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Title: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on August 19, 2007, 12:30:22 PM
I have been asked to help start a Medal of Valor Association. This Association will be open to any all members who have received the BMV or SMV and in some older cases the Distinguished Service Award. It was used as such in the 1950's. The association will have a couple of defined purposes such as small scholarships, networking, and such. Several recipients have allready been contacted and are on board with the idea. Former National Commander BrigGen Rich Anderson (SMV), Lt. Col. ShirleyJones (BMV), Lt. Col Todd Engelman (SMV), Lt. Col. Richard Greenwood (SMV), and a few others I dont have the business cards readily available for.

If you know of any members who are still in CAP or not please send me a PM with contact info.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: jwwinney on August 19, 2007, 06:27:41 PM
Yes, I am interested.   I am a BMV winner from the 60s in Nebraska.  I have sent my contact information to you as a private message today.
Jim Winney
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Smokey on August 19, 2007, 07:02:47 PM
I'm sure TP will want to join.  After all he did get the award for his heroism by directing traffic at a car crash.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: BillB on August 19, 2007, 07:18:17 PM
Jim one of the problems would be backing up the Distinguished Service Award. It's been 50+ years since many were awarded, and National no longer has any records. I got the award for starting three Squadrons with a total of 250 members back in the 1940's and early 50's. But the paperwork stayed with the squadrons, which as usual, lose some if not all paperwork.
You stand a better chance of finding Medal of Valor winners since those were, I believe numbered where the Distinguished Service Award was un-numbered. And to a great extent the Distinguished Service Award was given for service above and beyond normal duties, and had nothing to do with "valor" as determined for the Silver and Bronze medal of Valor.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Skyray on August 19, 2007, 08:48:36 PM
Quote from: Smokey on August 19, 2007, 07:02:47 PM
I'm sure TP will want to join.  After all he did get the award for his heroism by directing traffic at a car crash.

Do you have to be a current member of CAP to join?
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: mikeylikey on August 19, 2007, 09:47:15 PM
Where are the schoalrships coming from?  Should NHQ have a lsting of all recipients? 
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on August 19, 2007, 10:11:32 PM
Quote from: Skyray on August 19, 2007, 08:48:36 PM
Quote from: Smokey on August 19, 2007, 07:02:47 PM
I'm sure TP will want to join.  After all he did get the award for his heroism by directing traffic at a car crash.

Do you have to be a current member of CAP to join?

No this is not a CAP Sponsored Association and you dont have to be a current member.
Quote from: mikeylikey on August 19, 2007, 09:47:15 PM
Where are the schoalrships coming from?  Should NHQ have a lsting of all recipients? 

That will be one of the things discussed when the folks start to "showup" National does have some records but we are going to try and get the word out as well.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Pylon on August 20, 2007, 01:48:12 AM
Quote from: caphistorian on August 19, 2007, 10:11:32 PM
That will be one of the things discussed when the folks start to "showup" National does have some records but we are going to try and get the word out as well.

Though I have never been a recipient of the BMV or SMV, I understand the significance and fully support such an association.  Contact me when the time is right for a donation to a scholarship fund.  Good for all of you.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on February 07, 2008, 04:26:42 AM
The group now has a challenge coin. There are going to be a couple of different options posted later for recipients of the SMV or BMV. There is also going to be a Supporting Member category.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: ColonelJack on February 08, 2008, 09:52:34 PM
Quote from: Smokey on August 19, 2007, 07:02:47 PM
I'm sure TP will want to join.  After all he did get the award for his heroism by directing traffic at a car crash.

A car crash that some say didn't even happen ...

Jack
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on February 08, 2008, 10:29:24 PM
TP is Not eligible .... all I can say!
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: teesquared on February 15, 2008, 03:38:14 PM
We have a SMOV recipient in our squadron.
Email info sent.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: LR25AV8Tor on March 14, 2008, 06:24:42 AM
Not to beat a dead horse, but why is TP not eligible?  You said:

No this is not a CAP Sponsored Association and you don't have to be a current member.

unless his SMV been rescinded, you may not have a choice? I personally agree with your position especially since it appears he may not deserve it, but it is up to national to take it away.  Does the Spaatz Association not allow people to join because they don't like them?  Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: SJFedor on March 14, 2008, 06:40:28 AM
Quote from: LR25AV8Tor on March 14, 2008, 06:24:42 AM
Not to beat a dead horse, but why is TP not eligible?  You said:

No this is not a CAP Sponsored Association and you don't have to be a current member.

unless his SMV been rescinded, you may not have a choice? I personally agree with your position especially since it appears he may not deserve it, but it is up to national to take it away.  Does the Spaatz Association not allow people to join because they don't like them?  Just my opinion.

I would imagine that the Spaatz Association could very well choose to disassociate itself with a present or former member who had questionable things going on.

It's not just that people didn't like TP. He had to be removed by the BoG for the stuff he was doing.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Flying Pig on March 14, 2008, 07:46:29 AM
I think when someone is removed and BANNED from ever rejoing........
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on March 14, 2008, 04:53:33 PM
The group is made up of present and past members of good standing with CAP. It does not matter if they are former Cadets or Former National Level people. Person of good standing spells it out.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: nesagsar on March 14, 2008, 05:47:39 PM
I dont think I have ever met a member with one of the valor medals. I have heard people say that I deserved one for one of my dads seizures but no one ever turned it in.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: jimmydeanno on March 14, 2008, 06:00:02 PM
Quote from: nesagsar on March 14, 2008, 05:47:39 PM
I dont think I have ever met a member with one of the valor medals. I have heard people say that I deserved one for one of my dads seizures but no one ever turned it in.

Was there risk to your life or probably injury to you?
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on March 14, 2008, 06:14:00 PM
Quote from: nesagsar on March 14, 2008, 05:47:39 PM
I dont think I have ever met a member with one of the valor medals. I have heard people say that I deserved one for one of my dads seizures but no one ever turned it in.

Please take alook at the criteria as listed per CAPR 39-3 for the Silver and Bronze Medal of Valor

Silver Medal of Valor. Distinguished and conspicuous heroic action, at the risk of life, above and beyond the call of normal duty.

b. Bronze Medal of Valor. Distinguished and conspicuous heroic action where danger to self is probable and known. (NOTE: In cases where a member is credited with saving a human life, but where the act does not meet the criteria for the Silver or Bronze Medal of Valor, the member should be recommended for a Certificate of Recognition in accordance with paragraph 9g.)
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: nesagsar on March 14, 2008, 06:47:26 PM
My dad had a seizure in the front passenger seat of a moving car. The driver panicked and let go of the wheel causing the car to drift into the other lane. I was in the back seat and unhooked my safety belt, leaned into the front and took the wheel before we were hit by a eighteen wheeler, then I steered us into a parking lot and told her to stop the car. After that I got out and provided first aid for my dad and called for an ambulance.

Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Pylon on March 14, 2008, 06:56:15 PM
Didn't I see a nifty MOVA coin around here at one point?  Keep us updated, Col Shaw.  :)
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: nesagsar on March 14, 2008, 06:59:47 PM
Would my situation have qualified?
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Eeyore on March 14, 2008, 07:25:24 PM
Depends on how well the award was written and what the folks up the chain thought. Does it really matter? If you aren't a member anymore and you were never put in for the award, you can't really be put in for it now anyway.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: mikeylikey on March 14, 2008, 08:59:13 PM
Quote from: edmo1 on March 14, 2008, 07:25:24 PM
If you aren't a member anymore and you were never put in for the award, you can't really be put in for it now anyway.

