The other day I was cleaning at the Squadron, searching for photo albums, and came across a box with over 100 film slides. Most were of our Squadron, but 49 of them were numbered and marked CAP Story. Looks like some kind of recruiting slideshow, I'l assuming there was a script or some kind of guide to go along with them? Take a look, and if anyone has seen these before and has any info, please post.
https://youtu.be/2UAUspPXfqw
Actually they were used for Level I training. In the 60s and 70s.
I love pictures from CAP's good old days.
Quote from: Stonewall on December 09, 2015, 01:09:42 PM
I love pictures from CAP's good old days.
Same here. I have a bunch that I've collected. This is a cool slide show. I'm going with an early-mid 1980's time frame. I have an AE book that has a similar design on the cover to some of the slides...
Ah, those were the days.
Garibaldi and I know at least one of those guys, Carter Jones from GAWG, on a handheld at a SAREX from back when he and I were sniveling cadets in the early 1980s. You'll find that most of those pics are taken from an old CAP Annual Report to Congress. See: http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/1984__LoRes_2094978BEC5C5.pdf (http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/1984__LoRes_2094978BEC5C5.pdf). If you go back far enough, you can get photos of all kinds of things (well, excepting for U boat kill evidence and/or any actual attacks by CAP).
You've done a really nice job with the youtube presentation - you got "skilz"!
V/R
Spam
Quote from: Spam on December 09, 2015, 02:30:16 PM
Ah, those were the days.
Garibaldi and I know at least one of those guys, Carter Jones from GAWG, on a handheld at a SAREX from back when he and I were sniveling cadets in the early 1980s. You'll find that most of those pics are taken from an old CAP Annual Report to Congress. See: http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/1984__LoRes_2094978BEC5C5.pdf (http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/1984__LoRes_2094978BEC5C5.pdf). If you go back far enough, you can get photos of all kinds of things (well, excepting for U boat kill evidence and/or any actual attacks by CAP).
You've done a really nice job with the youtube presentation - you got "skilz"!
V/R
Spam
1984...woohoo! I am smart...SMRT...
What gave it away there, Grand Admiral Thrawn? The pickle suits? (somewhere in a box, I have my old one which would now fit me like a hanky on Andre the Giant).
Cheers, guys,
Spam
Boy, those blue epaulets and metal insignia sure look good on the blues, don't they? Any chance of us ever getting them back? :angel:
Quote from: Spam on December 09, 2015, 03:41:42 PM
What gave it away there, Grand Admiral Thrawn? The pickle suits? (somewhere in a box, I have my old one which would now fit me like a hanky on Andre the Giant).
Cheers, guys,
Spam
Sum of the parts. Hair styles, nonuniform clothing, the style of the glasses, the public television style graphics...and the pickle suits :)
Can't be quite that old...one of those pictures with the PC are maybe mid-late 80s.
Quote from: Nuke52 on December 09, 2015, 06:03:10 PM
Boy, those blue epaulets and metal insignia sure look good on the blues, don't they? Any chance of us ever getting them back? :angel:
When I was still in CAP (first term, 1993-1999), my then-Sqn CC, who later became Wing CC and Region PD Officer, and is probably now retired (if he's still living), told the squadron that he brought up the subject while having coffee with then-National CC Brig Gen Richard Anderson (they were good friends).
He said that General Anderson's reply was:
"You will never get them back."
Dont need blue slides or metal grade insignia,the grey works for us and now is part of our heritage.
In the slides, I saw a group of cadet officers with their metal grade insignia pinned on the collars of their fatigues (grade on one side CAP on the other) instead of the embroidered insignia. Anyone know if that was optional back then or was that just something that some people did?
Quote from: wings15 on December 29, 2015, 08:46:03 PM
In the slides, I saw a group of cadet officers with their metal grade insignia pinned on the collars of their fatigues (grade on one side CAP on the other) instead of the embroidered insignia. Anyone know if that was optional back then or was that just something that some people did?
