Started by Nick Critelli, July 15, 2007, 02:42:34 PM
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Quote from: Skyray on July 17, 2007, 02:17:15 PMFurther thought on the issue brings to the forefront that one of our major problems is rank. If I were appointed supreme commander, I would try to induce the powers that be to eliminate all but duty performance promotions because it is my opinion that some of our most grievous problems are caused by "rank skipping." I know one member who skipped from Second Lieutenant to Major to full Colonel without hitting any of the in-betweens, and he is a disaster! Military equivalence and other promotions would get a short time to backfill themselves to the proper training level. No one would be eligible to be wing commander until they had been promoted to Lieutenant Colonel by duty performace and finished Level Five. That should cut down a little bit on the cronyism that we have been seeing in the past few years.
Quote from: ZigZag911 on July 24, 2007, 05:53:13 AMColonel (O-6) for 20 or even 25 year members, with the provision that they have completed the senior professional development program (Level V....I'm only through IV myself) would indeed be a motivator for some to stay active and work on PD....also, since there is a badge for National Board members, the 'corporate colonels' would be easily identifiable.50 year members should get O-6 regardless of prior grade or PD level, just for perseverance!There are an awful lot of 30 year plus members, I'm not so sure about handing out general officer rank for longevity...though I am entirely in favor of retired military officers receiving the grade equivalent to their active duty rank, even if general officer.
Quote from: SARMedTech on July 24, 2007, 07:09:29 AMWould you eliminate the "professional appointments" of MD, RNs, EMT/Medics, Lawyers, etc?
Quote from: SARMedTech on July 24, 2007, 07:09:29 AMIm still a SMWOG but the Squadron Commander has informed that we will put me in for 2d Lt sometime in the next month or so. Since basically all the professional appointment does is eliminate the 6 month "time in" period but not any other qualification for that first bump, would you eliminate it?
Quote from: SARMedTech on July 24, 2007, 07:09:29 AMDo you feel that its unfair, etc.
Quote from: SARMedTech on July 24, 2007, 07:09:29 AMWhen I was interested in joint the USCGR, the recruiter stated that, after finishing recruit training, I would be eligible for their direct Petty Officer appointment. I mean, great to be a PO, but I didnt know how I felt about not having military experience past boot when I "made the grade." I wondered if other folks who perhaps had been in longer would be offended, resent it or what their reaction would be.
Quote from: SARMedTech on July 24, 2007, 07:09:29 AMUltimately, I didnt join because the billet I was interested in (Health Services) was not available (ie all HS billets filled) and what they kept pushing for was Port Security. When I indicated I was interested in the PS billet, the stopped returning calls.
Quote from: SARMedTech on July 24, 2007, 07:09:29 AMId like to hear some thoughts on CAPs professional appointments.
Quote from: flyguy06 on July 24, 2007, 07:37:22 PMJust because the military and Public Health organizations do it that way doesnt make it fair. People IN the military already dont think its fair thata person gets more rank just because they have a degree. To do it in a volunteer organization you would loose a lot of people. I believe.
Quote from: flyguy06 on July 24, 2007, 07:37:22 PMPeople IN the military already dont think its fair thata person gets more rank just because they have a degree.
Quote from: flyguy06 on July 25, 2007, 01:43:21 AMTalk to an Infantry soldier and ask him what he thinks about the young 22 year old West Point LT leading him?
Quote from: Sgt. Savage on July 25, 2007, 01:42:08 PMI was that soldier as well. I took solice in the fact that, though the 2Lt was the "Platoon Leader", the Platoon Sergeant ran the show. The CO supported it and any LT that went toe to toe with the "Platoon Daddy" would find himself in the front leaning rest, feet on the CO's desk, learning a lesson in leadership and title (with the door closed, of course).We accept rank as it is presented to us. We salute it, we show it honor. We respect the man that wears it if he has earned it.The same question could be asked of me.... Why do I, a veteran, NCO, and proven leader, render salute to some guy off the street with a brand new set of "Butter Bars", that couldn't find his ass with both hands, and not a clue about leadership? Because that is what I do. I'll follow his instructions to the limit of safety and good judgement. When he crosses the line, the CC finds out. If the CC is worth more than a bag of manure, he'll teach his junior officers to listen to their NCO's, as they own the t-shirt.If it all fails, I take my ball and go play elsewhere.
Quote from: James on September 04, 2007, 08:08:20 PM whats a e BoG, NB, NEC Next I will be elected president
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