But when he joins back up he can be put in for it though right??  (I am not sure on this)
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: arajca on March 14, 2008, 09:02:55 PM
Depends if he was a member at the time and how long ago it was.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Pylon on March 14, 2008, 09:22:10 PM
Topic.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: mikeylikey on March 14, 2008, 10:51:13 PM
Why do we need this? 
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on March 15, 2008, 05:43:04 AM
Quote from: nesagsar on March 14, 2008, 06:47:26 PM
My dad had a seizure in the front passenger seat of a moving car. The driver panicked and let go of the wheel causing the car to drift into the other lane. I was in the back seat and unhooked my safety belt, leaned into the front and took the wheel before we were hit by a eighteen wheeler, then I steered us into a parking lot and told her to stop the car. After that I got out and provided first aid for my dad and called for an ambulance.



The first question would be were you an active member in good standing at the time?
The next is how long ago was this?
The last is if you had atleast 2 witnesses.

Quote from: Pylon on March 14, 2008, 06:56:15 PM
Didn't I see a nifty MOVA coin around here at one point?  Keep us updated, Col Shaw.  :)

Thanks for the promotion! Yes I will post a picture later.

Quote from: mikeylikey on March 14, 2008, 08:59:13 PM
Quote from: edmo1 on March 14, 2008, 07:25:24 PM
If you aren't a member anymore and you were never put in for the award, you can't really be put in for it now anyway.

But when he joins back up he can be put in for it though right??  (I am not sure on this)

No the time in service has to concurrent. Thats what I was told by the NHQ.

Quote from: mikeylikey on March 14, 2008, 10:51:13 PM
Why do we need this? 

Need ?
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Cecil DP on March 15, 2008, 08:24:17 AM
Quote from: nesagsar on March 14, 2008, 06:47:26 PM
My dad had a seizure in the front passenger seat of a moving car. The driver panicked and let go of the wheel causing the car to drift into the other lane. I was in the back seat and unhooked my safety belt, leaned into the front and took the wheel before we were hit by a eighteen wheeler, then I steered us into a parking lot and told her to stop the car. After that I got out and provided first aid for my dad and called for an ambulance.



Disregard
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Flying Pig on March 15, 2008, 04:50:34 PM
Quote from: mikeylikey on March 14, 2008, 08:59:13 PM
Quote from: edmo1 on March 14, 2008, 07:25:24 PM
If you aren't a member anymore and you were never put in for the award, you can't really be put in for it now anyway.

But when he joins back up he can be put in for it though right??  (I am not sure on this)


nesagsar,
If Im not mistaken, your no longer a member right?  You must have been a member at the time of the incident, and it cannot have passed 2 years since the date of the incident.  Also, from your previous posts you stated that you were already awarded the Life Saving Medal for the incident.

Now, you can be put in for an award after the two year limit, but it needs a serious paper trail and a lot of justification as to why it should now be considered.  If you weere already awarded the Life Saving Medal, I think it would need some SERIOUS research and articulation as to why it needs to be upgraded.

Great job reacting the way you did and this is only my opinion based on what you wrote, but I would tend to think self preservation had a big part to play in the event as well vs. a selfless act of heroism.  I think the SMOV/ BMOV are reserved for those who take themselves from a place of being removed and in a position of safety, to knowingly putting themselves in danger.  Basically, a situation where nobody could have blamed you for NOT getting involved.

Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: mikeylikey on March 15, 2008, 10:12:48 PM
^ Perhaps when a person is awarded such a meritorious CAP decoration it should be listed on the NHQ website with the citation available to all to see.  I suspect that some of these awards (from rumor of course) were awarded for less than what is required of the individual to be considered.  If we make the information public, it would curb the rumor mills and may actually make the award more prestigious. 

Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on March 21, 2008, 03:19:33 PM
Here is a picture of the MOVA coins. The silver coin on the left will be for Medal of Valor Recipients only. The brass color on the right will be for those who wish to support the group through a donation.

The Silver coin is available for Silver and Bronze Medal of Valor Recipients only. The award will be confirmed through the records. The donation amount is $15 for the coin and a 3/4 inch lapel pin that is identical to the front of the coin.

The bronze coin is available to those who wish to support the MOVA. The donation amount is the same and they will also get the lapel pin in bronze. The bronze coins will also be "awarded" to those that have helped the gorup in some way. That will done on an individual basis.

Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on March 21, 2008, 03:21:51 PM
Quote from: mikeylikey on March 15, 2008, 10:12:48 PM
^ Perhaps when a person is awarded such a meritorious CAP decoration it should be listed on the NHQ website with the citation available to all to see.  I suspect that some of these awards (from rumor of course) were awarded for less than what is required of the individual to be considered.  If we make the information public, it would curb the rumor mills and may actually make the award more prestigious. 

My SMV was for running into a burning building and helping to get 17 people out. I personally removed 4 myself. That is the basic info for the entire writeup.

Here are some other writeups for SMV's. They are available through a Google Search.

Citation to Accompany The Silver Medal of Valor to Philip G. Malone

Lieutenant Colonel Philip G. Malone, CAP, Distinguished himself by conspicuous heroic action by risking his own life to save another on 11 September 2004. After successfully completing a search for a distress signal, Colonel Malone was debriefing with the other air and ground team members at the Middle Georgia Composite Squadron Building. Colonel Malone and another member were heading back toward the flight-line when they noticed that a Learjet taxiing to the ramp was on fire and he yelled for help. The plane had blown its left main landing tires on landing, parts of which ignited against the glowing hot brake disks as they taxied. The crew and passengers were unaware of the fire. Colonel Malone and the other member quickly opened the Flight Line gate, as others ran to the trailer to retrieve two fire extinguishers, and next door to the Fire Department for help. Colonel Malone and the others sprinted toward the plane
about 100 yards away. At this point the flames from the left gear erupted as the brake line burned through, spraying hydraulic fluid into the fire. The flames engulfed the gear and spread several feet in each direction along the wing and fuselage, reaching the belly fuel tank vents, as the engine was being shut down. Colonel Malone and the others squatted under the wing by the gear and temporarily
put out the flames. The upper door was lifted and two passengers leapt over the still-closed lower door to escape the aircraft. Two of the individuals opened the lower door and helped the third passenger and the two crew-members escape. The blaze re-ignited and was doused again. The occupants were moved to a safe area and the members continued to watch the aircraft to ensure the flames did not re-ignite until the Macon Airport Fire Department arrived about four minutes after the crew and aircraft were secure. Lieutenant Colonel Malone's quick thinking, Heroic action, and willingness to risk his own life to save others, reflects great credit upon himself, The
Georgia Wing, and Civil Air Patrol.

