Flight uniforms for HOT weather

[N6RVT]

Dwight pictured during his first O-Ride...

As it happens that plane was at my first airshow as a cadet.  I don't know if my pilot matched up to that plane or not.  He WAS a that airshow demonstrating something called the "Lomschevak" which I have no doubt misspelled.  but in a different aircraft.

The aircraft pictured is actually the Canadian version of the JN4,but you have to be really nerdy to be able to spot the difference.  The Canadian model was curved under the engine for better aerodynamics.  On the American version its flat under the engine as it made no difference at the airspeed this plane could fly (my car is faster than this airplane) and it was a trainer anyway.

But keeping this on topic, open cockpits are good for flying in hot weather!

[UWONGO2]

For flying in hot weather, it appears T-shirts & shorts are an option:

https://twitter.com/MajGenPhelka/status/1013526880237039616

Anybody know what the waiver process is?

[SarDragon]

I'm checking my sources. Hold that thought.

[etodd]

For flying in hot weather, it appears T-shirts & shorts are an option:

https://twitter.com/MajGenPhelka/status/1013526880237039616

Anybody know what the waiver process is?

July of 2018?   You're going back that far to stir it up?  Geez.

[SarDragon]

For flying in hot weather, it appears T-shirts & shorts are an option:

https://twitter.com/MajGenPhelka/status/1013526880237039616

Anybody know what the waiver process is?

July of 2018?   You're going back that far to stir it up?  Geez.

I didn't notice that, but the question is still relevant.

To answer the Q-

Submit a letter through the chain of command to CAP/DP outlining the reasoning for the waiver request and the proposed alternative. For example, if an encampment or a flight academy will be operating in extreme heat, indicate that temperature is forecast to be extreme, and flight academy students will wear uniform short and matching T-shirts...or something similar. Reach out to VA Wing or to any of the summer flight academy directors for examples.

[PHall]

For flying in hot weather, it appears T-shirts & shorts are an option:

https://twitter.com/MajGenPhelka/status/1013526880237039616

Anybody know what the waiver process is?

If you're flying a sailplane. Greenhouse effect and all that.
It's in the 70-1.

[TheSkyHornet]

Here's a part that's often ignored/forgotten as well:

9.10.2. Gliders, Tow Planes or Hot Air Balloons. CAP uniforms are not required unless directed
by a Wing Commander or higher, but clothing must identify the individual as a CAP member, be
appropriate to the operating conditions, and reflect CAP in a positive manner. Due to the greenhouse
effect of the glider canopy, the use of sun screen and a full-brimmed hat is recommended. Outer
clothing made of nylon is prohibited for CAP hot air balloon ground and flight crew members.

AC/DC t-shirts don't qualify.

[PHall]

Here's a part that's often ignored/forgotten as well:

9.10.2. Gliders, Tow Planes or Hot Air Balloons. CAP uniforms are not required unless directed
by a Wing Commander or higher, but clothing must identify the individual as a CAP member, be
appropriate to the operating conditions, and reflect CAP in a positive manner. Due to the greenhouse
effect of the glider canopy, the use of sun screen and a full-brimmed hat is recommended. Outer
clothing made of nylon is prohibited for CAP hot air balloon ground and flight crew members.

AC/DC t-shirts don't qualify.

And it's any kind of CAP shirt too. Squadron shirt, Encampment shirt, NCSA shirt.

[SARDOC]

Is blue somehow sub-standard?

While I absolutely agree with you that there is nothing wrong with the blue.  The question that provoked this response is exactly what the membership thinks, that the uniform is for those who "don't meet standards"

As long as we have two separate classes of uniforms, we'll have two separate cultures/classes.

[NIN]

AC/DC t-shirts don't qualify.

<quietly puts away AC/DC shirts...>

[UWONGO2]

For flying in hot weather, it appears T-shirts & shorts are an option:

https://twitter.com/MajGenPhelka/status/1013526880237039616

Anybody know what the waiver process is?

July of 2018?  You're going back that far to stir it up?  Geez.

I remember seeing that a long time ago, asked around my wing but nobody had any clue what the process was so I filed it away to check into. Clearly other important tasks have kept me busy since then but then this thread popped up.

Since it's usually in the triple digits here, hot weather flying uniforms is a topic of interest especially for cadet flights where you don't want to turn them off to flying because you made them horrendously hot and uncomfortable. We mitigate the best we can, flying at sun-up, hydration, and whatnot but flying in t-shirts and shorts would really be a game changer for us. Big thanks for SarDragon for the info!

Bummer on the AC/DC shirts though.

[Shuman 14]

Maybe CAP should start buying Aircraft equipped with Air Conditioning units, would that not solve the problem? 

[PHall]

Maybe CAP should start buying Aircraft equipped with Air Conditioning units, would that not solve the problem? 

The airplanes that have air conditioning usually have price tags in the one million dollar and up range.
You won't mind having your Army Reserve budget slashed to pay for that would you?  ;-)

[Capt Thompson]

Maybe CAP should start buying Aircraft equipped with Air Conditioning units, would that not solve the problem? 

The airplanes that have air conditioning usually have price tags in the one million dollar and up range.
You won't mind having your Army Reserve budget slashed to pay for that would you?  ;-)

Always thought air conditioning was provided by that little round vent.

[N6RVT]

Maybe CAP should start buying Aircraft equipped with Air Conditioning units, would that not solve the problem? 

One of the things that my wife finds continuously amusing is that the plane I fly 1000' over the desert in for hours on end barely has vents that work, and the plane I fly at the same height just off the beach ...... has air conditioning.

[PHall]

Maybe CAP should start buying Aircraft equipped with Air Conditioning units, would that not solve the problem? 

One of the things that my wife finds continuously amusing is that the plane I fly 1000' over the desert in for hours on end barely has vents that work, and the plane I fly at the same height just off the beach ...... has air conditioning.

That's called Karma.

[Mustang]

Blue flight suit. 1, ea.

But what the HELL are those wings you're wearing?!?

[NIN]

Blue flight suit. 1, ea.

But what the HELL are those wings you're wearing?!?

"Bad life choices"