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General Discussion => The Lobby => Topic started by: West MI-CAP-Ret on October 07, 2021, 09:15:45 PM

Title: CIVIL AIR PATRO: GOLD VERMEIL/BLUE CHATELAINE BAR
Post by: West MI-CAP-Ret on October 07, 2021, 09:15:45 PM
(https://www.vanguardmil.com/products/civil-air-patrol-gold-vermeil-blue-chatelaine-bar)Does anyone have any idea what award I found at Vanguardmil.com? It's SKU:CAP074E for $32.40? 

https://www.vanguardmil.com/products/civil-air-patrol-gold-vermeil-blue-chatelaine-bar
Title: Re: CIVIL AIR PATRO: GOLD VERMEIL/BLUE CHATELAINE BAR
Post by: Eclipse on October 07, 2021, 09:23:10 PM
https://www.vanguardmil.com/products/civil-air-patrol-gold-vermeil-blue-chatelaine-bar

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0720/2413/products/cap0740e_1024x1024.jpg)

Also this:
http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=23215.msg415283#msg415283

It's just decorative.  I can't imagine why these were made or who would wear them.
Title: Re: CIVIL AIR PATRO: GOLD VERMEIL/BLUE CHATELAINE BAR
Post by: Shuman 14 on October 07, 2021, 09:47:02 PM
So how/where do you even wear something like that?
Title: Re: CIVIL AIR PATRO: GOLD VERMEIL/BLUE CHATELAINE BAR
Post by: Jester on October 08, 2021, 02:04:06 PM
Quote from: shuman14 on October 07, 2021, 09:47:02 PMSo how/where do you even wear something like that?
Nipple ring?
Title: Re: CIVIL AIR PATRO: GOLD VERMEIL/BLUE CHATELAINE BAR
Post by: MSG Mac on October 08, 2021, 03:58:07 PM
Now tell me what a "Chatelaine" Bar is
Title: Re: CIVIL AIR PATRO: GOLD VERMEIL/BLUE CHATELAINE BAR
Post by: Spam on October 08, 2021, 04:47:31 PM
The picture shows it upside down, I think. The hook would be worn facing downwards, with a symbolic key, or other accoutrements hanging from it to denote the mistress of the house, e.g. the wife of the Commander. This isn't a uniform wear item, but rather is costume jewelry based on the 18th/19th century fashion for women of substance to have a pin or brooch from which to hang their keys to the valuables, etc. (from days when womens fashions didnt include pockets).

If someone wanted to denote the Commanders wife in a reception line, this would be one possible way to do it, I suppose. Steampunk CAP style?


R/s
Spam

(quick edit: please don't cite my speculation as some source for suggesting wear of this in CAP receiving lines, etc. I would find using this as some sort of status signal a bit pretentious, actually, and I don't believe that any armed services actually do anything like that. If some commander wants to go buy one to mark out his Offred or whatever, just go buy a red cape, it would be more clear to the rest of us).
Title: Re: CIVIL AIR PATRO: GOLD VERMEIL/BLUE CHATELAINE BAR
Post by: Eclipse on October 08, 2021, 05:12:39 PM
This goes with it.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0720/2413/products/cap0740c_grande.jpg)

https://www.vanguardmil.com/products/civil-air-patrol-gold-vermiel-blue-locket

I could see a CAP spouse wearing this at a black tie or similar, I suppose.
Title: Re: CIVIL AIR PATRO: GOLD VERMEIL/BLUE CHATELAINE BAR
Post by: Jester on October 09, 2021, 04:03:43 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on October 08, 2021, 05:12:39 PMThis goes with it.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0720/2413/products/cap0740c_grande.jpg)

https://www.vanguardmil.com/products/civil-air-patrol-gold-vermiel-blue-locket

I could see a CAP spouse wearing this at a black tie or similar, I suppose.

Nah, that's for the other nipple
Title: Re: CIVIL AIR PATRO: GOLD VERMEIL/BLUE CHATELAINE BAR
Post by: Shuman 14 on October 12, 2021, 03:08:14 AM
Quote from: Spam on October 08, 2021, 04:47:31 PMThe picture shows it upside down, I think. The hook would be worn facing downwards, with a symbolic key, or other accoutrements hanging from it to denote the mistress of the house, e.g. the wife of the Commander. This isn't a uniform wear item, but rather is costume jewelry based on the 18th/19th century fashion for women of substance to have a pin or brooch from which to hang their keys to the valuables, etc. (from days when womens fashions didnt include pockets).

If someone wanted to denote the Commanders wife in a reception line, this would be one possible way to do it, I suppose. Steampunk CAP style?


R/s
Spam

(quick edit: please don't cite my speculation as some source for suggesting wear of this in CAP receiving lines, etc. I would find using this as some sort of status signal a bit pretentious, actually, and I don't believe that any armed services actually do anything like that. If some commander wants to go buy one to mark out his Offred or whatever, just go buy a red cape, it would be more clear to the rest of us).

Thanks for the research!

I like old-school traditions. That's why I always wear my white gloves, sword belt and sabre to formal events and carry a swagger stick in Service A's.

Yes I get looks, but everyone remembers me. :-P