Citation to Accompany The Silver Medal of Valor to Randall G. Wisener

First Lieutenant Randall G. Wisener, CAP, Distinguished himself by conspicuous heroic action by risking his own life to save another on 11 September 2004. After successfully completing a search for a distress signal, Lt. Wisener was debriefing with the other air and ground team members at the Middle Georgia Composite Squadron Building. As the team was heading back toward the flight-line when they noticed that a Learjet taxiing to the ramp was on fire. The plane had blown its left main landing tires on landing, parts of which ignited against the glowing hot brake disks as they taxied. The crew and passengers were unaware of the fire. Two other members quickly opened the Flight Line gate, as one member ran to the trailer to retrieve two fire extinguishers, Lt. Wisener ran to the Fire Department for help. Lt. Wisener and the others sprinted toward the plane about 100 yards away. At this point the flames from the left gear erupted as the brake line burned through, spraying hydraulic fluid into the fire. The flames engulfed the gear and spread several feet in each direction along the wing and fuselage, reaching the belly fuel tank vents, as the engine was being shut down. Lt. Wisener and the others squatted under the wing by the gear and temporarily put out the flames. The upper door was lifted and two assengers leapt over the still-closed lower door to escape the aircraft. Lt. Wisener and another member opened the lower door and helped the third passenger and the two crew-members escape. The blaze re-ignited and was doused again. The occupants were moved to a safe area and the members continued to watch the aircraft to ensure the flames did not re-ignite until the Macon Airport Fire Department arrived about four minutes after the crew and aircraft were secure. Lieutenant Wisener's quick thinking, Heroic action, and willingness to risk his own life to save others, reflects great credit upon himself, The Georgia Wing, and Civil Air Patrol.

Citation to Accompany The Silver Medal of Valor to Richard J. Greenwood

Lieutenant Colonel Richard J. Greenwood, CAP, Distinguished himself by conspicuous heroic action by risking his own life to save nother on 11 September 2004. After successfully completing a search for a distress signal, Colonel Greenwood was debriefing with the other air and ground team members at the Middle Georgia Composite Squadron Building. Colonel Greenwood and another CAP member heading back toward the flight-line when they noticed that a Learjet taxiing to the ramp was on fire. The plane had blown its left main landing tires on landing, parts of which ignited against the glowing hot brake disks as they taxied. The crew and passengers were unaware of the fire. Colonel Greenwood and another member quickly opened the Flight Line gate, as one member ran to the trailer to
retrieve two fire extinguishers, and another ran to the Fire Department for help. Colonel Greenwood and the others sprinted toward the plane about 100 yards away. At this point the flames from the left gear erupted as the brake line burned through, spraying hydraulic fluid into the fire. The flames engulfed the gear and spread several feet in each direction along the wing and fuselage,
reaching the belly fuel tank vents, as the engine was being shut down. Colonel Greenwood and the others squatted under the wing by the gear and temporarily put out the flames. Colonel Greenwood ran to open the upper door and two passengers leapt over the still-closed lower door to escape the aircraft. Colonel Greenwood and another member opened the lower door and helped the third passenger and the two crew-members escape. The blaze re-ignited and was doused again. The occupants were moved to a safe area and the members continued to watch the aircraft to ensure the flames did not re-ignite until the Macon Airport Fire Department
arrived about four minutes after the crew and aircraft were secure. Lieutenant Colonel Greenwood's quick thinking, Heroic action, and willingness to risk his own life to save others, reflects great credit upon himself, The Georgia Wing, and Civil Air Patrol.

Citation to Accompany The Silver Medal of Valor to Todd A. Engelman

Lieutenant Colonel Todd A. Engelman, CAP, Distinguished himself by conspicuous heroic action by risking his own life to save another on 11 September 2004. After successfully completing a search for a distress signal, Colonel Engelman was debriefing with the other air and ground team members at the Middle Georgia Composite Squadron Building. Colonel Engelman and another CAP member heard the cry for help with an aircraft fire and quickly responded. Colonel Engelman ran to the trailer for two fire extinguishers while another member ran next door to the Fire Department. The plane had blown its left main landing tires on landing, parts of which ignited against the glowing hot brake disks as they taxied. The crew and passengers were unaware of the fire. Colonel Greenwood and the others sprinted toward the plane about 100 yards away. At this point the flames from the left gear erupted as the brake line burned through,
spraying hydraulic fluid into the fire. The flames engulfed the gear and spread several feet in each direction along the wing and fuselage, reaching the belly fuel tank vents, as the engine was being shut down. Colonel Engelman and the others squatted under the
wing and temporarily put out the flames. While others ran to open the door and quickly assist the passengers out of the aircraft. Colonel Engelman and another member continued to observe the aircraft. The blaze reignited and was doused again. The occupants were moved to a safe area and the members continued to watch the aircraft to ensure the flames did not re-ignite until the Macon Airport Fire Department arrived about four minutes after the crew and aircraft were secure. Lieutenant Colonel Engleman's quick thinking, Heroic action, and willingness to risk his own life to save others, reflects great credit upon himself, The Georgia Wing, and Civil Air Patrol.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Major Carrales on March 21, 2008, 03:56:01 PM
Quote from: caphistorian on March 21, 2008, 03:19:33 PM
Here is a picture of the MOVA coins.

I must say, that is an attractive medal.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on March 21, 2008, 08:41:07 PM
Quote from: Major Carrales on March 21, 2008, 03:56:01 PMI must say, that is an attractive medal.

Thanks for the compliment. I designed the coin. The front of the coin is pretty much self explanatory. The back has of course Semper Vigilans and the bottom has AB Intra which is Latin for "from within". From within the ranks of CAP and what comes from within someones ability to react to an emergency. The SMV and BMV ribbons were a last minute addition.

Tags - MIKE
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on July 29, 2008, 12:48:51 PM
I have created some backdrops with the SMV, BMV, and DSM for a website I am working on. Please feel free to use these images.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on November 06, 2008, 09:53:33 AM
Found these on the web while doing some research.

CITATION TO ACCOMPANY SILVER MEDAL OF VALOR TO CAPT EDWARD A. WASSERMAN Florida Wing
Captain Edward A. Wasserman, CAP, distinguished himself by conspicuous, heroic action above and beyond the call of duty on 29 May 1998. While sitting in his office at Piper High School in Sunrise, Florida, Captain Wasserman heard what sounded like an explosion coming from a common area. Rushing to the area, he spotted a thrash can with smoke and fumes eminating from the top. With complete disregard for his own personal safety, Captain Wasserman opened the trash can and observed an exploded plastic container and a second unexploded device. Realizing that even if the second device did not detonate the fumes and vapors from the first acid explosion could cause severe health problems for the students, Captain Wasserman decided to remove the can from the building. Although the fumes and vapors caused severe irritation and acid burns on Captain Wasserman's face and neck, he carried the can into a parking lot well away from the student population. Captain Wasserman's heroic actions preserved the health and safety of hundreds of students and staff members as well as prevented possible damage to school property. The singularly distinctive accomplishments of Captain Wasserman reflect great credit upon himself, the Florida Wing and Civil Air Patrol.

See below for examples of citations for the Bronze Medal of Valor.

CITATION TO ACCOMPANY BRONZE MEDAL OF VALOR TO ROY A. KAUER
Captain Roy A. Kauer, CAP, distinguished himself by conspicuous, heroic action on 11 September 1999. While driving home from the Caro Airport at 10:15 p.m., Captain Kauer noticed a mobile home on fire. He immediately reported the fire and told the dispatcher that he was going to enter the home to ensure there was no one inside. With complete disregard for his own personal safety, Captain Kauer kicked in the front door and entered the burning trailer, calling out for occupants. He remained in the living room until driven out by the flames and smoke. Captain Kauer then went to the back door, and again entered the dwelling, calling out for occupants. Again he was driven out by flames and smoke. Unable to re-enter, he waited for the fire department, directing traffic away from the area because of a 500 gallon fuel tank and a propane tank adjacent to the home. During this time, the father of the occupants arrived on the scene and fearing the worst, became distraught. Captain Kauer calmed him, noting there were no vehicles in the driveway, and that no one answered him when he called out. At that time, the occupants returned home to find their home engulfed with flames. Remaining on the scene Captain Kauer offered his assistance and comfort while the firemen worked to bring the fire under control. Captain Kauer's quick thinking, heroic action, and complete disregard for his own personal safety reflects great credit upon himself, the Michigan Wing, and Civil Air Patrol.

