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Emergency Services & Operations / Re: Saves
Last post by Eclipse - Today at 07:08:32 am
That ticker has always been the marketed Saves, someone probably broke it updating the graphics.
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Emergency Services & Operations / Re: Saves
Last post by PHall - Today at 05:12:12 am
Quote from: sardak on Today at 03:43:27 am88 saves awarded for the Yellowstone flooding in Montana. 

QuoteIOW, that 129 may be including all the non-distress saves, like the always popular ELT in the hangar mission
Those are non-distress FINDs, not saves.

And Non-Distress Finds are not to be confused with actual Saves. Saves are awarded by the Air Force Rescue Coordination Center not CAP.
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Emergency Services & Operations / Re: Saves
Last post by sardak - Today at 03:43:27 am
88 saves awarded for the Yellowstone flooding in Montana. 

QuoteIOW, that 129 may be including all the non-distress saves, like the always popular ELT in the hangar mission
Those are non-distress FINDs, not saves.
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Emergency Services & Operations / Re: Saves
Last post by etodd - Today at 02:20:26 am
Hmmm. May be some bad wording there(?)  I'd believe 129 saves might be more accurate than "129 lives saved".  IOW, that 129 may be including all the non-distress saves, like the always popular ELT in the hangar mission we do so many of.

Someone that has the actual numbers can correct me.
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Emergency Services & Operations / Saves
Last post by Ohioguard - Yesterday at 10:21:21 pm
The beginning on June, national was scrolling 40 saves across the top of their web page.  Now it is 129.  Haven't seen any news release on over 80 save in a month.  Did I miss something?


50 yr member
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The Lobby / Re: CAP Launches bold new some...
Last post by Eclipse - Yesterday at 04:41:12 pm
Quote from: tmgoethe on Yesterday at 03:24:00 pmI don't think you can as the new one was populated across all CAP websites.

Which is kind of hilarious when you consider that sites like this:
https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/members/cap-national-hq/uniform-information

...have not been updated after somewhere between 5-10 years depending on the change(s), but
this was changed seemingly overnight, not to mention the myriad regs and other documents
that continue to grow geometrically via ICL instead of being properly updated.

One can only wonder if this would have happened at all if the first-year MARCOM student who
drew this had only been allowed to borrow their family's Oldsmobile Silhouette for the
Senior trip to the beach, but alas, the stone was cast.

More humorous are the scores of people on the web that took 15 minutes and made
this into something that actually has connectivity to the organization and its history.

It should also be pointed out that NHQ continues to use a non-standard website to
host these images while at the same time portending to have a "required" host for
all other CAP websites.
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The Lobby / Re: CAP Launches bold new some...
Last post by tmgoethe - Yesterday at 03:24:00 pm
Please go ahead and show me one place where the "CAP symbol" is currently being used on a website etc.
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I don't think you can as the new one was populated across all CAP websites. I know the Triblade will be retained in some insignia, but I always liked it everywhere.

As to the other point, I would consider what we use as our symbol or insignia to be part of heraldry.

Oh well, for me it doesn't matter as other commitments are making me think my time in CAP is drawing nigh. This didn't help. We were a 3 generation CAP family. My son is about to join the Marines, so he won't have time for it. That said, CAP was a big deal in my life, largely because of my dad and then because of my son.
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The Lobby / Re: CAP Launches bold new some...
Last post by NovemberWhiskey - Yesterday at 12:41:18 pm
Quote from: tmgoethe on Yesterday at 12:11:03 pmit will take many years to get as many to recognize the new one meaning we have tossed years of "brand" recognition down the tubes.

Please go ahead and show me one place where the "CAP symbol" is currently being used on a website etc.
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The Lobby / Re: CAP Launches bold new some...
Last post by NovemberWhiskey - Yesterday at 12:33:26 pm
Quote from: tmgoethe on Yesterday at 12:11:03 pmHeraldry matters. Did the CAP heraldry people have much to do with this?

The CAP emblem and seal, which are the symbolic elements that contains heraldic elements, are unchanged and continue to have the tri-blade prop.
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The Lobby / Re: CAP Launches bold new some...
Last post by tmgoethe - Yesterday at 12:11:03 pm
One of the strengths of the Marine Corps is its reverence for its own history, recognizing that we stand on the shoulders of those before us. The Eagle, Anchor and Globe has been in use for over 200 years with very minor changes.

Being able to explain the logo is nice, but recognizing it is the most important. I would bet the Marine insignia is recognized, though most might not know the Eagle is for the United States, the Globe is for worldwide service and the Anchor represents the fact the Marines are a naval service.

I will bet that while quite a few people recognize the old CAP insignia, it will take many years to get as many to recognize the new one meaning we have tossed years of "brand" recognition down the tubes.

Heraldry matters. Did the CAP heraldry people have much to do with this?
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