Wings that don't have Groups

[Angus]

A comment I made on a thread over in ES got me to wondering.  How many Wings don't have Groups?  I know MAWG and RIWG for a fact don't.  Are there any others? 

[Phil Hirons, Jr.]

I know CTWG does not. VT, NH and ME don't have enough squadrons to have groups. (5 per group, 2 group min = 10 squadrons beside Wing HQ). That's 2/3 of NER.

[lordmonar]

NVWG does not....but they sort of operate like they do.

All our wing positions have a North and South director.  We used to have a CV north and CV south.

[Cool Mace]

OKWG does not have groups any more. We used to, but that changed about 5 (give or take) years ago.

[Al Sayre]

MS Wing also does not have groups.

[ZigZag911]

In NER only NJ, NY and PA have groups.

The other six wings -- CT MA ME NH RI VT -- do not.

[CAPC/officer125]

KSWG does not.

[Duke Dillio]

OR wing does not have a group structure.  IIRC, there are like 14 units in the wing.

[NEBoom]

Nebraska Wing also does not have Groups.

[AirDX]

HIWG does not.

[stillamarine]

ALWG does not.

[lordmonar]

I know CTWG does not. VT, NH and ME don't have enough squadrons to have groups. (5 per group, 2 group min = 10 squadrons beside Wing HQ). That's 2/3 of NER.

I wonder where you get those numbers?

1) Having groups is not dependant on the number of squadorns....(you need at least 2).
2) Just because 2 squadrons in one part of the state form into a group does not mean that you have to for the rest of the squadrons into a group as well.

Here is a theoritical example.

A large geograpical state with a low population (say Nevada).

2/3 of the wing's squadrons are located near two large cites 6 hours apart by car. (say Reno and Las Vegas).
The rest of the state is isolated squadrons.

Reno and/or Las Vegas could form a group...to capitolize on shared resources, exercise planning, training opportunites, AE consolidation etc....while the remaining squadron continue to report directly to the Wing CC.  This reduces the work load on the wing commander.....he only has 10 squadrons and 2 group commanders reporting to him....instead of 30 squadron commanders.

YMMV.

[lordmonar]

Here is the count so far:

With Groups(14):
COWG
CAWG
GLWG
TXWG
NJWG
NYWG
PAWG
ILWG
WIWG
INWG
TNWG
GAWG
PRWG
OHWG
MIWG

With out groups (16):
AKWG
MAWG
RIWG
CTWG
VTWG
NHWG
MEWG
NVWG
OKWG
MSWG
KSWG
ORWG
NEWG
HIWG
ALWG
IDWG

Who's missing:
NDWG
SDWG
IOWG
MOWG
ARWG
MIWG
KYWG
WAWG
UTWG
NMWG
LAWG
WVWG
VAWG
NAT CAP WG
SCWG
NCWG
DLWG
MNWG
WOWG
AZWG

Did I miss any?

[Eclipse]

ILWG, WIWG, & INWG have groups.

[JeffDG]

In SER, all the wings, except for MS, have groups, so that's TN,GA,FL,AL,and PR

[Eclipse]

ILWG, WIWG, & INWG have groups.

You need to add INWG to "have" - I don't know about Idaho.

[Eclipse]

OHWG and MIWG have groups.

[NC Hokie]

NCWG and VAWG have groups.

[BuckeyeDEJ]

West Virginia doesn't, speaking as a former member there.

As for Florida, there's seven. The largest -- Group 3, in the seven-county area from the mouth of Tampa Bay north and east -- has 1,000 members. That's bigger than many wings, wouldn't you say?

[Ed Bos]

AKWG does not have Groups.

Oops, I see that was already counted.