National Commander Suspended

[Al Sayre]

I wonder then based on Don's Letter who wrote the original one at the start of this thread.

That was a notification to the Wing CC's that was forwarded...

[ELTHunter]

News of the Farce distributed an e-mail supposedly authored by Susie Parker.

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I wonder then based on Don's Letter who wrote the original one at the start of this thread.

That was a notification to the Wing CC's that was forwarded...

Yes but I wonder who wrote it send to the Wing CC's as Don said part of it was innacurate.  So I wonder if two people with two different agenda's are sending information out when everything should be coming from one source.

[Smokey]

Both letters are from folks at National....Susie Parker ( Membership services at NHQ)  authored the one on behalf of Maj Gen Bowling of the BOG and Dow Rowland's letter was sent to the NHQ staff.

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I wonder why they're not co-ordinating the release of this. 

[Smokey]

No inaccuracy,  just slightly different wording.  Brig Gen Coulter assumes the duties that Gen Pineda would do, but she is NOT the Acting CC.  That only occurs when there is no CC as occurred when Maj Gen Wheeles resigned when Gen Pineda was the CV.  Gen Pineda then took over as ACTING CC until the Natl Board elections.

[IceNine]

There were not claims of inaccuracy only misconception...

Mr. Rowland was making the point clear that we do not have an Acting commander only the vice commander doing her duty as the commander in the CC's absence.   So we should treat this as if the CC was out of the country, not being replaced temporarily

[Tubacap]

Dunno, but it this is the fastest growing thread I have ever seen.  In fact, I just got a warning saying two more replies were posted!!!

[IceNine]

I wonder why they're not co-ordinating the release of this. 

Because this is 2 different crowds.  The NHQ Paid Staff should by all rights be treated differently than the membership as their jobs depend on them keeping quite when told to do so.

[Pylon]

I wonder why they're not co-ordinating the release of this. 

They are coordinating it.  The two emails had different audiences.  The letter sent by Ms. Parker, on behalf of Maj Gen Bowling was destined for the members of the National Board.  

The email from Donald Rowland was to the NHQ staff.  In his responsibilities as Executive Director, he oversees the paid, professional staff at Maxwell, so it's entirely appropriate for him to craft and send such a message.

[Ricochet13]

Can someone fill me in as to why this might be happening?

It's a sign that our system is still working the way it should be, and that members even at the highest levels don't get a free pass if an allegation, unfounded or not, is thrown out there.

Certainly restored my faith in the "Core Values" of the organization. 

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I see said the blind to the deaf it's all becoming clear to me now.

[LtCol White]

Whatever the outcome, lets just hope that the proper action is taken and justice is done. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty and deserves a fair shake regardless of personal opinion. We have all been or know someone who has been falsely accused of something at some point. If guilty, action should be taken. If not guilty and intentionally falsely accused, action should be taken against the accuser.

Everyone deserves this.

[Hawk200]

I'm brand-spankin' new to CAP (don't even have a temp ID yet). Can someone fill me in as to why this might be happening?

In a nutshell, allegations were made that the MG had someone take a test for him in order for him to become MG.

I asked the same questions about two months ago when I joined.

The nature of the allegation was that Pineda had someone take an Air Force End of Course test for him. I think it was Air Command and Staff College. That test in no way qualified him for the general officer position.

It's not a requirement for any CAP officer to take the course. It was an integrity issue, not a test that made him eligible for the command.

[Pylon]

Whatever the outcome, lets just hope that the proper action is taken and justice is done. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty and deserves a fair shake regardless of personal opinion. We have all been or know someone who has been falsely accused of something at some point. If guilty, action should be taken. If not guilty and intentionally falsely accused, action should be taken against the accuser.

Everyone deserves this.

I think that best sums up what we all should hope for.  The rest of our discussion can only be speculation and turning of the rumor mill.

[O-Rex]

Good, bad or indifferent: think what you'd like about Ray Hayden, but apparently someone listened (?)

You never know. . .

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I wonder how long this investigation will take. 

[Sgt. Savage]

Good, bad or indifferent: think what you'd like about Ray Hayden, but apparently someone listened (?)

You never know. . .

   OOH, OOH, OOH, HE DID IT!! HE DID IT!! HE SAID THE NAME!! HE SAID IT!! I"M TELLLLINNNNGGGG!! OOH, OOH

[TankerT]

Good, bad or indifferent: think what you'd like about Ray Hayden, but apparently someone listened (?)

You never know. . .

Fact is, we don't know if Mr. Hayden's complaint has any relation to the ROI that was sent to the National Board.  In fact, it could be something different, and the final result could be MG Pineda is told "Bad General" and is reinstated.

I like the X-Files as much as the next person... but hey... lets not jump to too many conclusions here.  (Cue Office Space pictures...)

[Capt M. Sherrod]

Good, bad or indifferent: think what you'd like about Ray Hayden, but apparently someone listened (?)

You never know. . .

   OOH, OOH, OOH, HE DID IT!! HE DID IT!! HE SAID THE NAME!! HE SAID IT!! I"M TELLLLINNNNGGGG!! OOH, OOH

LOL  -  I'm still waiting for my Wing/CC to send anything down, but it will probably be a while since he is currently at Region Conference at West Point.