CITATION TO ACCOMPANY BRONZE MEDAL OF VALOR TO ANDY E. LANSDOWNE
Cadet Andy E. Lansdowne, CAP, distinguished himself by conspicuous, heroic action on 9 March 2000. While traveling northbound on a state highway, Cadet Lansdowne noticed the vehicle in front of him start to drift off the side of the road. The car eventually left the road, hitting and then jumping a fence, which sent it sailing into a pond. Cadet Lansdowne stopped his car immediately. Getting as close to the pond as he could, he noticed the first car slowly sinking into the pond. With complete disregard for his own personal safety, Cadet Lansdowne jumped into the freezing water and tried to open the driver's door. The doors were locked, trapping the driver inside the vehicle. In spite of the freezing water temperature and the fact that the car was continuing to sink, Cadet Lansdowne went around to each door refusing to give up. With the help from a passing motorist, the back window was broken and they were able to pull the victim from the sinking vehicle. The victim was not breathing and had no pulse. In spite of having very little feeling in his hands and body, Cadet Lansdowne used the medical kit from his ground team gear and remained with the victim beginning life saving efforts until the paramedic arrived. Cadet Lansdowne refused to be treated for his injuries until the victim was cared for. Cadet Lansdowne's quick thinking, heroic action, and complete disregard for his own personal safety reflects great credit upon himself, the Indiana Wing, and Civil Air Patrol.

CITATION TO ACCOMPANY BRONZE MEDAL OF VALOR TO REINALDO J. OTERO
Cadet Reinaldo J. Otero, CAP, distinguished himself by conspicuous, heroic action on 12 October 1997. While on a public bus, Cadet Otero became aware of an elderly lady attempting to leave the bus when her foot became lodged in the rear door. The bus driver was unable to hear the commotion and the bus started moving. The woman was outside the bus and the driver could not see that she was caught in the door. Cadet Otero tried to get the driver's attention by yelling as he attempted to dislodge the elderly lady's foot. When the bus driver still did not respond, Cadet Otero kicked at the door until it opened and with complete disregard for his own personal safety jumped out of the moving bus. Although Cadet Otero suffered some minor injuries, the woman's foot was released. He remained with the woman who appeared to have an open fracture to her right leg and multiple bruises and began giving her first aid. Cadet Otero's quick thinking, heroic action and complete disregard for his own personal safety reflect great credit upon himself, the Puerto Wing, and Civil Air Patrol.

CITATION TO ACCOMPANY BRONZE MEDAL OF VALOR To THOMAS G. HOEBINK
Second Lieutenant Thomas G. Hoebink, CAP, distinguished himself by conspicuous, heroic action by risking his own safety to save another on 14 February 1998. While returning home from a Wing Cadet Programs Conference, Lieutenant Hoebink and his son came upon a car that had hit a tree in the center divider of the highway. As they stopped to render aid, Lieutenant Hoebink realized the victim was trapped in the car and had sustained life-threatening injuries. After gathering his first aid kit and attempting to stop the bleeding, another motorist stopped to help them stabilize the victim and try to remove him from the vehicle. During the entire rescue procedures Lieutenant Hoebink and the other individuals were working in the center divider of a major highway with no guard rails or traffic guards to protect them from possible injury as passing motorists speed by trying to get a look at the scene. Although the victim died in the midst of the rescue, Lieutenant Hoebink's heroic action, quick thinking and complete disregard for his own personal safety reflects great credit upon himself, the California Wing, and Civil Air Patrol.

CITATION TO ACCOMPANY BRONZE MEDAL OF VALOR TO JOHN T. HOEBINK
Cadet John T. Hoebink, CAP, distinguished himself by conspicuous, heroic action by risking his own safety to save another on 14 February 1998. While returning home from a Wing Cadet Programs Conference, Cadet Hoebink and his father came upon a car that had hit a tree in the center divider of the highway. As they stopped to render aid, Cadet Hoebink's father realized the victim was trapped in the car and had sustained life-threatening injuries. After gathering their first aid kit and attempting to stop the bleeding, another motorist stopped to help them stabilize the victim and try to remove him from the vehicle. During the entire rescue procedures Cadet Hoebink and the other individuals were working in the center divider of a major highway with no guard rails or traffic guards to protect them from possible injury as passing motorists speed by trying to get a look at the scene. Although the victim died in the midst of the rescue, Cadet Hoebink's heroic action, quick thinking and complete disregard for his own personal safety reflects great credit upon himself, the California Wing, and Civil Air Patrol.

CITATION TO ACCOMPANY BRONZE MEDAL OF VALOR TO JOE B HINSON
"Major Joe B. Hinson, CAP, distinguished himself by conspicuous, heroic action on 26 December 1998. While traveling to his hunting camp in Georgia, Major Hinson heard on his CB radio that a state trooper had pulled over a motorist to give him a ticket. He was approximately 15 miles south of the location. As he passed the vehicles in question, he noticed the trooper was in an altercation with the motorist and Major Hinson pulled his vehicle to the side of the road to see if he could be of assistance to the trooper. The state trooper indicated that he needed assistance and Major Hinson assisted the trooper in handcuffing the motorist. After securing the motorist in the back of the state trooper's vehcile, Major Hinson stayed with the trooper until his backup arrived. Major Hinson's quick thinking, heroic action, and complete disregard for his own personal safety reflects great credit upon himself, the Florida Wing, and Civil Air Patrol."
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: teesquared on December 13, 2008, 05:56:21 PM
This is the one I wrote up for the young man in our squadron who got a SMOV.


CITATION TO ACCOMPANY SILVER MEDAL OF VALOR TO ADAM T. RAE
Cadet Adam T. Rae, CAP, distinguished himself by conspicuous, heroic action when he risked his own life to save another on 20 August 2005. While driving home with two of his friends, Cadet Rae witnessed a horrific car crash. The car hit two trees at an extremely high rate of speed, and actually broke in half. Rae stopped his car and jumped out. He ran to the nearest portion of the wreck, and saw a passenger inside who obviously had not survived. Then Adam heard a woman bystander scream that the driver was trapped inside the front half, and the vehicle had caught on fire. With disregard for his own safety, Rae ran to the car and was able to open the door. He managed to unfasten the driver's seat belt, burning his hands in the process. He dragged the driver out and away from the burning wreck. His two friends, meanwhile, ran to a nearby restaurant, and got two fire extinguishers. As Rae examined the driver he noted the man was unconscious, and had massive wounds and profuse bleeding. An arriving Colorado State Trooper gave Rae a set of medical gloves, and he attempted to stem the blood flow by asking for shirts from the gathering spectators. Cadet Rae noticed that the man was having trouble breathing because of an accumulation of blood in his airway. He immediately began CPR. As his friends attempted to extinguish the fire, flame-ups twice exploded, knocking all three to the ground. With continued disregard to his own personal safety Rae performed CPR on the victim for 12 minutes until firefighters arrived. A firefighter took over CPR and Rae intubated the victim, and operated the bag valve mask while also tending to the victim's massive head wounds. Cadet Adam Rae remained cool in an emergency, and exhibited a courage and perserverance that belie his age of less than eighteen years. He is credited by the emergency personnel at the scene and by the American Red Cross with saving a life at obvious peril to his own. Cadet Rae's quick thinking, heroic action, and complete disregard for his own personal safety reflects great credit upon himself, Thompson Valley Composite Squadron, the Colorado Wing, and Civil Air Patrol.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Gunner C on December 14, 2008, 02:16:50 AM
Wow!  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: major pain on December 14, 2008, 02:33:14 AM
i would be interested in this,

