School Senior Pictures

[shlebz]

how does everyone feel about wearing one of their CAP uniforms in one of a cadets Senior Pictures?

[Phil Hirons, Jr.]

How we feel on CAP Talk is nowhere near as important as how your squadron commander sees it.

[MIKE]

BTDT.

[Garibaldi]

Ask your CC or DCC. The worst they can do is say no.

[shlebz]

i realize i'm supposed to ask my Sqd. CC...i was just merely looking for yalls input

[Cool Mace]

i realize i'm supposed to ask my Sqd. CC...i was just merely looking for yalls input

Short answer for that. Some will say yes, some will say no, all while agreeing to ask your CC. Then RM will come in and tell us why we don't need uniforms anymore.

[NIN]

And yes, my commander knew.

[Eclipse]

If your CAP unit is somehow related to the school, OK, if not, probably not a good idea.

[arajca]

i realize i'm supposed to ask my Sqd. CC...i was just merely looking for yalls input

Short answer for that. Some will say yes, some will say no, all while agreeing to ask your CC. Then RM will come in and tell us why we don't need uniforms anymore.

Forgot "ask your school's prinicpal/dean/etc as well."

[Eclipse]

And yes, my commander knew.

Congrats on your recent success with Homeland!

[Cool Mace]

i realize i'm supposed to ask my Sqd. CC...i was just merely looking for yalls input

Short answer for that. Some will say yes, some will say no, all while agreeing to ask your CC. Then RM will come in and tell us why we don't need uniforms anymore.

Forgot "ask your school's prinicpal/dean/etc as well."

Good catch.

[NIN]

Congrats on your recent success with Homeland!

Thanks.  And the coffee that just shot out my nose was a great addition to my desk.
(for the record, I am not Damien Lewis.  He is much more British than I am. So when he got his Emmy, I kept going "Dick Winters isn't BRITISH!" at the TV)

[Майор Хаткевич]

Congrats on your recent success with Homeland!

Thanks.  And the coffee that just shot out my nose was a great addition to my desk.
(for the record, I am not Damien Lewis.  He is much more British than I am. So when he got his Emmy, I kept going "Dick Winters isn't BRITISH!" at the TV)

He's a Brit? Wha? No way...

[NIN]

He's a Brit? Wha? No way...

Seriously. It screwed me up, expecting to hear his "Dick Winters" voice, and instead get this somewhat posh Notting Hill accent...

[Майор Хаткевич]

He's a Brit? Wha? No way...

Seriously. It screwed me up, expecting to hear his "Dick Winters" voice, and instead get this somewhat posh Notting Hill accent...

BoB, Life, Homeland...got me fooled.

[Devil Doc]

And yes, my commander knew.

One sexy man right there!! 

[Майор Хаткевич]

Hm...I detect only 5 C/Enlisted Ribbons. Shouldn't there be 6? Also no Encampment ribbon... :angel:

[NIN]

Hm...I detect only 5 C/Enlisted Ribbons. Shouldn't there be 6? Also no Encampment ribbon... :angel:

Do I get to smack you now?

Curry, Arnold, Wright Bros, Rickenbacker, Lindbergh, Dolittle, Goddard.  That was it back then.  Phase I & II FTW.

There is a Mitchell in there someplace, too.

[Майор Хаткевич]

Hm...I detect only 5 C/Enlisted Ribbons. Shouldn't there be 6? Also no Encampment ribbon... :angel:

Do I get to smack you now?

Curry, Arnold, Wright Bros, Rickenbacker, Lindbergh, Dolittle, Goddard.  That was it back then.  Phase I & II FTW.

There is a Mitchell in there someplace, too.

Ah....the Doolittle looked like the Mitchell, though the Goddard did look like it's after the Mitchell.

Either way, unless the requirements were different, no Encampment and no Mitchell.

[Eclipse]

I see 1 pip - I say an excited new C/Officer who hasn't updated his rack yet.

[NIN]

Its not terribly clear in that photo, but thats a gold pip. I was a C/WO, my Mitchell hadn't been presented yet, and of course there was no such thing as an encampment ribbon back then.

[Майор Хаткевич]

Those were my questions. Thanks!



P.S. Didn't even see the UC.

[NIN]

Those were my questions. Thanks!

