Morale Patches...?

[dokhtsafid]

Are morale patches allowed on our BDUs? I can't seem to find a reg on this. 

Thanks 

[Luis R. Ramos]

Look in the tables that 39-1 has. Are there any morale patches? If yes, they are allowed. If not, they are not.

Also read the ICL related to uniforms. Does it list any morale patch? Apply the same reasoning.

Flyer

[Garibaldi]

Short answer...no. The only patches allowed on the BDU is what's listed in CAPM 39-1 or an ICL (interim change letter). Patches awarded by a NCSA are authorized, however, but morale patches are not.

[HGjunkie]

A better question - What's your favorite place to get morale patches?

[TexasCadet]

A better question - What's your favorite place to get morale patches?

I tend to get more of the "real" patches... such as a Multicam Texas flag.

[sarmed1]

Morale patches arent allowed on military uniforms for that matter.....
"Allowed" and "not enforced" are not the same thing

Just out of curisioty, what kind of morale patches are we talking here...

mk

[Phil Hirons, Jr.]

One of my favorites. Sized to fit on the pencil / pen pocket on the flight suit sleeve.

[Storm Chaser]

Are morale patches allowed on our BDUs? I can't seem to find a reg on this. 

Thanks 

No.

[THRAWN]

Why? The whole multicolored uniform is a morale patch.

[Storm Chaser]

Morale patches are unofficial and ONLY official patches (to include authorized unit and activity patches) can be worn with the CAP uniform.

[Hawk200]

Are morale patches allowed on our BDUs? I can't seem to find a reg on this. 

Thanks 

Simple rule of thumb: If it doesn't say you can, or it specifically says you can't, then it isn't permitted. (Keep in mind, this is a rule of thumb.)

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Morale patches are unofficial and ONLY official patches (to include authorized unit and activity patches) can be worn with the CAP uniform.

Officially, anyhow.

[Mustang]

One of my favorites. Sized to fit on the pencil / pen pocket on the flight suit sleeve.

That's some clever stuff right there.

;-)

[Walkman]

I don't have a photo of mine at hand, but this is my favorite morale patch. I plan on sewing mine to my new 24hr pack at some point soon.

[Private Investigator]

I don't have a photo of mine at hand, but this is my favorite morale patch. I plan on sewing mine to my new 24hr pack at some point soon.

I like that! I am going to sew one on my khakis 

[Shuman 14]

I don't have a photo of mine at hand, but this is my favorite morale patch. I plan on sewing mine to my new 24hr pack at some point soon.

I like that! I am going to sew one on my khakis 

Replacing the Wing Patch? 

[ol'fido]

I ordered three of those from Ace when he first put them out there. I gave one each to the commander and first sergeant at the ILARNG facility where we hold summer encampment. They really liked them. I still have one for myself.

[unmlobo]

While morale patches are fun, they shouldn't be used on the CAP gear like 24hr pack and such.  I have a couple but they are stuck to my top of my car or a jacket I wear in civilian clothes.  Wear this on a uniform or military item you will be told to take it off.  I did this once as a young dumb Amn three years ago; never again.  I am just going to leave this link here that talks about items like this, such as KCCO. 

http://www.cadetstuff.org/you-are-only-as-sharp-as-your-creases/#more-747

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I like these:

http://cadetdirect.com/order1.php?pg=2887

[MacGruff]

While morale patches are fun, they shouldn't be used on the CAP gear like 24hr pack and such.  I have a couple but they are stuck to my top of my car or a jacket I wear in civilian clothes.  Wear this on a uniform or military item you will be told to take it off.  I did this once as a young dumb Amn three years ago; never again.  I am just going to leave this link here that talks about items like this, such as KCCO. 

http://www.cadetstuff.org/you-are-only-as-sharp-as-your-creases/#more-747

I really like this article!

[UH60guy]

Here's the Army Aviation not-so-secret for wearing morale patches. Velcro to your flight helmet. CAP version- I'm sure you can get some velcro tape from Wal Mart and stick it to your David Clarks for use in the aircraft. What makes this solution great is that the regs don't get into headsets, and it's done through velcro so you can easily remove it if you need to be serious (VIP transport, public relations, etc).

I'd conservatively estimate 85%* of Army pilots have (at a minimum) a fun meter pegged out on their flight helmet


*note, coincidentally, 85% of statistics are also made up on the spot.


