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Started by NIN, September 22, 2012, 01:33:53 AM

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a2capt

Hey.. you attributed that quote to the wrong person...

Garibaldi

Quote from: a2capt on September 28, 2012, 03:57:06 AM
Hey.. you attributed that quote to the wrong person...

HEY! He's right! How dare you defame me??? :'(
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NIN

Fix0red it. Sorry guys.  I blame my fingers.
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SarDragon

Quote from: NIN on September 28, 2012, 04:26:42 AM
Fix0red it. Sorry guys.  I blame my fingers.

More like getting olde!  >:D
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Garibaldi

Still a major after all these years.
ES dude, leadership ossifer, publik affaires
Opinionated and wrong 99% of the time about all things

NIN

I'm about half tempted to out this guy publicly right here on CAP-Talk.

To quote Red Leader "Just a few more seconds..."
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sarmed1

if there was a like button here, I would be liking NIN's idea......
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Eclipse

Quote from: sarmed1 on September 28, 2012, 03:21:17 PM
if there was a like button here, I would be liking NIN's idea......

If there was a "Like" button here, all the adults would leave...

"That Others May Zoom"

The CyBorg is destroyed

Quote from: Eclipse on September 28, 2012, 03:31:03 PM
If there was a "Like" button here, all the adults would leave...

:clap: :) ;) :D ;D :clap:
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Stonewall

Quote from: NIN on September 28, 2012, 02:36:08 PM
I'm about half tempted to out this guy publicly right here on CAP-Talk.

To quote Red Leader "Just a few more seconds..."

You ain't got a hair on your arse if you don't!  Have they even been online lately? 
Serving since 1987.

NIN

Quote from: Stonewall on September 28, 2012, 04:37:32 PM
You ain't got a hair on your arse if you don't!  Have they even been online lately?

You just called me out on a Faker Bust?  Oh, man.
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a2capt

Oh come on. Just cut to the chase. Sick Kenny on 'em.

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: NIN on September 28, 2012, 04:55:17 PM
Quote from: Stonewall on September 28, 2012, 04:37:32 PM
You ain't got a hair on your arse if you don't!  Have they even been online lately?

You just called me out on a Faker Bust?  Oh, man.

Oh, it's ON!

Stonewall

A lot of people have basically said "Hell yeah!  Throw them to the wolves."

But, think about it.  What if this was a person who was well known, in a key position in your group, wing, or region?  Would you really have the guts to "out" them?  Embarass them in front of their friends?  Their supporters?  Their followers?

One thing that never changes, much like convicted sex offenders, is that with fakers, everyone is ALWAYS surprised.  "I never thought he was a faker...blows me away!"

You'd be surprised!
Serving since 1987.

Eclipse

#74
Quote from: Stonewall on September 28, 2012, 06:00:28 PMBut, think about it.  What if this was a person who was well known, in a key position in your group, wing, or region?  Would you really have the guts to "out" them?  Embarass them in front of their friends?  Their supporters?  Their followers?

Yes.

Someone who is inclined to lie about something like this, which is both trivial and important at the same time, is very likely to
fudge other things when he deems it necessary.  That doesn't mean a public lynching, but in a private situation, absolutley.

"That Others May Zoom"

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: Stonewall on September 28, 2012, 06:00:28 PM
A lot of people have basically said "Hell yeah!  Throw them to the wolves."

When the story seems to add up to that, people get angry. Of course, if he is legit, he can always prove it and get an apology.

Devil Doc

Quote from: usafaux2004 on September 28, 2012, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Stonewall on September 28, 2012, 06:00:28 PM
A lot of people have basically said "Hell yeah!  Throw them to the wolves."

When the story seems to add up to that, people get angry. Of course, if he is legit, he can always prove it and get an apology.

What if this "HE" is an "SHE, you never know!
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NIN

Quote from: usafaux2004 on September 28, 2012, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Stonewall on September 28, 2012, 06:00:28 PM
A lot of people have basically said "Hell yeah!  Throw them to the wolves."

When the story seems to add up to that, people get angry. Of course, if he is legit, he can always prove it and get an apology.

This is part of the reason I'm holding off a bit.   It is very, very difficult to "prove a negative," and repeated FOIA requests have come back as "no record found". Does that mean our request is malformed, or there really is "no records" for this guy?

As much as I like busting fakers, I dislike being wrong and accusing someone of something they're not doing due to bad info.  Which is why I'm trying to get additional info.
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Eclipse

#78
Quote from: NIN on September 28, 2012, 06:51:03 PMAs much as I like busting fakers, I dislike being wrong and accusing someone of something they're not doing due to bad info.  Which is why I'm trying to get additional info.

That's the best stance.

Another tactic I have used is revalidating everyone in the unit as a whole "We've seen some issues in CAP, and need to make sure everyone
can substamtiate everything they are wearing, CAP or otherwise. Please bring in those documents for review by X date."

"That Others May Zoom"

NIN

Well, the bird is in the air. My deputy and I turned keys.  Now we sit back in our snuggies and slippers and wait for the fireworks.

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