Until I refreshed my memory (which I have to do more frequently these days), I couldn't remember if I was C/2Lt or C/WO, and I completely forgot I wasn't wearing the Mitchell.

Remember, too, that WB was not a milestone, Feik did not exist, and C/MSgt (Doolittle) was the last enlisted grade back then.  No Armstrong, etc.

[Майор Хаткевич]

Those were my questions. Thanks!

Until I refreshed my memory (which I have to do more frequently these days), I couldn't remember if I was C/2Lt or C/WO, and I completely forgot I wasn't wearing the Mitchell.

Remember, too, that WB was not a milestone, Feik did not exist, and C/MSgt (Doolittle) was the last enlisted grade back then.  No Armstrong, etc.

I came in right at the switch, and due to less than perfect SM support, never earned the Feik or took the WBA.

[754837]

I think it is a fine idea to have your senior photo taken in your uniform!

[Walkman]

Forgot "ask your school's prinicpal/dean/etc as well."

I completely agree that checking with the CC is the right thing, but the school? Since when does a school have any say in a student's senior pictures? Yes, they may not publish them if they have inappropriate content, but the student's senior photos are portraits taken by private companies, paid for by the student and without any involvement from the school. Sorry, that just seems out there to me...

[arajca]

Forgot "ask your school's prinicpal/dean/etc as well."

I completely agree that checking with the CC is the right thing, but the school? Since when does a school have any say in a student's senior pictures? Yes, they may not publish them if they have inappropriate content, but the student's senior photos are portraits taken by private companies, paid for by the student and without any involvement from the school. Sorry, that just seems out there to me...

In my experience, senior pictures are a school activity, even if they are taken by a private/contract photographer.

[Walkman]

In my experience, senior pictures are a school activity, even if they are taken by a private/contract photographer.

I've had a different experience, but now that I think about it, it wouldn't surprise me in this day & age for schools in some areas to be more "involved" than others. I guess it depends on the district...

Personally, if I were a CC, I'd have no problem at all giving a cadet permission to do their senior pictures in uniform.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I'd have no problem with it.

I got married in my service dress.

[Devil Doc]

I'd have no problem with it.

I got married in my service dress.

Thats an dedicated CAP Member right there!!

[jeders]

Forgot "ask your school's prinicpal/dean/etc as well."

I completely agree that checking with the CC is the right thing, but the school? Since when does a school have any say in a student's senior pictures? Yes, they may not publish them if they have inappropriate content, but the student's senior photos are portraits taken by private companies, paid for by the student and without any involvement from the school. Sorry, that just seems out there to me...

At my high school, your senior picture was done in a false tux for guys or a false dress for girls. No individuality, no choice. Your senior portrait, on the other hand, was done on your own time with whatever photographer you wanted, with no direct affiliation with the school, so that mom and dad can have a nice picture of you to use as blackmail when you grow up.

[Eclipse]

^ Considering the way kids dress and mess up their faces annd hair, this is probably the best way to go about it.

[Flying Pig]

Its not terribly clear in that photo, but thats a gold pip. I was a C/WO, my Mitchell hadn't been presented yet, and of course there was no such thing as an encampment ribbon back then.

No encampment ribbon?  Then why did you even bother going?   

[NIN]

Cuz thats what you did BITD. You went to encampment for the experience, not the ribbon.

I know, right? Get up off the floor. Its not dignified.

[Critical AOA]

I say let the kids wear their uniforms if they want to.  I see no harm.

Personally, I have no recollection of what I wore for my senior pictures.  I did not buy them and I did not buy a yearbook.  I graduated 36 years ago and went to one reunion (10 year).  At that event, it occurred to me how many people were stuck in the past and how they were letting it define their lives so many years later.  It was just high school, move on.  So whatever one wears for the pictures, it will not be important years down the road. 

[Flying Pig]

I remember when 6 stripes was all you got, being the 1st Sgt with my little diamond and chrome whistle.  Then pinning on C/ Warrant Officer -or- Cadet/ Flight Officer depending on how old school you Sq was and suddenly being treated like an illiterate moron!

As far as the initial question, I say wear them. That would look good, respectful. As a parent if Im paying for my kid to be in CAP hes IS wearing his blues for senior pictures. Yeah Yeah I know.... total disregard for regs! OH NO!