also Gen. Rich Anderson was awarded a SMV... be one more member that is still active to contact
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on December 14, 2008, 10:31:10 AM
Quote from: major pain on December 14, 2008, 02:33:14 AM
i would be interested in this,

also Gen. Rich Anderson was awarded a SMV... be one more member that is still active to contact

Gen. Anderson is a current member. We have about 20 on the books. Please send me a PM with contact info and I will add you to the list.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: SJFedor on December 15, 2008, 10:57:26 PM
Quote from: teesquared on December 13, 2008, 05:56:21 PM
...A firefighter took over CPR and Rae intubated the victim, and operated the bag valve mask while also tending to the victim's massive head wounds...[/font]

Was this a typo?

Just wondering, since you stated he was less than 18. CO requires EMT's to be 18+, and intubation is an advanced airway technique which isn't part of first aid/CPR training...
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Gunner C on December 16, 2008, 09:44:32 AM
Quote from: SJFedor on December 15, 2008, 10:57:26 PM
Quote from: teesquared on December 13, 2008, 05:56:21 PM
...A firefighter took over CPR and Rae intubated the victim, and operated the bag valve mask while also tending to the victim's massive head wounds...[/font]

Was this a typo?

Just wondering, since you stated he was less than 18. CO requires EMT's to be 18+, and intubation is an advanced airway technique which isn't part of first aid/CPR training...

When I was an EMT-B we could tube someone, but at our level we had to use a combi-tube.  Nevertheless, it's not necessarily an advanced technique.

Gunner
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: JayT on December 18, 2008, 03:47:56 AM
Combi-Tube is considered Advanced airway in New York, they don't let our EMT-B's combi-tube.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Gunner C on December 18, 2008, 09:51:05 AM
Quote from: JThemann on December 18, 2008, 03:47:56 AM
Combi-Tube is considered Advanced airway in New York, they don't let our EMT-B's combi-tube.
That's a shame - it's fairly fool-proof:  self corrects if the EMT gets the tube in the esophagus rather than the trachea; the patient is still ventilated.

Gunner
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: JayT on December 18, 2008, 02:51:42 PM
Yeah, it is.

It'll be in the next round of protocol updates, according to our Academy intructors.

Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: MIKE on December 18, 2008, 04:25:36 PM
Topic or lock.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: PhoenixRisen on December 24, 2008, 11:44:04 PM
Quote from: caphistorian on March 14, 2008, 06:14:00 PM
Silver Medal of Valor. Distinguished and conspicuous heroic action, at the risk of life, above and beyond the call of normal duty.

b. Bronze Medal of Valor. Distinguished and conspicuous heroic action where danger to self is probable and known. (NOTE: In cases where a member is credited with saving a human life, but where the act does not meet the criteria for the Silver or Bronze Medal of Valor, the member should be recommended for a Certificate of Recognition in accordance with paragraph 9g.)


Just tryin' to clear up a question I've had.  If you're a member of, say a fire department or police department, and you do something heroic while on their time, can someone nominate you for these?  I've heard many that say you need to have done something while in a CAP capacity, and then I read some of these citations...

???
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: lordmonar on December 24, 2008, 11:48:49 PM
No....does not have to be in your "CAP capacity".

As a precendent I point out the Community Service Ribbon is awarded for actions that are completely outside of your CAP capaacity.

Most awards are for actions/service in the benifit of CAP...but Medals of Valor and Life Saving can be for when you are joe civilian on the street as well as Joe Ground Team Member/Aircrew Member.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Timbo on December 25, 2008, 06:56:09 AM
So an EMT/ or Paramedic can receive these awards just for doing their job??

If that is the case, I can technically say that "through my surgical endeavors I have saved the lives of many".

 
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: lordmonar on December 25, 2008, 08:10:06 AM
Quote from: Timbo on December 25, 2008, 06:56:09 AM
So an EMT/ or Paramedic can receive these awards just for doing their job??

If that is the case, I can technically say that "through my surgical endeavors I have saved the lives of many".

I would caviate that with the "above and beyond the call of normal duty" line.

An EMT or Fireman should not get a CAP award for "normal duty"...but if they went beyond...then yes give them a CAP award.

If you in your "surgical endeavors" go beyond the call of normal duty then you should get a lifesaving award.....just as the EMT should if they go beyond the normal call of duty.

It sucks that an EMT doing CPR on someone gets no award but Joe Cadet who does the same thing gets one....but is just the way things go...always has....and not just in CAP.   

My point is that you don't have to be on "CAP Time" to qualify for an award.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on December 25, 2008, 02:14:55 PM
The key to this is supposed to be Non Compensated. This is why there is a vetting process. Many times even professional medical, fire, ems, and such go beyond there trained duties and still deserve it. If you are an EMT who is off duty and stop to render aid to someone in a burning building than you dont necessarily have the proper equipment to help. This is a subjective part of the process. You can argue this until the blog runs out of space but it is going to be based on each individual case.

This does not have to be on CAP time. Mine was not and most have not been.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: major pain on December 25, 2008, 02:20:59 PM
mine was on cap time but not in a cap mission....
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Flying Pig on December 25, 2008, 08:12:02 PM
I feel that if you are on duty as a cop, fire, EMS, etc. where your job involves certain risks, you don't get a medal every time you do CPR of show up at an accident and direct traffic.  However, in the case of a police officer for example, if your department chooses to step out and say you did something above and beyond, then CAP should recognize those on a case by case basis.  Contrary to popular Hollywood belief, EMS and law enforcement are not required to risk their lives to do anything.  Many do because that is who they are.
My case, I was awarded a Medal of Valor and Lifesaving Medal as a police officer.  Not for a gun battle or a SWAT action or chasing a criminal.  But for using a crow bar and my hands trying to pull a driver from a burning car, while the driver himself and the interior of the car was burning.  I can assure my partner and I were not thinking about our monthly salary.  I was submitted for a SMoV but found out years later that it had never been mailed in after I found the envelope and the 2a in an abandoned desk in the Sq.   However, I was unofficially tld that I wouldnt have qualified because I was on duty and trained to handle events like this.  What did I take away from it?  That this persons idea was that only untrained civilians who had no idea what they were getting into were the only ones who rate valor awards.  Which I know not to be the case.  Oh well.....

