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Covid Demobilization - Jan 2022

Started by Eclipse, January 11, 2022, 04:58:42 PM

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Eclipse


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jeders

Texas will be going from Phase 3 to Phase 1 effective 14 Jan.

I don't know when Oklahoma's effective date is, but according to the region commander, all of SWR is or will shortly be in Phase 1.
If you are confident in you abilities and experience, whether someone else is impressed is irrelevant. - Eclipse

TheSkyHornet

Quote from: jeders on January 11, 2022, 05:50:54 PMTexas will be going from Phase 3 to Phase 1 effective 14 Jan.

I don't grasp this concept at all.

If it's a safety/health emergency, why wait?

Spam

Yeah, that doesn't seem to make sense to me either on the face of it, but we sent our package in to NHQ for concurrence with an anticipated date of effectivity a few days out. It also allows local units to not be caught off guard or be in hack for having some event not in immediate compliance. But admittedly I grant the point.

On a positive note, Texas had better hurry or they'll miss the party. Here in GA, our numbers have apparently passed their peak (7 day moving average is dropping FAST, as fast as it went up), which mirrors the reports from the UK and elsewhere. Secondly, despite the spike in cases, our local death rates involving the virus have continued to drop steadily and quickly with no apparent correlation to current cases, and are now as low as last summer, with the trend headed toward pre-pandemic levels. Our schools are also fully open and are relaxing standards/discontinuing contact tracing for example, and the economy is pretty healthy here which reduces secondary impacts (mental health etc.). This experience may not be the case for other states, where Delta still circulates alongside Omicron, where population demographics differ (age profiles, etc.) or other factors are in play. But it is encouraging locally here.

As I'd discussed with our covid team and our Commander, this is food for thought regarding planning ahead for discontinuation of CAP measures, and returning to allowing members to make personal ORM based choices. I am pressing on with plans for my practice mission later this month, which we can execute with current precautions, regardless, but I think we'll be opening back up soon.

R/s
Spam

PS, of course, the Aleutians do look like a nice safe place. Hey - lets all move there!  LOL

Eclipse

Quote from: Eclipse on January 11, 2022, 04:58:42 PMAs of 01/11/2022

Phase 1 - 40
Phase 2 - 8
Phase 3 - 4
Source: https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/covid-19-remobilization

As of 01/12/2022
Phase 1 - 43
Phase 2 - 6
Phase 3 - 3

No appreciable change in the maps.

"That Others May Zoom"

Eclipse

Quote from: Eclipse on January 12, 2022, 03:52:34 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on January 11, 2022, 04:58:42 PMAs of 01/11/2022

Phase 1 - 40
Phase 2 - 8
Phase 3 - 4
Source: https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/covid-19-remobilization

As of 01/12/2022
Phase 1 - 43
Phase 2 - 6
Phase 3 - 3

No appreciable change in the maps.

As of 01/13/2022
Phase 1 - 46
Phase 2 - 5
Phase 3 - 1





https://www.covidactnow.org/?s=28041695

Per the AP:
"BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Idaho's coronavirus cases are increasing faster than the state can track them, causing a lag in case counts that some public health leaders fear could lull residences into a false sense of security."

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-lifestyle-health-public-health-idaho-96b67c8d8c5c733aa68b1fe3fa8408e0

"That Others May Zoom"

TheSkyHornet

Quote from: Eclipse on January 13, 2022, 07:35:46 PMPer the AP:
"BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Idaho's coronavirus cases are increasing faster than the state can track them, causing a lag in case counts that some public health leaders fear could lull residences into a false sense of security."

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-lifestyle-health-public-health-idaho-96b67c8d8c5c733aa68b1fe3fa8408e0

Idaho also has some state laws in respect to the reporting of patient health information and vaccination status for those over 18 only. Individuals over the age of 14 can consent to receive health treatment, including a vaccination, but that consent does not include sharing that health data. They also have further exemptions for a doctor to declare a minor at any age as "mature" following consultation. So the data is extremely inaccurate and lagging from a CDC reporting standpoint.




Eclipse

Today's map with Maine moving to the severest risk level.



No changes to CAP demobilization numbers.

"That Others May Zoom"

TheSkyHornet

Rumor has it that we're moving to a new Remobilization Phase system.

Any truth?
Anyone know anything?