Again, and I stress this, it really depends on the situation. Morale patches pretty much by definition are breaking regulations, or at least the spirit of them (uniformity). You really need to assess what you're doing, the situation, the appearance you present, and how you can handle the repercussions when you invariably get told to knock it off.

[Pulsar]

While morale patches are fun, they shouldn't be used on the CAP gear like 24hr pack and such.  I have a couple but they are stuck to my top of my car or a jacket I wear in civilian clothes.  Wear this on a uniform or military item you will be told to take it off.  I did this once as a young dumb Amn three years ago; never again.  I am just going to leave this link here that talks about items like this, such as KCCO. 

http://www.cadetstuff.org/you-are-only-as-sharp-as-your-creases/#more-747

I really like this article!

really?...I really, really, really,really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really like it and others...

[Phil Hirons, Jr.]

I can't find an image of my other favorite.

Mission Base (or Staff) done up in Dunkin' Donuts font & colors.

[FlyTiger77]

I have misplaced my "PowerPoint" ranger tab that I wore under the flap of my shoulder sleeve in Iraq. 

[NIN]

Here's the Army Aviation not-so-secret for wearing morale patches. Velcro to your flight helmet. CAP version- I'm sure you can get some velcro tape from Wal Mart and stick it to your David Clarks for use in the aircraft. What makes this solution great is that the regs don't get into headsets, and it's done through velcro so you can easily remove it if you need to be serious (VIP transport, public relations, etc).

I'd conservatively estimate 85%* of Army pilots have (at a minimum) a fun meter pegged out on their flight helmet

Back in the bad old days of P/NVS-5s and "beaucoup velcro" on the SPH-4 to help hold it on or balance it out, I kept more than a few things velcro'd to the back of my bonedome.

State flag
"You call, we haul"
"Chinooks haul above all"
I even had an embroidered version of the old "He ain't heavy, he's my brother" shirt with a -47 hauling a -60 (the natural state of the UH-60 in the mid 1980s)

[Eclipse]

I have the fun meter one in both versions (high and low).

I designed one I thought was cool, but haven't found a vendor that will make them since
they are a riff on a corporate logo.

I have to mea-culpa big-time to Ace Browning on all the grief I gave him regarding the HD-GTM patches about copyright, etc.,
though he hasn't been around since April of last year.

http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=5571.0

So, mea culpa.

I can't find an image of my other favorite.

Mission Base (or Staff) done up in Dunkin' Donuts font & colors.

[Brad]

Apparently the US National Reconnaissance Office is not adverse to the idea of off-the-wall patches, morale or actual unit-wise...



http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/12/06/nothing-is-beyond-our-reach-nro-new-logo-claims/

[TexasCadet]

While morale patches are fun, they shouldn't be used on the CAP gear like 24hr pack and such.  I have a couple but they are stuck to my top of my car or a jacket I wear in civilian clothes.  Wear this on a uniform or military item you will be told to take it off.  I did this once as a young dumb Amn three years ago; never again.  I am just going to leave this link here that talks about items like this, such as KCCO. 

http://www.cadetstuff.org/you-are-only-as-sharp-as-your-creases/#more-747

I have an American flag on my 24-hour pack, and I am debating on whether to put a name tape on it. While an American flag is not a morale patch, what actually defines a "morale" patch?

[Eclipse]

Neither a flag or a nametape, nor any other CAP insignia would be consider "morale patches" - those are generally some
sarcastic / ironic / satirical take off on a real patch, and frankly I don't really see any issue with putting whatever you
want on your gear, since it's equipment, not uniform.

[a2capt]

A space shuttle crew mission patch could be looked as an "approved" morale patch.

Something that a group of you can share a common bond over, usually with a bit of humor.

The items in this thread are great examples, actually.

[GroundHawg]

Neither a flag or a nametape, nor any other CAP insignia would be consider "moral patches" - those are generally some
sarcastic / ironic / satirical take off on a real patch, and frankly I don't really see any issue with putting whatever you
want on your gear, since it's equipment, not uniform.

On 12/08/13 I agreed with Eclipse. I can now retire to Belize as I know the apocalypse is upon us...

[gruntmp]

I really miss my "Suck Meter" patch right now!