However, to say that I am excluded from a CAP decoration because I happened to be collecting a pay check at the time is ridiculous.  I dont want to sound like someone who is a medal hound, because I assure you I am not.  However I find it selfishly belittles the actions when peoples arguments are "Well, you were getting paid." I have also heard the argument of "Well, its not fair because those types of people, fire, police, EMS are always in those positions."  I agree.
That is why my argument is when your peers, people who have been in similar circumstances, step back and recognize your actions, I don't think its asking to much for CAP to do the same.  The actions of a CAP member on or off duty, in or out of CAP contribute to the membership and reputation of CAP.  If we are going to restrict people who are paid professionals, then lets make it across the board that you have to be on a CAP mission contributing to CAP to be considered or any decorations.
 
The only thing my employment brought to the situation was placing me in a position to make a decision. I, like any other recipient, made the decision to act. 
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Stonewall on December 25, 2008, 08:37:52 PM
Similarly, this is why I was okay with it when my buddy sent a letter to my CAP Squadron Commander suggesting that I be awarded the Life Saving medal; because I was completely off duty, at the beach and wasn't obligated due to my job.  Still not sure why it never went anywhere, or if it did, got denied.

For a couple years in my life I was a volunteer firefighter, while I was in CAP.  I went into 3 or 4 burning buildings to look for people.  I personally cut people from vehicles where they were trapped, and I personally performed CPR several times...all "on duty".

I never felt that while on duty as a public safety professional, either as a volunteer firefighter or cop, that I would be deserving of a CAP award for something I did on the job.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Duke Dillio on December 25, 2008, 10:57:02 PM
My ex put me in for one about two years ago for pulling all of our kids out of my truck after it rolled while we were moving to California.  I was an EMT-B in CO and I have to tell you that the hardest thing I have ever had to do was pick up my 4 month old son up off the road after he was ejected from the vehicle during the roll.  I then pulled my two daughters and son out of the truck before trying to get my ex out.  Her left leg was trapped under the truck and I tried to lift the truck up to get her out.  I was able to get it up just enough to where she could reposition her leg.  Then, I punched out the windshield so that I could get her a blanket.  This was Nov. 2006 in Utah so it was pretty darned cold.  It is amazing what you do when you don't even think about things.  She put me in about two years ago and we still haven't heard anything since.

BTW - My son was ejected after his car seat failed.  When I found him, he was laying on top of one of my duffel bags that I had strapped to the roof of the truck.  He had a small cut on the back of his head which was bleeding.  I thought that it was going to be bad but as it turns out, he was perfectly fine except for the cut.  There were some angels working that day...
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: RiverAux on December 25, 2008, 11:00:23 PM
I have always felt that CAP awards should only be given for actions done on CAP time.  To give a CAP award for something done outside of CAP seems somewhat dishonest on the part of CAP as it is if CAP is claiming "credit" for the action.  Now, if the action is done while being paid or while serving with another organization, it is even less legitimate in my eyes for CAP to give an award for that action.  It should be up to them to give any award that is warranted.  

But, I wouldn't get bent out of shape if we gave a CAP award to a CAP member if they utilized a skill learned while in CAP (first aid) to save somebody's life.  Thats about as far as I would go though.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Flying Pig on December 25, 2008, 11:07:46 PM
So as a law enforcement officer, if I was OFF duty, and performed the same act, Id be eligible for a CAP award? Even though legally, I would be eligible for overtime when I am forced to jump into my Deputy role.  So if I put in the overtime card, Im not eligible, if I dont put in the overtime card, Im good in the eyes of CAP's awarding criteria.  Got it.

What's funny, is if I was off duty, or even on a CAP mission and performed an act of valor, my police agency wouldnt hesitate to award a valor or lifesaving medal for something I did in a CAP capacity.  Id be just as dead if something went wrong in either scenario.   Im expected to be a cop 24/7, but CAP I leave at the door one night a week at 2100hrs. Oh well, just my opinion.
Id have to say River has the best scenario.  100% CAP mission related or nothing if we are going to start picking and choosing.

Ill add this.....I recieved a PM last time this was discussed some time ago, either on here or cadetstuff when it came up, and the person who sent the PM actually told me "its not fair because your always in those situations."  BELIEVE ME...Im not.    That pretty much summed it up for me.

Look Im not trying to come across like a jerk.  If I was a medal hound, I wouldnt have waited 6-7 years to even follow up on a 2a I thought had been mailed.  I dont want the wrong impression to come across on this wonderful medium we call the internet.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Duke Dillio on December 25, 2008, 11:33:07 PM
I would respectfully disagree for the simple reason that CAP doesn't want us doing anything dangerous while we are performing our duties.  Safety is number one.  I'm pretty sure that if I were to jump into a burning plane to try to pull people out, the safety officer would have a heart attack.  Also, if I am in a CAP uniform and I run into a burning building to pull people out and I am injured or killed, does my family then have the "right" to sue CAP for my death?  Is CAP going to pay my medical bills?

If I am on a ground team during a missing person search and I find a victim at the bottom of a 30' cliff, CAP doesn't want me to rappel to the bottom to tend to them.  I am absolutely certain that I possess the knowledge and skills necessary to do that but CAP would most likely rather have me wait there until someone else arrives to do that.

I seem to recall an old CAP myth that in this case you could call the mission base and check yourself out and then do that as a private citizen but I have never heard of anyone actually doing that.  The point of these awards is to make CAP look good while limiting liability to the organization.  That's why I believe that people should have every right to earn these awards while "off-duty."

Now, getting an SMOV for directing traffic at a car crash certainly would not usually be warranted but that is another thread...
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Flying Pig on December 25, 2008, 11:37:15 PM
If I jumped into a burning plane to pull people out and survived........the safety officer could kiss my ........ ;D
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Duke Dillio on December 25, 2008, 11:38:43 PM
^^^  Touche...

Then again, I know I'd do the same thing...
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on December 26, 2008, 12:03:32 AM
Please remember this thread is about the Medal of Valor Association and is not discussing the validity of who or what should qualify. I am not myself saying anything about what the qualification should be for the SMV or BMV. 39-1 has that information and if you need to clear up any subjective opinions than they should call NHQ.

I personally do not feel that being a paid professional should negate any recognition from any organization. I would ask that another thread be started about what and who qualifies for these awards.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Flying Pig on December 26, 2008, 12:18:35 AM
Well, back to the subject..

I would love to see, somewhere at National, to have a photo and a citation for every SM or BM awarded. In my law enforcement agency, the halls of the HQ building have a photo and citation for our Valor Awards.  Its neat to walk down the halls and see.  Fortunately, MOST of the people pictured are still working.

By the way...who is the President of the MoV Assc?
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Duke Dillio on December 26, 2008, 12:19:49 AM
That would be something the MOV Association could do.  They could make a CAP Hall of Honor or something...
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on December 26, 2008, 10:47:04 AM
Quote from: Flying Pig on December 26, 2008, 12:18:35 AM
Well, back to the subject..

I would love to see, somewhere at National, to have a photo and a citation for every SM or BM awarded. In my law enforcement agency, the halls of the HQ building have a photo and citation for our Valor Awards.  Its neat to walk down the halls and see.  Fortunately, MOST of the people pictured are still working.

By the way...who is the President of the MoV Assc?

We are working on the online version of the wall at this time. It takes alot of time and research.

MOVA President is Lt. Col. Todd Engelman, CAP. GAWG IG and SER Asst Historian
MOVA Vice-President is me.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: PlaneFlyr on January 26, 2009, 08:16:48 PM
Quote from: Flying Pig on December 26, 2008, 12:18:35 AM
Well, back to the subject..