At that time (prior to the mid 90's I believe), pin on cadet officer rank was standard. When or why they changed it, I don't know; maybe they were afraid some Spaatz Cadet would accidentally slit his own throat.
I've never been a member of, nor have I even visited, but several years ago I came across Sandy Springs Cadet Squadron (GA-045) through someone here on CAPTalk.
I feel like they've always had a great website filled with rich history and great content.
In the last they had a video of a local news channel piece that was done on the unit in eighties or early nineties but I can't find it anymore.
But they do have this fine tidbit that covers the units history...
http://www.ga045.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Sandy-Springs-Cadet-Squadron-History-Slideshow-18-DEC-13-FINAL.pdf (http://www.ga045.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Sandy-Springs-Cadet-Squadron-History-Slideshow-18-DEC-13-FINAL.pdf)
1984 National Cadet Competition slide: Bronx Group Drill Team
Quote from: Stonewall on December 30, 2015, 01:59:47 AM
I've never been a member of, nor have I even visited, but several years ago I came across Sandy Springs Cadet Squadron (GA-045) through someone here on CAPTalk.
I feel like they've always had a great website filled with rich history and great content.
In the last they had a video of a local news channel piece that was done on the unit in eighties or early nineties but I can't find it anymore.
But they do have this fine tidbit that covers the units history...
http://www.ga045.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Sandy-Springs-Cadet-Squadron-History-Slideshow-18-DEC-13-FINAL.pdf (http://www.ga045.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Sandy-Springs-Cadet-Squadron-History-Slideshow-18-DEC-13-FINAL.pdf)
Stonewall,
thanks for the kind words and nice site review - SSCS was my original unit as a cadet, and I'm currently the commander again, with Garibaldi from CT joining us as well. We've been spending a bunch of time on a revamp of our website to the new NHQ standard format, adding new Basic Cadet training slides with Wingman content, and have been slowly re-posting the historical documents. Please check it all out, at your leisure.
I should give Historian credit to LTC Berry, our long serving Balsam Award winning historian, who authored a number of our annual unit history summaries, including the one you referenced, and the news spot from 07. (He is one of our seven or so GTLs, so he's usually on the spot when we're deployed, taking pics for the summaries).
I'll see if we can get that news spot added to the historical documents (by Grabthars Hammer... the HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS). The cadet commander GTL who was the subject has gone on to win the USCG Silver Lifesaving Medal as an AST3 rescue swimmer, and just transferred to USAF, completing PJ school this year.
V/R
Spam
http://www.ga045.org/ (http://www.ga045.org/)
http://capnhq.custhelp.com/ci/fattach/get/842/0/filename/Silver+Lifesaving+Medalist+Former+Georgia+cadet+recognized+by+Coast+Guard+for+Great+Lakes+heroic.pdf (http://capnhq.custhelp.com/ci/fattach/get/842/0/filename/Silver+Lifesaving+Medalist+Former+Georgia+cadet+recognized+by+Coast+Guard+for+Great+Lakes+heroic.pdf)
That was definitely in the 1983-1984 time-frame since it has the new style corporate seal. I remember that slide deck, and may still have one around somewhere. Good times.
QuoteI should give Historian credit to LTC Berry
If that's Brian Berry, I met up with him while a cadet in Colorado. Small world. ;)
That's him! We still follow his lead - SSCS has three former cadets now at USAFA. I've let him know to check this thread...
V/R
Spam
Quote from: LTC Don on December 30, 2015, 12:25:57 PM
That was definitely in the 1983-1984 time-frame since it has the new style corporate seal. I remember that slide deck, and may still have one around somewhere. Good times.
QuoteI should give Historian credit to LTC Berry
If that's Brian Berry, I met up with him while a cadet in Colorado. Small world. ;)
I believe he transferred to the Colorado Springs unit while at the AFA, early 80s. His whole family was in CAP in the mid 60s to the late 80s.