My 10 yr reunion had guys wearing their lettermans jackets, 75lbs over weight, bald telling loud annoying stories about some pass they caught in a game nobody remembers.  My 20yr is in 8 months.  Once in a while when I go back to visit my parents I run into a guy I know who still wears his lettermans jacket almost 20yrs later. 

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

My 10 yr reunion had guys wearing their lettermans jackets, 75lbs over weight, bald telling loud annoying stories about some pass they caught in a game nobody remembers.  My 20yr is in 8 months.  Once in a while when I go back to visit my parents I run into a guy I know who still wears his lettermans jacket almost 20yrs later. 

[Cool Mace]

Never mess with Al Bundy.

[Critical AOA]

My 10 yr reunion had guys wearing their lettermans jackets, 75lbs over weight, bald telling loud annoying stories about some pass they caught in a game nobody remembers.  My 20yr is in 8 months.  Once in a while when I go back to visit my parents I run into a guy I know who still wears his lettermans jacket almost 20yrs later.

I know the type.  Saw them at the reunion and see them when I go home to visit family.  Actually, I see them everywhere but the ones who I went to school with crack me up the most.

By the time I went to my 10 year HS reunion, I had spent 4 years in college, 3 years in the Army, went to Korea, had a couple of civilian jobs, gotten married and lived in three other states besides the one I grew up in.   High school just seems so distant by then and incredibly more so now.   

I still maintain a couple of friendships from HS but we always talk about the present or recent history.  I cannot recall the last time I had a conversation regarding ancient history.

[Майор Хаткевич]

I graduated after my Junior year, but the yearbook has me in my Blues.

Of course I only remember this because I recently LOOKED at the year book. Only 5 years ago, and certainly means a lot less to me know than it did then.

[spacecommand]

Every school handles it differently, so it depends on the school.

Way back when (ok not that long ago), all the males wore a fake tuxedo (tuxedo top) and the females wore a dress and that was the picture that appeared in the yearbook, everyone with a tuxedo or dress.  Then optionally we could take a second photo with "real" clothes, so some students wore their Letterman, some wore their regular school stuff, others didn't take this photo at all (because it cost more and was optional), this second photograph was available for sale to the student but was not published in the yearbook.

As a senior member, I've had a CAP portrait taken before as well.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

According to MapQuest, I live 259.53 miles from the city where I grew up and went to high school.  I haven't been back there in almost a decade and have no plans to ever return.

High school was like walking through fire for me.  I was useless, unnecessary and a waste of space.  This video captures it perfectly.

Subdivisions - Rush (Official Video)

I eventually got slung out...but I got a GED and subsequently a degree in Computer Information Systems with a 3.735 GPA.

I wish I would have known about the CAP Cadets back then.  I would have eaten it up, especially since I had fantasies of going to the AF Academy, which of course didn't happen.

Boy Scouts in my area were a joke (even though I made it to Life Scout) and as full of bullies as school (of course, this was the late '70s/early '80s).  CAP would have given me something much, much more tangible to focus on.  That is a big reason why I am in CAP today...to do a bit to help young people have what I didn't have.

I would have been proud to have my yearbook picture taken in CAP blues, and that's saying something considering I absolutely loathe having my picture taken!

[Stonewall]

Same experience DV...

In HS I was barely known as I hung out with my CAP crowd outside of school since we were split up among several different schools.  By no means was I a cool kid and often got picked on for being the "GI Joe" type.

Fast foward to the 10 year reunion (where my hottie wife and I met back up) where I had served 4 years in the Army, deployed to Bosnia, had 4 years of college under my belt, and was working a secret squirrel type gig for the US Government.

By the 20 year reunion I had gone back into the military (Air Guard), finished my tour with the secret squirrel gig and gone on to be an international gun toter protecting 2 different presidential appointees in more than 50 countries and now (and at the time of the 20 year reunion) am the Director of Security at a high end resort.

Meanwhile, at both reunions, our "best and brightest, and badass" kids back from "the day" (a Wednesday, BTW), were divorced, frumpy, out of shape, jobless, had yet to step foot out of the city let alone the country, and were hanging out with the same old friends from HS.

[RogueLeader]

Is he throwing a football, or grenade?