I would love to see, somewhere at National, to have a photo and a citation for every SM or BM awarded. In my law enforcement agency, the halls of the HQ building have a photo and citation for our Valor Awards.  Its neat to walk down the halls and see.  Fortunately, MOST of the people pictured are still working.

By the way...who is the President of the MoV Assc?

I'm the president at the moment.  Once we've gotten the organization up an running, I hope to hold elections so someone else can carry the group forward.

We founded the group for several reasons.  One is to help other members and their families.  Another is to do additional efforts to help CAP (motivational speaking, etc.).  And another is for comeraderie. 

I'm hoping to get a newsletter out to as many members as possible in a month or so (work and family duties permitting).  In it, I plan to make a few proposals for the direction of the organization, talk about some members activities, and request for feedback. 

If any recipients have recommendations or want more information, feel free to send me a message.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: teesquared on February 25, 2009, 12:53:01 AM
...A firefighter took over CPR and Rae intubated the victim, and operated the bag valve mask while also tending to the victim's massive head wounds...

Was this a typo?


I just wrote what he told me.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on August 10, 2009, 08:48:24 PM
I am finally able to put my citation up. It has been a couple of years and the "rules" have changed because of me leaving my employeer.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on November 20, 2009, 02:32:20 PM
Lt. Col. Richard Greenwood SMV recipient from GAWG has been selected as GAWG Vice Commander. He received the SMV on 08/27/05. Congrats and condolences Richard!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on March 31, 2010, 06:12:47 PM
Greetings all!!

I have started a Medal of Valor Association page on Facebook. It is new and I am still learning about the features. If you are a recipient of the Medal of Valor I invite you to join. This is for both the Bronze and Silver Medal of Valor.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: cbrnc123 on April 24, 2010, 06:08:52 PM
Let me know when this Facebook page is up and running. I have a BMOV from the 1960's. Thanks!
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on November 16, 2010, 05:15:46 PM
I need two really good graphic images for the SMV and BMV if anyone has some available. They will be blown up to about 8X10.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: CAPSCOUT on November 22, 2010, 05:40:11 PM
Hi,
I was awarded the BMV in 1999. Looking forward to networking with other MOV personnel.

LtCol Darrel D. Williamson, CAP
Indiana Wing Inspector General
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on November 22, 2010, 06:00:43 PM
Quote from: CAPSCOUT on November 22, 2010, 05:40:11 PM
I was awarded the BMV in 1999. Looking forward to networking with other MOV personnel.

Glad to hear from you. We are still building the group and welcome all recipients.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Flying Pig on November 22, 2010, 06:56:01 PM
I was suppossed to be put in for one, but the commander forgot to send it in and I found it in a desk drawer about 4 years later! ;D
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: bosshawk on November 23, 2010, 05:48:24 PM
Sounds like something that I have experieced, only with a different award.  Welcome to CAWG. :clap:
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: CAP_truth on November 24, 2010, 01:20:26 AM
Here is some pics
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on December 31, 2010, 12:39:49 PM
 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) Please Read   :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Greetings all, I have a challenge and a request for members of this board. I am trying to find fellow recipients of the Medal of Valor. Please read below and look at the list.

In an effort to reach and find more recipients I would like to enlist the assistance of my fellow CAP Talkers. Here is the challenge.
Find an SMV or BMV recipient. This person can be in your squadron or group or maybe just someone you know. Get me their contact information and when I make a connection with them. The person who finds them will receive one of the Medal of Valor Association bronze toned coins. The SMV or BMV recipient will be sent one of the silver challenge coins. I have listed the people I have contact information for and have spoken too over the last couple of years.

The first person who gives the info will receive the coin. If I have two people give me the same person the first one will receive the coin assuming that the contact information is correct. I will only give one coin per person.

If the person who finds them is a recipient they won't get another coin, just the satisfaction of knowing we have found another member.

This is a list of those I have already.

Randy Kraatz
Tony Tarpy
Ron Snorgrass
Marc Cohen
Rich Anderson
Mark Ashcraft
Tim Steppan
Kristofer Copes
Todd Engelman
Richard Greenwood
Jim Winney
Randall Wisener
Phillip Malone
Lujis Cubano
Darrell Williamson
Johnnie Pantanelli
Robert Frisch
Clyde Webb
Chris Robbins
Malcolm Webb
Thomas Plass
Stephan Antolini
Joseph Ingram
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on January 01, 2011, 08:07:26 PM
Thanks Tim Medeiros

Lt Col Robert Ashman SMV recipient from 2005
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: MSG Mac on January 02, 2011, 11:25:14 PM
Bobbie Tourville at National Headquarters BMV
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: IceNine on January 03, 2011, 06:11:21 AM
Does calling you out and submitting your contact info count? :D
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on January 03, 2011, 02:42:32 PM
Quote from: MSG Mac on January 02, 2011, 11:25:14 PM
Bobbie Tourville at National Headquarters BMV

I know her personally and have her info but I forgot to put it on there. I will honor my request and send you one of the coins. Please PM you address and it will be done.

Quote from: IceNine on January 03, 2011, 06:11:21 AM
Does calling you out and submitting your contact info count? :D

Very good. I didnt put mine because I am collecting but I will honor it the same. PM Address.  ;D


I have also added a PDF list of all known recipients. However we do not have info for everyone. Please check the list below and see if you know anyone new.


James Shaw
Randy Kraatz
Tony Tarpy
Ron Snorgrass
Marc Cohen
Rich Anderson
Mark Ashcraft
Tim Steppan
Kristofer Copes
Todd Engelman
Richard Greenwood
Jim Winney
Randall Wisener
Phillip Malone
Lujis Cubano
Darrell Williamson
Johnnie Pantanelli
Robert Frisch
Clyde Webb
Chris Robbins
Malcolm Webb
Thomas Plass
Stephan Antolini
Joseph Ingram
Paul Marsters
Adam Rae
Bob Deckwa
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: MSG Mac on January 03, 2011, 05:37:27 PM
Quote from: caphistorian on January 03, 2011, 02:42:32 PM
Quote from: MSG Mac on January 02, 2011, 11:25:14 PM
Bobbie Tourville at National Headquarters BMV

I know her personally and have her info but I forgot to put it on there. I will honor my request and send you one of the coins. Please PM you address and it will be done
[/qoute]

PM Sent

I know you knew her we all met while waiting for the Fligt to San Diego in August.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: MSG Mac on January 03, 2011, 05:43:55 PM
Quote from: IceNine on January 03, 2011, 06:11:21 AM
Does calling you out and submitting your contact info count? :D

There was nothing given that wasn't in the news release that announced the award. 
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on January 03, 2011, 07:09:41 PM
Quote from: MSG Mac on January 03, 2011, 05:43:55 PM
Quote from: IceNine on January 03, 2011, 06:11:21 AM
Does calling you out and submitting your contact info count? :D

There was nothing given that wasn't in the news release that announced the award.

