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General Discussion => The Lobby => Topic started by: davidsinn on September 22, 2009, 04:22:42 PM

Title: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: davidsinn on September 22, 2009, 04:22:42 PM
Looks like we are officially not the USAF Aux. when we are not on an AFAM  :( The red text was changed with the newest revision of 50-17.

QuoteCAPR 50-17 22 SEPTEMBER 2009 5
CHAPTER 1–OVERVIEW
1-1. Purpose of the Senior Member Professional Development Program. CAP is a federally chartered non-profit corporation. It is the official auxiliary of the United States Air Force when operating on authorized Air Force missions. Congress chartered CAP to perform certain duties for individual communities and for the nation. That charter helped establish CAP's three missions: Emergency Services, Aerospace Education, and Cadet Programs. To accomplish its mission, CAP requires an informed, active senior membership trained in leadership, management, and functional tasks. The CAP Senior Member Professional Development Program prepares members to serve their units, their communities, and their nation.
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: vento on September 22, 2009, 04:27:34 PM
Yeap, that is also the reason why we had to remove the wording "USAF AUX" from the tail of our aircrafts and replace them with the wording "Civil Air Patrol".
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: davidsinn on September 22, 2009, 04:28:31 PM
Quote from: vento on September 22, 2009, 04:27:34 PM
Yeap, that is also the reason why we had to remove the wording "USAF AUX" from the tail of our aircrafts and replace them with the wording "Civil Air Patrol".

That's what I've heard for years this is just the first time I've seen it in writing from NHQ.
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: FW on September 22, 2009, 04:59:22 PM
Yep, whatever we can spend taxpayer dollars for is "USAF Aux." business.  Whatever we must spend membership money, donations, etc. for is our business.  ;D 
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: heliodoc on September 22, 2009, 04:59:49 PM
Finally something in writing...

That ought to settle the Auxiliary thing...   
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: Rotorhead on September 22, 2009, 05:56:44 PM
Quote from: heliodoc on September 22, 2009, 04:59:49 PM
Finally something in writing...

That ought to settle the Auxiliary thing...

What do you mean by "settle"?
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: Cecil DP on September 22, 2009, 06:47:34 PM
Quote from: Rotorhead on September 22, 2009, 05:56:44 PM
Quote from: heliodoc on September 22, 2009, 04:59:49 PM
Finally something in writing...

That ought to settle the Auxiliary thing...

What do you mean by "settle"?

It's more of a "Now you see, now you don't" situation.
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: Eclipse on September 22, 2009, 07:10:49 PM
This isn't new information...
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: Spike on September 22, 2009, 08:01:07 PM
I incorporate DDR into just about anything I can.  That is an AF mission, thus it must mean I am always performing AF assigned missions....right?!?!

The Base we meet at has the sign outside our building as " USAF Auxiliary, CAP SQD xxx".  So, we must be the AF Auxiliary. 

Lets be proud that we are both a corporation and the sometimes USAF Auxiliary. 
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: RiverAux on September 22, 2009, 09:54:38 PM
I have contended that though not every individual member is on AFAM status at any one time, CAP as an organization is always the AF Auxiliary.  See http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=4407.0
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: The CyBorg is destroyed on September 23, 2009, 01:08:17 AM
When the general public sees me in uniform, I often get asked, "are you in the Air Force?"

My reply is most often along the lines of:

"I am an officer in the Civil Air Patrol, the volunteer auxiliary of the United States Air Force."

Usually the response is "like the Air National Guard or Air Force Reserve?", to which I say that we are volunteers and, unlike the ANG/AFRES, we do not have an armed, combatant mission.

Then I often get incredulous looks and remarks along the lines of "you do this and don't get paid for it?"

But sometimes I get a response like, "I didn't know you guys were still around!"
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: Johnny Yuma on September 23, 2009, 02:29:06 AM
Quote from: CyBorg on September 23, 2009, 01:08:17 AMThen I often get incredulous looks and remarks along the lines of "you do this and don't get paid for it?"

Our wing Chaplain and Chief of Staff got the exact response from the National Guard Bureau's Chief of Chaplains a couple weeks ago during a state chaplain's conference they were invited to.
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: Mustang on September 23, 2009, 04:35:04 AM
This "news" is almost 10 years old.
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: davidsinn on September 23, 2009, 10:05:12 AM
Quote from: Mustang on September 23, 2009, 04:35:04 AM
This "news" is almost 10 years old.

Yes it is. AFAIK it's the first time it's been codified in our own regs.
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: Phil Hirons, Jr. on September 23, 2009, 03:39:36 PM
This may be somewhere else on this board but...

http://captalk.net/MGalleryItem.php?id=57
Title: Re: AUX ON/AUX OFF
Post by: davidsinn on September 23, 2009, 03:43:29 PM
Quote from: phirons on September 23, 2009, 03:39:36 PM
This may be somewhere else on this board but...

http://captalk.net/MGalleryItem.php?id=57

Your link is bad.