[Phil Hirons, Jr.]

I remember when 6 stripes was all you got, being the 1st Sgt with my little diamond and chrome whistle.  Then pinning on C/ Warrant Officer -or- Cadet/ Flight Officer depending on how old school you Sq was and suddenly being treated like an illiterate moron!

As far as the initial question, I say wear them. That would look good, respectful. As a parent if Im paying for my kid to be in CAP hes IS wearing his blues for senior pictures. Yeah Yeah I know.... total disregard for regs! OH NO!

My 10 yr reunion had guys wearing their lettermans jackets, 75lbs over weight, bald telling loud annoying stories about some pass they caught in a game nobody remembers.  My 20yr is in 8 months.  Once in a while when I go back to visit my parents I run into a guy I know who still wears his lettermans jacket almost 20yrs later.

I did the 6 stripes to 1 gold dot (c/WO) change. The pictogram ribbons bring back some memories.

I did the HS reunion thing a few times. Remember a HS reunion is only a bunch of people associated by zip code and year of birth.

[Devil Doc]

I was in NJROTC for 2 years, and AJROTC for 2 years, so I took lots of School Photos in Uniform
I had an stack on my Uniform and medals galor, I would mount the medals so when I walk they would clank against each other. I guess JROTC was my CAP. "To Motivate Young People to Be Better Citizens"

[a2capt]

High school was like walking through fire for me.  I was useless, unnecessary and a waste of space.  ... I eventually got slung out...but I got a GED and subsequently a degree in Computer Information Systems with a 3.735 GPA.

I wish I would have known about the CAP Cadets back then. I would have eaten it up, especially since I had fantasies of going to the AF Academy, which of course didn't happen.

Boy Scouts in my area were a joke (even though I made it to Life Scout) and as full of bullies as school (of course, this was the late '70s/early '80s).  CAP would have given me something much, much more tangible to focus on.  That is a big reason why I am in CAP today...to do a bit to help young people have what I didn't have.

I would have been proud to have my yearbook picture taken in CAP blues, and that's saying something considering I absolutely loathe having my picture taken!

Heh.. ya know, minor detail differences aside, substitute AFA for Shuttle Pilot, whch the AFA was one such avenue to get to it..  and I think you described the Mid-80's just perfect for me.  Except I didn't get a degree because at the time, the IT world we know of now was evolving from the Big Iron dominated left overs with roots in the 1960's. 

..and the unit I'm in now was right there where it is now, all the time. So. Wish. I. Knew. Even had to pass by it on a bus to go to the Boy Scouts meeting on base, that sucked. On Tuesday nights, no less.

As for my 10 year, its the only one I ever got closest to. Since I didn't walk with the class, I didn't feel right going, and the organizers didn't invite me anyway. From what a friend told me, who was there .. yeah. the jocks and popular people, no so anymore ;-)  As for my comment about getting closest to it, I was 1000 AGL overhead, circling and yelling out the window of a Citabria. I wanted to fly by and toss confetti .. but the FAA wouldn't like it

He said he saw me, maybe heard me in quips. I was known for having an ultra loud yell.
Still do.. As for would have I had done my Senior photo in Blues? You bet. One guy had just gotten Eagle Scout and that was his  photo. I think CAP Blues look so much better than that.

[Майор Хаткевич]

I'm actually excited for 2017/2018 just to see if they will send me an invite to the '07 reunion (when I graduated) or the '08 reunion (when I was supposed to graduate), or neither.

Should be fun.

[Garibaldi]

I'm actually excited for 2017/2018 just to see if they will send me an invite to the '07 reunion (when I graduated) or the '08 reunion (when I was supposed to graduate), or neither.

Should be fun.

Just in time for the AF and CAP to deny us ABUs again!

[Devil Doc]

In 2015,I will not be going to my 10 year reunion. Screw Um. They didnt care about me then so why now? Is it because I did something with myself? Im not living my high school years over and over? lol. I had an Horrible high school experience 

[RogueLeader]

There is maybe only a couple people from my high school reunion that I would like to see.  Other than that. .  .

[Devil Doc]

Lets start an CT Reunion?

[a2capt]

That would imply that we'd have been "unioned" in the first place ... many have not ever been

Photos in Blues wouldn't be out of the norm then, though. ...