PAWG shuts down

[FW]

As I've heard it, aircraft and vehicle inspections are complete.  However, only about 50% of the members in PAWG have completed "10 Sec. ORM"  and reported it.

[mikeylikey]

but definitely still under the Orange Hat!

hahahhah hahaha hahahaha   :clap:

Thats a good one Will!

[Big_Ed]

 

50%?

We've been working for months on getting everyone up to date with OPSEC.   50% in one week, I don't think so. 

[FW]

The wing staff sent emails to every address on record.  They got a 50% response rate within 1 week. 

[mikeylikey]

^ They did?

Everyone I talk to say no such email came.  That would include Wing Staff and Group Staff and SQD Commanders. 

[MattPHS2002]

I never got the e-mail, I got the info from other sources.

[JC004]

mine came from the comm training list...nothing general

[FW]

I got one and took the course too.  And I'm not associated with PAWG anymore.

[A.Member]

Some interesting safety notes on PAWG:
The wing has not had a mission related fatality or serious injury in over 30 years.
No wing wide aircraft or vehicle maint. issues; ever.
Four Turner Awards in the last 11 years.

So, hopefully the lesson learned here is that it doesn't matter what you did 30 years ago. 

You're only as good as your last safety inspection - and that's the way it should be. 

Hopefully the PAWG gets their act together and starts taking things a lot more seriously.   What's more, I hope other Wings are paying attention and ensure their houses in order too.

This is a mass email I received                  C-

Commanders,

Unfortunately I had to ground Pennsylvania Wing yesterday, because of there their unsatisfactory grade in safety on theretheir CI inspection. All aircraft and vehicles are grounded, all training and emergency missions are suspended. I am going to do every thinkthing in my power to get Pennsylvania up and running as fast as possible. I will be asking for your help to see this through and I know we can get this accomplished soon. I have asked Col Mull and Col Sirois to lead the way and resolve this ASAP. The issues in question has bin been lingering for quitquite some time and it is not a reflection on Col Lee's leadership.

Thank you
Col Robert Diduch
NER CC

You would think the Region CC would have someone to proof read his official correspondence.

edit: And I really need to pay attention to that warning that comes up telling me there has been a new reply.

BTW, I agree with the comments above, although a C- is a bit generous.  That e-mail is an embarrassment.

[SAR-EMT1]

What is the link to this ORM training? Im not in PAWG but Im interested in taking it anyway.

[tjaxe]

What is the link to this ORM training? Im not in PAWG but Im interested in taking it anyway.

Go to http://level2.cap.gov/visitors/programs/safety/orm.cfm then select ORM university.
To navigate there from CAP.gov go to Members / Safety / ORM

[flyerthom]

I TAKE OFFENSE!  I am in Northen Pennsylvania, almost New York, but definitely still under the Orange Hat!

There's still time to escape before Colgan notices!

[MattPHS2002]

Apparently PAWGHQ is trying to trim the dead wood. I just got an email asking CC's about inactive members.

[JC004]

I TAKE OFFENSE!  I am in Northen Pennsylvania, almost New York, but definitely still under the Orange Hat!

There's still time to escape before Colgan notices!

Not going to happen.  I have my eye on him.  I need someone to keep the dates in the wing calendar so I can focus on freaking out about all the other information that I'm missing for the wing site.

[W3ZR]

Apparently PAWGHQ is trying to trim the dead wood. I just got an email asking CC's about inactive members.

Interesting observation, there is now and was when I was a member 20 years
ago several "paper" members, you see their name on paper , but no one quite
remembers who they are and what they did for CAP.

[jimmydeanno]

I have my eye on him. 

[LittleIronPilot]

Some interesting safety notes on PAWG:
The wing has not had a mission related fatality or serious injury in over 30 years.
No wing wide aircraft or vehicle maint. issues; ever.
Four Turner Awards in the last 11 years.

So, hopefully the lesson learned here is that it doesn't matter what you did 30 years ago. 

You're only as good as your last safety inspection - and that's the way it should be. 

Hopefully the PAWG gets their act together and starts taking things a lot more seriously.   What's more, I hope other Wings are paying attention and ensure their houses in order too.

While I will say that there is a need for proper paperwork, and no excuse for not having it done, it would appear that the FACTS seem to bear out that there was not a safety issue in PAWG.

There was a safety PAPERWORK issue in PAWG.

[isuhawkeye]

which begs the question.....

how effective are mandatory monthly safety briefings at preventing safety issues?

[davedove]

Anyone done a mission in PA yet?

I didn't go on it, but our squadron had an ELT search there yesterday.

[sarmed1]

As you may be aware, The United States Air Force has issued the directive that ALL PAWG field operations cease and desist for the time being. What started out as a grounding of aircraft and corporate vehicles has grown into a full scale suspension of emergency services activities. The current mandate is that Wing-wide complete compliance with Operational Risk Management (ORM) certification be achieved within the ranks of ALL active members.  If you have received the email notification or been briefed on a squadron level regarding the ORM mandate be advised that it is very serious and must be acted upon immediately!  Failure to comply jeopardizes the entire membership's ability to serve in any capacity. Participation is simple as reading the document attached (10 Second ORM.PDF) and sending a confirmation email to safetyinspection@pawingcap.com with your CAP ID and Name in the subject line.

In any event, the suspension also affects our operations at the Hawk Mountain Ranger School. THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER ACTIVITIES AT THE H.M.R.S. SCHOOL until the suspension is lifted per order of the Wing Commander and the USAF.  Please work together to contact everyone you know within the organization, and as a team help us get past this thing. Rescheduling of school events and training will follow

well answers that question.  I imagine the only thing that is allowed to occur would be squadron meetings.......

mk