Eclipse

Quote from: Eclipse on January 13, 2022, 07:35:46 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on January 12, 2022, 03:52:34 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on January 11, 2022, 04:58:42 PMAs of 01/11/2022

Phase 1 - 40
Phase 2 - 8
Phase 3 - 4
Source: https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/covid-19-remobilization

As of 01/12/2022
Phase 1 - 43
Phase 2 - 6
Phase 3 - 3

No appreciable change in the maps.

As of 01/13/2022
Phase 1 - 46
Phase 2 - 5
Phase 3 - 1

As of 01/15/2022
Phase 1 - 47
Phase 2 - 5
Phase 3 - 0

HIWG still showing the "by unit" note.

No appreciable changes in the maps.

"That Others May Zoom"

NovemberWhiskey

I'm a little surprised that IDWG only went back to phase 2: the deputy state immunologist, Kathryn Turner, said positive test rates were so high that the public health districts were unable to keep up with reporting and that the real case rate was likely around 135/100K.

https://www.kivitv.com/news/idaho-faces-backlog-in-processing-positive-covid-19-cases

Eclipse

As of 01/16/2022
Phase 1 - 49
Phase 2 - 3
Phase 3 - 0

HIWG still showing the "by unit" note.

No appreciable changes in the maps.

"That Others May Zoom"

JohhnyD

Quote from: TheSkyHornet on January 14, 2022, 02:55:12 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on January 13, 2022, 07:35:46 PMPer the AP:
"BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Idaho's coronavirus cases are increasing faster than the state can track them, causing a lag in case counts that some public health leaders fear could lull residences into a false sense of security."

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-lifestyle-health-public-health-idaho-96b67c8d8c5c733aa68b1fe3fa8408e0

Idaho also has some state laws in respect to the reporting of patient health information and vaccination status for those over 18 only. Individuals over the age of 14 can consent to receive health treatment, including a vaccination, but that consent does not include sharing that health data. They also have further exemptions for a doctor to declare a minor at any age as "mature" following consultation. So the data is extremely inaccurate and lagging from a CDC reporting standpoint.




And yet hospitalization rates are not changing much and death rates dropping in Idaho. Fear not science drives this, and yes, politics and money.

TheSkyHornet

Quote from: TheSkyHornet on January 14, 2022, 07:04:37 PMRumor has it that we're moving to a new Remobilization Phase system.

Any truth?
Anyone know anything?


Eclipse

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Quote from: JohhnyD on January 17, 2022, 01:13:36 AMAnd yet hospitalization rates are not changing much and death rates dropping in Idaho

Based on what data, exactly?

Even the IDHW admits it's moving too fast to track.

https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/idaho.division.of.public.health/viz/DPHIdahoCOVID-19Dashboard/Home

However every indicator listed is on an upward trend like a Blue Origin rocket...right up
until the point where the state stops reporting due to an increase in infections.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/coronavirus/article257230707.html

01/13/2022
"Cases are surging, the positivity rate has doubled and hundreds of health care workers are out sick. The coronavirus omicron wave that has beset the nation has arrived in Idaho in full force, and public health officials are worried about how the system will stay afloat."

"That Others May Zoom"

Eclipse

As of 01/17/2022
Phase 1 - 50
Phase 2 - 2
Phase 3 - 0

HIWG still showing the "by unit" note.

No appreciable changes in the maps.

"That Others May Zoom"

JohhnyD

Quote from: Eclipse on January 17, 2022, 04:32:52 PMBased on what data, exactly?
The local hospital, until today, has reported China Virus cases. Peaked a few months ago at over 130, since then trended down to 50 - 60, with fewer than a dozen in ICA and IIRC no deaths this year. Cases skyrocketing, hospital cases not at all. NOT AT ALL.

Again, Q.E.D.

Pace

Enough. If you want to rant about COVID and mandates, go to reddit. This will leave CAPTalk starting now. We are not a medical organization. We do not set medical recommendations.

NHQ is following recommendations and requirements from outside of the organization.

Mandates and status updates are certainly welcome to help spread the word. That's it.
Lt Col, CAP

TheSkyHornet

Quote from: TheSkyHornet on January 17, 2022, 03:49:03 PM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on January 14, 2022, 07:04:37 PMRumor has it that we're moving to a new Remobilization Phase system.

Any truth?
Anyone know anything?





But seriously...does anyone actually know anything about CAP changing the Remob system?

Luis R. Ramos

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Why go to Reddit "if anyone wants to rant" against or for something seen on these boards? Why expect members go to yet another different website or board? The goal should be to seek to lessen the technological burden on members, not increase it! But I expect this post will be deleted now.
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