New CAP Driver's License application process in eServices

[ßτε]

So the CAPDL is a four year thing? I didn't think anything in CAP lasted over three years without renewal.

Everything I can find says that your CAP ID is concurrent with your state driver's license, and that's the way its always worked in my wing.
No idea if that is any different in a state like Arizona where a license is good until your 65th birthday.

The CAPDL is valid for no more than 5 years. It needs to be renewed every 5 years or when the state DL is renewed, whichever is sooner.

[Eclipse]

So the CAPDL is a four year thing? I didn't think anything in CAP lasted over three years without renewal.

Everything I can find says that your CAP ID is concurrent with your state driver's license, and that's the way its always worked in my wing.
No idea if that is any different in a state like Arizona where a license is good until your 65th birthday.

The CAPDL is valid for no more than 5 years. It needs to be renewed every 5 years or when the state DL is renewed, whichever is sooner.

Is that in 77-1?

[jeders]

So the CAPDL is a four year thing? I didn't think anything in CAP lasted over three years without renewal.

Everything I can find says that your CAP ID is concurrent with your state driver's license, and that's the way its always worked in my wing.
No idea if that is any different in a state like Arizona where a license is good until your 65th birthday.

The CAPDL is valid for no more than 5 years. It needs to be renewed every 5 years or when the state DL is renewed, whichever is sooner.

Is that in 77-1?

Yes. Paragraph 1-5 h if you can't find it.

[Eclipse]

Yes. Paragraph 1-5 h if you can't find it.

Danke - well, there you go...

[davidsinn]

So the CAPDL is a four year thing? I didn't think anything in CAP lasted over three years without renewal.

Everything I can find says that your CAP ID is concurrent with your state driver's license, and that's the way its always worked in my wing.
No idea if that is any different in a state like Arizona where a license is good until your 65th birthday.

The CAPDL is valid for no more than 5 years. It needs to be renewed every 5 years or when the state DL is renewed, whichever is sooner.

Well that sucks. My DL is good for six years. Have to renew the CAP DL and then do it again after a year when my DL expires.

[SARDOC]

Well that sucks. My DL is good for six years. Have to renew the CAP DL and then do it again after a year when my DL expires.

I was thinking the same thing...My OL is good for 7 years...just enough to make it inconvenient.

[Lord of the North]

The five year expiration of CAP DL is nothing new.  The oldest CAPR 77-1 I have is the 1 SEPTEMBER 2003 issue and the requirement is there and it is not an update.  Strange that all of the people who know so much about other areas of CAP don't seem to know a long standing requirement.

[Eclipse]

If your state has a less than 5 year DL renewal, it never comes up.

[davidsinn]

The five year expiration of CAP DL is nothing new.  The oldest CAPR 77-1 I have is the 1 SEPTEMBER 2003 issue and the requirement is there and it is not an update.  Strange that all of the people who know so much about other areas of CAP don't seem to know a long standing requirement.

I've only had to renew the CAP DL once so far and the six year cycle for my state DL is a fluke as they convert to a new method of renewals.

[Private Investigator]

There's plenty of people on the road who can legally drive that we don't want anywhere near a COV.

+1

When I was a Squadron Commander I turned people down for their CAP drivers license. Interesting thing I never got a grivance or a call from higher headquarters about it either.   

[a2capt]

Well that sucks. My DL is good for six years. Have to renew the CAP DL and then do it again after a year when my DL expires.

Well, then the next time, they'll match. After that, it'll be the next four cycles for them to match again. By then you can get the 50 year membership.

[Eclipse]

I received an approval email today for a CAPDL renewal request, so that's a good sign on the implementation of the new module.

That's the first time I've ever received an email out of Operations Qualifications.

[Spaceman3750]

I received an approval email today for a CAPDL renewal request, so that's a good sign on the implementation of the new module.

That's the first time I've ever received an email out of Operations Qualifications.

*hides the keys*

[arajca]

I received an approval email today for a CAPDL renewal request, so that's a good sign on the implementation of the new module.

That's the first time I've ever received an email out of Operations Qualifications.

How is it annotated on yuor 101 card? I'm still waiting for my wing level approval.

[Eclipse]

Haven't seen my personal one go through yet, wing has to pull the abstract for me.

This was for someone else's.  I've got some temp rights in LG or a project I'm helping with.

[vento]

I received an approval email today for a CAPDL renewal request, so that's a good sign on the implementation of the new module.

That's the first time I've ever received an email out of Operations Qualifications.

Hmm, I haven't received anything yet, not even the confirmation about receiving my application.

I've followed the instructions, but just to make sure, we are not supposed to type anything into "Member driving record verified compliant with CAPR...", correct?

[Eclipse]

When I sent my personal one up, I didn't receive anything, either.

Correct - that is for the approver to check once they have reviewed your record.

[vento]

Thanks Eclipse for sharing the info.

[mikebank]

You can go back and look at the module, and it will show you who has approved it and sent it on up...

[greatdane1945]

Answers from NHQ concerning new DL procedure:

Your announcement brings a few questions to mind...

CAPR 77-1 limits the time period that a CAP DL can be issued for to 5 years. Is the new program limiting everyone to 5 years max or will the CAP DL expire at the same time the state DL expires? The CAP DL will now expire at the same time the state DL expires. If so, when will CAPR 77-1 be up-graded to permit 5+ year CAP DL's?

"There will be an admin change to the CAPR 77-1 to reflect this change soon."

Our wing supplement states that one must be 21+ to obtain a CAP DL (from our wing). I would guess the 'approver' can deny approval to those within our wing who are under 21.

"That's correct".

Will the current CAPF 75 be phased out or just completely dropped?

"Eventually the CAPF 75 will be phased out and all will be required to carry the CAPF101. When a member's grandfathered CAP driver's license expires and/or state driver's license expires, they must use the online system to obtain a new CAP driver's license."


Will wings have the option of continuing to issue 75's?

"No, when a member's grandfathered CAP driver's license expires and/or state driver's license expires, they must use the online system to obtain a new CAP driver's license. "


Will authorized personnel be able to access a 'listing' of DL's issued, expiration dates, etc.

"Yes"

Hope this clears up some of questions raised by others.