[ol'fido]

I want a "Mickey Mouse Meter" patch for uniform threads.

[UWONGO2]

Here's an example right off a guard unit's website:

http://www.161arw.ang.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/101117-F-1646D-035.jpg (sorry, this photo is HUGE, broadband definitely required)

Notice the guy on the right. Guess which airline he works for 

[PHall]

Here's an example right off a guard unit's website:

http://www.161arw.ang.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/101117-F-1646D-035.jpg (sorry, this photo is HUGE, broadband definitely required)

Notice the guy on the right. Guess which airline he works for 

Well considering he's in the AZ ANG at Phoenix-Sky Harbor, it's not surprising at all.

Morale patches are banned from wear by AFI 36-2903, but that never stopped anybody in my unit.
You just have to be smart on when you wear them.

[sarmed1]

.....

Morale patches are banned from wear by AFI 36-2903, but that never stopped anybody in my unit.
You just have to be smart on when you wear them.

I know this may come as a shock to most people in CAP; but there are about as many instances and as many people that violate the US Military's uniform regulations everyday.  The somehow misguided belief that "this kinda crap wouldnt fly in the "Real Military"  is over rated.  The same BS lines are used there.
a-My commander said it was authorized and he's a Col and you're not.
b-This is how my unit does it
c-I have always wore it/wore it here/wore it this way-and no one has ever said otherwise.
d-That's more of a guideline than a rule
e-Its the field
f-This is about practical, not about parades.
g-I have a profile.

and the list goes on.....

Sorry.... just a soap box moment.  The bandwagon thought:  is you know the rules, if you break them, dont be act all hurt when you get called out on them; morale patches are no different.... (and dont get your picture in the paper while you are doing it...)

mk

[sarmed1]

That being said I have quite a number that come out to play depending on the situation; military or civilian...
Fun meter (both directions), BS meter (redlined), FNG, paramedic, and secret squirrel (I used to have a SG1 patch that was known to show up on occasion, but cant seem to locate it any more)

mk

[Shuman 14]

That being said I have quite a number that come out to play depending on the situation; military or civilian...
Fun meter (both directions), BS meter (redlined), FNG, paramedic, and secret squirrel (I used to have a SG1 patch that was known to show up on occasion, but cant seem to locate it any more)

mk

http://www.stitchsloft.com/loft/sg-1-patch/

There you go! 

[Eclipse]

CAP is part of SG-6.

[UH60guy]

Nerd alert:

Though I wasn't in their unit, every now and then the other pilot in my UH-60 downrange would be from the Charlie Company "Vipers." I had a Battlestar Galactica viper pilot patch I adorned on the rear velcro of my flight helmet for such occasions.



The rest of the time, since we were in the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade, "Pegasus," I had a Battlestar Pegasus patch on the back.

On the front, I had a NASA "meatball" logo patch given to me by a NASA WB-57 pilot and former astronaut I met while overseas. Though I wore it with pride, somehow the NASA patch never did help me get accepted into the Space Shuttle door guner or ISS death ray operator program.

[Private Investigator]

On the front, I had a NASA "meatball" logo patch given to me by a NASA WB-57 pilot and former astronaut I met while overseas. Though I wore it with pride, somehow the NASA patch never did help me get accepted into the Space Shuttle door guner or ISS death ray operator program.

Everyone has a different persona while in America's Fantasyland, "Las Vegas". For some reason lots of people in Vegas always ask if I am a pilot at Nellis AFB. I always say, "no, I am an astronaut". 

[ol'fido]

Here's one that's a little obvious.

[Eclipse]

That's actually pretty awesome...

[ol'fido]

The simplest things are often the best.

[jeders]

Where can I get one?

[ol'fido]

This one is black.

http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/4495-ams-tactical-morale-patch-black-swat-premium-hi-fidelity-series.aspx

[NIN]

I'd line one that says "Patch, Morale. 1 ea."

[MIKE]

For NIN:

[ol'fido]

No, this is for NIN and Stonewall.

[NIN]

I am SO totally ordering that.

[ol'fido]

Red Dawn - Clip 06 - WOLVERINES!

[Slim]

Red Dawn - Clip 06 - WOLVERINES!

(Oddly enough) I actually prefer this version.  Filmed about 4 blocks from where I'm currently sitting.

http://youtu.be/vZfIndXiEFw