para. 3-7a.
If a cadet with a PPL completes a check ride, they earn CAP Pilot wings, not solo wings.

Quote from: DakRadz on August 03, 2010, 02:29:51 AM
Pre-solo wings of any sort require going to a National Flight Academy (NFA).

I know. I looked it up when I first joined >:D
Note that CAPR 60-1 no longer has reference to pre-solo wings.

DakRadz

#28
Correct. My mistake, it's too late for me.

Solo wings require that your log book shows you have soloed in an aircraft. I still haven't referenced the regs, so I'm not sure if you have to have a certain number, but I believe it's just when your log book says you have successfully soloed.

Pre-solo wings were in the reg last time I looked at it (months). They did indeed require NFA attendance, and were basically ground school wings (being that you didn't solo) for cadets who had the solo know-how, without the chance to solo.

Credit for correction to SarDragon.

SarDragon

The requirement for pre-solo wings was to accomplish all solo tasks unassisted, with the CFI in the plane. This had to be done at an NFA. It was a consolation prize for those attendees who didn't have the opportunity to solo, who were otherwise qualified.
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tsrup

Quote from: DakRadz on August 03, 2010, 02:44:38 AM
Correct. My mistake, it's too late for me.

Solo wings require that your log book shows you have soloed in an aircraft. I still haven't referenced the regs, so I'm not sure if you have to have a certain number, but I believe it's just when your log book says you have successfully soloed.


That and and the endorsement on the student pilot certificate. 

Otherwise thats just a whole 'nother can of worms.   :o
Paramedic
hang-around.

Cms.sloane

Just to clearify with everbody, Cobb Composite Squadron is not like this. We don't just pass out wings like it is a free sale. At the point in which I posted this I was a brand new basic. I didn't know anything really. Hint hint the past post about COWG and the fist to fist.

To be honest ant those points in my life I was real immature. I am now a NCO and use learned a great deal of leadership and matureity :). I had sen many cadets with the glider wings and wing events and was just wondering how you get them.

Also Cobb has been geting a whole bunch of attention this year for hosting events. I helped or came up and organized most of those events. Just a small side note.

tsrup

#32
Quote from: Cms.sloane on August 03, 2010, 03:51:37 AM
At the point in which I posted this I was a brand new basic.

To be honest ant those points in my life I was real immature. I am now a NCO and use learned a great deal of leadership and matureity :).

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« on: May 22, 2010, 11:28:05 PM »

Been a long few months yes?

Basic to NCO in less than 3 months?

edit: not impossible, basic, next day a1c, next month Sra, next month NCO.

assuming JROTC.


its all needless nitpicking anyways, back to the OT. 
Paramedic
hang-around.

SarDragon

I was going to jump on that, too, but figured out that it takes at least a couple of months to get in five glider O-rides.
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Cms.sloane

I'm a senior airman in CAP ( I promote to staff sergent in a week). I hold a DDR postion and flight sergent postion. I hold those because I'm good at what I do.

In NJROTC I am a master cheif petty office. I hold that because I'm also good at hat I do.

So could people stop bashing me on everything I do. If you really have a issue or problem with me then send me a pm and were talk in private. ( this is said with all due respect to seniors and   Officers).

ßτε

Quote from: tsrup on August 03, 2010, 03:11:03 AM
Quote from: DakRadz on August 03, 2010, 02:44:38 AM
Correct. My mistake, it's too late for me.

Solo wings require that your log book shows you have soloed in an aircraft. I still haven't referenced the regs, so I'm not sure if you have to have a certain number, but I believe it's just when your log book says you have successfully soloed.


That and and the endorsement on the student pilot certificate. 

Otherwise thats just a whole 'nother can of worms.   :o

And the endorsement must be from a CAP Instructor Pilot.

tsrup

Quote from: bte on August 03, 2010, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: tsrup on August 03, 2010, 03:11:03 AM
Quote from: DakRadz on August 03, 2010, 02:44:38 AM
Correct. My mistake, it's too late for me.

Solo wings require that your log book shows you have soloed in an aircraft. I still haven't referenced the regs, so I'm not sure if you have to have a certain number, but I believe it's just when your log book says you have successfully soloed.


That and and the endorsement on the student pilot certificate. 

Otherwise thats just a whole 'nother can of worms.   :o

And the endorsement must be from a CAP Instructor Pilot.

concur
Paramedic
hang-around.

viperred396

Quote from: tsrup on August 03, 2010, 07:08:09 PM
Quote from: bte on August 03, 2010, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: tsrup on August 03, 2010, 03:11:03 AM
Quote from: DakRadz on August 03, 2010, 02:44:38 AM
Correct. My mistake, it's too late for me.

Solo wings require that your log book shows you have soloed in an aircraft. I still haven't referenced the regs, so I'm not sure if you have to have a certain number, but I believe it's just when your log book says you have successfully soloed.


That and and the endorsement on the student pilot certificate. 

Otherwise thats just a whole 'nother can of worms.   :o

And the endorsement must be from a CAP Instructor Pilot.

concur

cite reg?

tsrup

Quote from: viperred396 on August 03, 2010, 09:17:16 PM
Quote from: tsrup on August 03, 2010, 07:08:09 PM
Quote from: bte on August 03, 2010, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: tsrup on August 03, 2010, 03:11:03 AM
Quote from: DakRadz on August 03, 2010, 02:44:38 AM
Correct. My mistake, it's too late for me.

Solo wings require that your log book shows you have soloed in an aircraft. I still haven't referenced the regs, so I'm not sure if you have to have a certain number, but I believe it's just when your log book says you have successfully soloed.


That and and the endorsement on the student pilot certificate. 

Otherwise thats just a whole 'nother can of worms.   :o

And the endorsement must be from a CAP Instructor Pilot.

concur

cite reg?

CAPR 60-1
Section 3-7
Quote
3-7. Classification of CAP Pilots. CAP pilots may operate a CAP aircraft according to the classification of their experience and skills as follows:
a.   CAP Solo Pilot. (1)   Possess a current student pilot certificate with solo endorsements in accordance
with 14 CFR Part 61 from a CAP Instructor Pilot in the make and model aircraft flown.
Paramedic
hang-around.

tsrup

and to nip the next question in the bud, here's this too:

From CAPR 35-6

Quote
1.   Aeronautical Ratings and Requirements. Requirements for CAP-member aeronautical ratings are:
a.   CAP Cadet Pre-solo Rating: Be qualified in accordance with CAPR 60-1.
b.   CAP Solo Pilot Rating: Be qualified in accordance with CAPR 60-1.
Paramedic
hang-around.