Gents, our page has been updated as promised to re-post the Historical Documentation (local news feature video), at: http://www.ga045.org/history/ (http://www.ga045.org/history/)
It has some first hand info on the Scott Crossfield mission.
V/R
Spam
SSCS is a very impressive squadron with an inspiring history!
As I was FLWG Encampment Commander in 1968, we had several; Sandy Springs cadets attend. Without a doubt they were among the outstanding "basic" cadets attending. Two were among the top three for "Basic Cadet of the Encampment". I no olonger have the names since all records were sent to the Wing Historian and since have been lost.
Teammates,
as the current SSCS/CC, I'm only one of many "custodians" of our ongoing history, as is LTC Berry and as are so many of all of you. Thanks so much for your warm comments on my home unit.
I don't want to hijack this thread, but rather to bring it back to the theme of the original poster and that of the Hysterical History area. That slide show was very interesting and set me to thinking. One of the underlying reasons that some units like GA045 seem to have been able to maintain a fairly consistent training standard over the decades seems (to me) to be directly tied to the preservation of a sense of tradition and history and belonging. This can have its dark side (forgive me, Thrawn, for the SW reference) in that we need to avoid becoming hide bound by tradition that wont adapt to a changing world, but, an appreciation of heritage and mission continuity has really played a strong part in maintaining a consistent, practiced "battle rhythm" in the stronger units I've served in and commanded. The units that retain their history correlate with those units that have a higher esprit de corps, and perhaps a higher retention rate, although I cant substantiate that. I do sense a correlation between units that preserve and revere their local history and the willingness of "CAP Veterans" - former cadets, now adult professionals, perhaps now pilots, engineers, maintainers, or a broad variety of skills - to return to service with CAP to pay it forward. Call it Maslow's pyramid of needs if you like - needing to belong to an organization that is greater than yourself.
So, I suppose I'm generating advocacy for the Historian as a mission enabler.
Are there local templates or local historian how to guides to support capturing that local experience to inspire future members? (Speaking as a non historian type).
V/R
Spam
Spam, you forgot to mention the history of our squadron patch, and our yearly viewing of the Great Pumpkin in October to celebrate Snoopy's never give up spirit. I like when the newer cadets realize there's a lot of history behind our Snoopy patch (officially sanctioned by Charles Shultz himself!) instead of viewing it as just something else they need to sew on their uniform.
We not return you to your regularly scheduled thread, already in progress.
Quote from: Garibaldi on January 04, 2016, 02:49:01 PM
Spam, you forgot to mention the history of our squadron patch, and our yearly viewing of the Great Pumpkin in October to celebrate Snoopy's never give up spirit. I like when the newer cadets realize there's a lot of history behind our Snoopy patch (officially sanctioned by Charles Shultz himself!) instead of viewing it as just something else they need to sew on their uniform.
We not return you to your regularly scheduled thread, already in progress.
We sure could use a 'Flyin' 45th' patch here at the Vets' Hall bar here on Kwajalein - a few of my unit patches already grace the walls!
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on January 04, 2016, 07:44:37 PM
Quote from: Garibaldi on January 04, 2016, 02:49:01 PM
Spam, you forgot to mention the history of our squadron patch, and our yearly viewing of the Great Pumpkin in October to celebrate Snoopy's never give up spirit. I like when the newer cadets realize there's a lot of history behind our Snoopy patch (officially sanctioned by Charles Shultz himself!) instead of viewing it as just something else they need to sew on their uniform.
We not return you to your regularly scheduled thread, already in progress.
We sure could use a 'Flyin' 45th' patch here at the Vets' Hall bar here on Kwajalein - a few of my unit patches already grace the walls!
PM Spam. It's his final decision, but I'm all for it. I already got rid of my spare Dekalb patch (purchased when I rejoined briefly in 2012), and I ain't parting with the 2 vintage ones I still have.
Nice work on the slide show. Haven't seen those O.D. fatigues for quite a while. Also, I assume that you added the music track, since "Gettysburg" was not released until 1993 or so.
-John