National Commander's Suspension Coming to an end Sunday

[Tubacap]

huh?

[Matt]

huh?

How many kids with....

Lets go ride a bike...

[PHall]

So if there was actually a BoG meeting today, when can we expect to hear anything about what was discussed?

When they have made a decision and they decide to release it to the membership.
As for hearing about what was discussed. They're talking about an active IG Investigation.
That stuff is usually kept on a need to know basis because of privacy concerns.

[SDF_Specialist]

"When it's done."

Very creative. I like it.

[floridacyclist]

News just came in via email. Pineda is gone. Courter is in.

MAXWELL AIR FORCE BASE, Ala. – The Civil Air Patrol's Board of Governors, in a teleconference Tuesday night, voted to remove Maj. Gen. Antonio J. Pineda from his position as CAP national commander. 

The board's action comes two months after the chairman of the Board of Governors, Maj. Gen. Richard Bowling, announced the 11-member board had suspended the CAP national commander for a period of up to 180 days. The suspension occurred after the board convened a special Aug. 5 meeting to receive the initial CAP Inspector General's Report of Investigation concerning allegations that a CAP Florida Wing member took U.S. Air Force Air Command and Staff College tests for Pineda in 2002 and 2003.

"This action was taken after careful review of the facts and circumstances and after numerous discussions of the report of the investigation against Gen. Pineda," said Bowling.

Vice Commander Brig. Gen. Amy S. Courter, who has served as acting national commander since Pineda was suspended by the Board of Governors on Aug. 5, now takes leadership of the Civil Air Patrol as interim commander as prescribed in the CAP Constitution and Bylaws. She will hold the position until the August 2008 CAP board meeting, where members will vote to select a new commander.  Courter is eligible to run for the position.

[Nomex Maximus]

OK, so when will the cap.gov webpage change? Within the hour? A day? A week? Who's taking bets?

[CAP_truth]

Don't know.

[capchiro]

cap.gov webpage is changed to reflect that Pineda is out..that is all..

[Capt M. Sherrod]

I'm curious, it just says that he has been removed from the position.  It does not address the status of his membership in the organization.

[CAPSGT]

Well, we can now call it official.  The full press release is on the NHQ website.

http://www.cap.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=display&nodeID=6192&newsID=3580&year=2007&month=10

[A.Member]

Well, we can now call it official.  The full press release is on the NHQ website.

http://www.cap.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=display&nodeID=6192&newsID=3580&year=2007&month=10

And there was joy throughout the land (or at least within CAP )! 

Here's to wishing Gen. Courter a successful and uneventful remainder of her term.  Hopefully, she can make some progress in helping the organization get refocused.

[SDF_Specialist]

Understood that he was removed from Command, but is he out completely?


Good Luck Brig. Gen. Courter while completeing what Tony Pineda couldn't do!!

[Chaplaindon]

Well, we can now call it official.  The full press release is on the NHQ website.

http://www.cap.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=display&nodeID=6192&newsID=3580&year=2007&month=10

And there was joy! 

Here's to wishing Gen. Courter a successful and uneventful remainder of her term.  Hopefully, she can make some progress in helping the organization refocused.

Frankly, here's to hoping/praying that this IS the end of the mess. That there's not to be subsequent lawsuits, depositions, divisive squabbling and triangulation, blog-warfare and so forth.

If this is the FINAL resolution/ajudication of the matter following significant and objective deliberation by the BoG, excellent.

Maybe the "bleeding" (of members, of morale, of reputation/rapport with the USAF) will soon stop.

On the other hand, if this is just "round-1" in a to-be ongoing fight between our former National Commander and/or his allies in and out of CAP and the BOG/NEC/NB/NHQ, it will be a tragedy.

Hopefully, this is the end; a good, wise, and just end at that.

[Major Carrales]

Well, we can now call it official.  The full press release is on the NHQ website.

http://www.cap.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=display&nodeID=6192&newsID=3580&year=2007&month=10

And there was joy! 

Here's to wishing Gen. Courter a successful and uneventful remainder of her term.  Hopefully, she can make some progress in helping the organization refocused.

Frankly, here's to hoping/praying that this IS the end of the mess. That there's not to be subsequent lawsuits, depositions, divisive squabbling and triangulation, blog-warfare and so forth.

If this is the FINAL resolution/ajudication of the matter following significant and objective deliberation by the BoG, excellent.

Maybe the "bleeding" (of members, of morale, of reputation/rapport with the USAF) will soon stop.

On the other hand, if this is just "round-1" in a to-be ongoing fight between our former National Commander and/or his allies in and out of CAP and the BOG/NEC/NB/NHQ, it will be a tragedy.

Hopefully, this is the end; a good, wise, and just end at that.

I really hope this is the end.  We really need to move on and focus our energies on promoting the CAP to the Nation as an organization that can accomplish, to Quote Generla Richard Anderson, "Missions for America."

There are those, however, that I fear will not let this die. 

[MIKE]

"When will the website change" topic merged.

[JohnKachenmeister]

I'm listening and I hope to hear it...


The sound of a female voice, sweetly singing a long operatic aria...


And the singer being an overweight, buxom woman, wearing a Viking helmet.



Yes, it isn't over until the fat lady sings, but I'm hoping that this is the melody!

[Nomex Maximus]

What about a bunch of little people singing, "Ding, dong the ..."

[Skyray]

Sure sounds like the fat lady singing, Bac Si.

It has been previously discussed here that the BoG's marble bag seems to have a big hole in it, and it seems to dump right at Skip Munger's back door.  The National website addresses the issue of command, but the individual notice I got this morning said command, rank and membership.  I see a couple of possibilities.  Once someone is no longer in the chain, their membership status is none of our business, along with their rank.  So there is a good argument that would not be appropriate for posting on the web site.  My dispatch may be correct.  The other possibility is that the information is incorrect.  Either way, following Ecclesiastes, it is time to rebuild.

[Cmdbuddy]

"Singing GLORIOUS, VICTORIOUS, one keg of (ermmm... juice?) for the four of us!" 

I was awoken at 0500 with this news, but I wasn't upset at all!

[floridacyclist]

And glory be to God that there are no more of us,
'cause one of us could drink it all alone
Pass the juice
to the rear
of the squaaaadron

Something just doesn't sound right