Mine was in August of 2007, I am old news and forgotten easy !! :)
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on January 03, 2011, 09:56:03 PM
Add Jerry Alsum to the list 

The only member to receive 2 Silver Medals of Valor
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on January 03, 2011, 10:04:02 PM
How does he wear those ribbons and medals? Do you just wear two ribbons, and two medals?
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: JeffDG on January 03, 2011, 10:07:59 PM
Quote from: caphistorian on January 03, 2011, 09:56:03 PM
Add Jerry Alsum to the list 

The only member to receive 2 Silver Medals of Valor
I'd love to read the citations for those!
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: RiverAux on January 03, 2011, 11:05:18 PM
Quote from: caphistorian on January 03, 2011, 02:42:32 PM
James Shaw
Randy Kraatz
Tony Tarpy
Ron Snorgrass
Marc Cohen
Rich Anderson
Mark Ashcraft
Tim Steppan
Kristofer Copes
Todd Engelman
Richard Greenwood
Jim Winney
Randall Wisener
Phillip Malone
Lujis Cubano
Darrell Williamson
Johnnie Pantanelli
Robert Frisch
Clyde Webb
Chris Robbins
Malcolm Webb
Thomas Plass
Stephan Antolini
Joseph Ingram
Paul Marsters
Adam Rae
Bob Deckwa
Is this the list of people you are looking for or the people that are already currently part of the association? 
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on January 04, 2011, 02:51:11 AM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on January 03, 2011, 10:04:02 PM
How does he wear those ribbons and medals? Do you just wear two ribbons, and two medals?

If he were still in CAP he would wear two SMV ribbons because it has 3 silver stars on it. That is all that can be worn on it. There fore he qualifies to wear two seperate ribbons. Yes he would also wear two of the mini medals.



The list of names are the people we have contact informaiton for and have agreed to participate. After we get the list we are going to start working on collecting copies of the citations.

Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: greyhawk on February 18, 2011, 11:45:22 PM
Please add me of the list.  I was awarded the BMV on 18 Sept 1968.

Gerald Martin, MSgt, USAF (Ret)
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Conical on February 19, 2011, 12:03:37 AM
Add Emmett F. Hohensee.  I believe SMV.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Pumperpal on February 26, 2011, 05:43:27 AM
Quote from: JeffDG on January 03, 2011, 10:07:59 PM
Quote from: caphistorian on January 03, 2011, 09:56:03 PM
Add Jerry Alsum to the list 

The only member to receive 2 Silver Medals of Valor
I'd love to read the citations for those!
I'd be happy to email you or anyone else my citation or the stories behind my medals
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Pumperpal on February 26, 2011, 06:14:43 AM
Yes I'm Jerry Alsum and both of my SMV were from CAP searches here in Colorado.  The first one can be found by by Goggling my name or watching the YouTube video under "Recovery of Flight 217". The second involved following the tracks of a pilot that had walked away from his "news" helicopter that was forced down on Wolf Creek Pass.  He headed directly down hill from his chopper into an avalanche chute.  He used the door off the chopper's storage compartment and the lid to a typewriter case as snow shoes.  Tells you how long ago that was!  We found him and guided him UPHILL to the pass road while feeling and hearing the snow settle under us as we crossed back over the avalanche chute.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Smithsonia on February 26, 2011, 02:57:47 PM
Jerry; (Pumperpal)
Welcome to the board. I saw your Dad a few weeks ago. Close to 80 - It looks like he could still lead a tough search. All the best to all of you.

Ladies and Gentlemen - Welcome the pointy end of the Colorado SAR spear from the finest Ground Team ever fielded by CAP. It is a pleasure to know you are around.

Here's the You Tubes that Jerry is referring to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EyJmkER-d8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VZJhTMURs4&feature=related

Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Pumperpal on February 27, 2011, 04:39:11 AM
Thanks Ed. Nice to hear from you again also.  CAP will always hold a special place in my heart. 
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Smithsonia on February 27, 2011, 05:11:30 AM
Jerry;
Given your life story and many deeds of valiant service, the Patrol and many lost aviators will always be in your debt.

For those of you interested in more of the largest single mission save in CAP history - for which Jerry (Gerald) Alsum received his first SMV - which was just one of around 500 missions and 50 saves his team was involved in - you can and should read the following material:
Here's a partial list:
1.   http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/dec/03/chadron-state-wrestlers-way-dia-injured-i-25-crash/
2.   http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/dec/04/pilot-savors-lifes-good-things-but-still-feels/
3.   http://www.craigdailypress.com/news/2008/jun/08/i_guess_i_was_destined/
4.   http://www.steamboatpilot.com/photos/2008/jun/8/
5.   http://www.steamboatpilot.com/photos/galleries/2008/jun/08/december_1978_plane_crash/
6.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EyJmkER-d8
7. http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/news/national_media_coverage/index.cfm/cap_media_coverage_4907
8.   www.coloradowingcap.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=89x6prGpSh0%3D&tabid=499&mid=1478
9.   http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/news/cap_news_online/index.cfm/mac_donald_former_colo_wing_commander_passes_4913
10. http://captalk.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=855320e72a7506672c51b624d5d8ac65&topic=6642.0
11. http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/dec/17/myers-remembering-the-rescue-of-flight-217/
12. Additionally, I built a forty square foot exhibit including 65 elements, objects, narratives, pictures, aircraft debris, artifacts, mementos, stories, memorials, credits, and appreciations of the Flight 217 incident. This exhibit is at Wings Over the Rockies Air and Space Museum, Denver, CO. -- the location is here: http://www.wingsmuseum.org/
13. Scott Orr of CAP did this story:  http://denver.yourhub.com/Aurora/Stories/News/General-News/Story~588046.aspx?IsDraft=False
14. Another Denver Post Story: http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_11844780
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on April 28, 2011, 03:27:58 PM
I have recreated some of the older proposed designs for the MOV from 1956. They were rejected by the Heraldic Department of the Quartermaster General on July 2, 1956 for resembling the Silver Star. They instead went with the current design.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on May 12, 2011, 01:09:11 PM
Courtesy of Gerald  Alsum. This is a copy of both of his Silver Medal of Valor Citations. The only member in CAP's history to receive two Silver Medals of Valor. Thanks to Gerald for sending them to me for archive and sharing.
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: James Shaw on November 09, 2012, 02:26:14 PM
Congratulations Major Debra Prosser of Nevada Wing

She was awarded the Bronze medal for an act that involved saving the life of a 8 year girl that had been shot during a firefight outside of a house in Las Vegas.  I believe Deb was helping some people move when the shooting occured, upon hearing the gunshots She immediately went outside to see what was going on. Upong going outside she saw that a little girl had been struck by a bullet. Debra with disregard for her personal safety adminstered life saving first aid to this little girl while there was still immininent danger from the shooter. She stayed with her until the area had been cleared by police and the ambulance could safely enter the area and take over.

Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on November 09, 2012, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: caphistorian on November 09, 2012, 02:26:14 PM
Congratulations Major Debra Prosser of Nevada Wing

She was awarded the Bronze medal for an act that involved saving the life of a 8 year girl that had been shot during a firefight outside of a house in Las Vegas.  I believe Deb was helping some people move when the shooting occured, upon hearing the gunshots She immediately went outside to see what was going on. Upong going outside she saw that a little girl had been struck by a bullet. Debra with disregard for her personal safety adminstered life saving first aid to this little girl while there was still immininent danger from the shooter. She stayed with her until the area had been cleared by police and the ambulance could safely enter the area and take over.

:clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Medal of Valor Association
Post by: SARDOC on November 09, 2012, 07:17:11 PM
VERY NICE WORK.  SEMPER VIGILIANS