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Started by usafcap1, April 10, 2012, 03:44:47 AM

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usafcap1

A few years back I want to Dayton, Ohio. I was wearing full BDUs only because by the time I would have gotten there it would be time I would ready for CAP in Dayton, non the less that's a different story. But while I was getting off the plane someone showed me the way to the USO Office. So I guess my question is can CAP members take part of the USO Office as well?
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I would not recommend it. The USO is an adult environment.
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usafcap1

Quote from: SarDragon on April 10, 2012, 04:15:56 AM
I would not recommend it. The USO is an adult environment.

Adult environment?
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Flying Pig

Yes.... Adult environment.  Alcohol served.  Not porn.    All the USOs Ive been to were basically a bar atmosphere.  Its a place for big kids. 

Regardless, Cadet or Senior, CAP absolutely should not take advantage of the USO.  Its for service members only.

usafcap1

ooooohhhhh I gotcha. but what if I  was a SM in full CAP BDUs.





sorry for all my questions I just don't want mess up, so I cover every thing.
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Flying Pig

Quote from: Flying Pig on April 10, 2012, 04:49:22 AM
Quote from: Flying Pig on April 10, 2012, 04:45:29 AM
Yes.... Adult environment.  Alcohol served.  Not porn.    All the USOs Ive been to were basically a bar atmosphere.  Its a place for big kids. 

Regardless, Cadet or Senior, CAP absolutely should not take advantage of the USO.  Its for service members only.

The USO is not for CAP.  At all, ever.

Noble Six

The USO is a non-profit organization, we are here to serve personnel in all branches of the military- active duty, National Guard, reserve, retirees, and authorized family members.
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usafcap1

Quote from: Flying Pig on April 10, 2012, 04:49:44 AM
Quote from: Flying Pig on April 10, 2012, 04:49:22 AM
Quote from: Flying Pig on April 10, 2012, 04:45:29 AM
Yes.... Adult environment.  Alcohol served.  Not porn.    All the USOs Ive been to were basically a bar atmosphere.  Its a place for big kids. 

Regardless, Cadet or Senior, CAP absolutely should not take advantage of the USO.  Its for service members only.

The USO is not for CAP.  At all, ever.

Roger
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Flying Pig

Now if your in the military.....AND in CAP.  Then Yes.  You just may have some clarifying to do.

Noble Six

Thats easy just show your CAC card or DDform 2, no reason to even show a cap card.
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PHall

The only reason a CAP member should be in a USO is if they're volunteering there. And NOT in uniform!!!

FlyTiger77

Quote from: usafcap1 on April 10, 2012, 03:44:47 AM
So I guess my question is can CAP members take part of the USO Office as well?

No.


USO is one of my most favorite organizations in the world.
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bflynn

The USO is one of my favorite organizations too - they are constantly on the list of charities I donate to.  They mission is to help military service members with a focus on those away from home and/or overseas.  Like the CAP, the USO was created during WWII to help focus the energy of multiple charity groups attempting to assist service members.

Although many have already said it, I will again - the Civil Air Patrol is a civilian organization, so going to a USO facility would be inappropriate.


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Quote from: Sgt. Fischer on May 01, 2012, 06:16:31 PM
No!

Thank you for your constructive input.

Seriously, you don't need to add to your post count - it doesn't matter.

If you don't have anything to add, then just read and move on.

754837

How wise was it wearing a CAP uniform on a commercial flight that, I assume, had nothing to do with CAP business?   It is almost misleading...

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Quote from: 754837 on May 01, 2012, 09:39:41 PM
How wise was it wearing a CAP uniform on a commercial flight that, I assume, had nothing to do with CAP business?   It is almost misleading...

First, NEVER assume.

39-1 doesn't prohibit it.  It would be misleading if you deliberately tried to pass yourself off as a USAF officer.  Otherwise, there are enough CAP identifiers on the uniform to distinguish us, unless someone chooses not to read them.

Quote from: usafcap1 on April 10, 2012, 04:48:29 AM
ooooohhhhh I gotcha. but what if I  was a SM in full CAP BDUs.

You shouldn't be in an airport in BDU's.  I know it seems to be the trend for military members to do that (I couldn't tell you the last time I saw an Army officer, NCO or EM in anything but ACU's) but for us BDU's are strictly a work/duty/utility uniform.  In an airport environment, you should be in blues or aviator G/W.

Quote from: PHall on April 10, 2012, 05:00:30 AM
The only reason a CAP member should be in a USO is if they're volunteering there. And NOT in uniform!!!

Unless authorised by higher authority.  But, no, you do not just walk into a USO facility in your service dress and say "here I am."
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swanny

First off to get this straight, currently the USO's do not serve alcohol at their airport locations. Also, from visiting over 25 USO locations, I have yet to see them set up as a bar. This would be totally opposite of what their mission is. You may be thinking of the VFW or American Legion. 

In an OCONUS environment all CAP squadron members would be authorized to visit and utilize the USO's at their base. Members of CAP overseas must have SOFA status which would authorize them unlimited exchange, commissary, etc. The proof of SOFA would be determined by their CAC ID. In CONUS CAP members would only be able to utilize the USO's if they fall under the previous mentioned categories below.

all branches of the military- active duty, National Guard, reserve, retirees, and authorized family members

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Quote from: Flying Pig on April 10, 2012, 04:49:44 AM
Quote from: Flying Pig on April 10, 2012, 04:49:22 AM
Quote from: Flying Pig on April 10, 2012, 04:45:29 AM
Yes.... Adult environment.  Alcohol served.  Not porn.    All the USOs Ive been to were basically a bar atmosphere.  Its a place for big kids. 

Regardless, Cadet or Senior, CAP absolutely should not take advantage of the USO.  Its for service members only.

The USO is not for CAP.  At all, ever.

I beg to differ.

The USO is for whomever USO decides it is for. I am not aware of them declaring that Internet forum posters had been delegated that responsibility on their behalf.

I coordinated outbound and inbound IACE at LAX for many years. The executive director of the LAX USO continually offered it to CAP as an assembly, briefing and general "kick back" facility. His offer was taken up many times, especially by cadets facing long layovers after their escorts had departed for home.

Now, that doesn't mean that any CAP member should feel free to quote this post and drop in at their local USO. But it does mean that <<The USO is not for CAP.  At all, ever>> is not a completely accurate statement.
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