Armed CAP Members?

Started by wwiijunky7, March 25, 2012, 11:01:17 PM

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wwiijunky7

Now I realize there has been 1 thread about this already but it was awhile back...anyways how many people out there believe ONLY Senior members should be aloud to carry firearms (Pistol) as long as they pass a pre-qual set up by the wing or national level, and there state allows it? It also has to be open carry not closed! Plus only during Emergency Services operations.  Any ways I believe they should, anybody else?

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Quote from: wwiijunky7 on March 25, 2012, 11:01:17 PM
Now I realize there has been 1 thread about this already but it was awhile back...anyways how many people out there believe ONLY Senior members should be aloud to carry firearms (Pistol) as long as they pass a pre-qual set up by the wing or national level, and there state allows it? It also has to be open carry not closed! Plus only during Emergency Services operations.  Any ways I believe they should, anybody else?
No.

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Quote from: jeders on March 25, 2012, 11:06:38 PM
Why? What problem does this solve?
problem: Not being able to shoot someone by accident.
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thatonekid

He was asking what problem would having armed SM's solve.
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Quote from: Extremepredjudice on March 25, 2012, 11:07:50 PM
Quote from: jeders on March 25, 2012, 11:06:38 PM
Why? What problem does this solve?
problem: Not being able to shoot someone by accident.
+1. We don't need weapons in CAP. We do not perform CSAR, so I doubt any army or insurgancy is going to fire on us. And if there is danger of things like bears and what not attacking us, then I doubt we should risk anyones lives and leave the mission to the people who carry arms has part of their duty IE Police.

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Quote from: Littleguy on March 25, 2012, 11:39:51 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on March 25, 2012, 11:07:50 PM
Quote from: jeders on March 25, 2012, 11:06:38 PM
Why? What problem does this solve?
problem: Not being able to shoot someone by accident.
+1. We don't need weapons in CAP. We do not perform CSAR, so I doubt any army or insurgancy is going to fire on us. And if there is danger of things like bears and what not attacking us, then I doubt we should risk anyones lives and leave the mission to the people who carry arms has part of their duty IE Police.
how dare you go look for people! *bang* *bang*  >:D
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Quote from: wwiijunky7 on March 25, 2012, 11:01:17 PM
Now I realize there has been 1 thread about this already but it was awhile back...anyways how many people out there believe ONLY Senior members should be aloud to carry firearms (Pistol) as long as they pass a pre-qual set up by the wing or national level, and there state allows it? It also has to be open carry not closed! Plus only during Emergency Services operations.  Any ways I believe they should, anybody else?
Well, our wing commander recently turned down ground teams carrying chain saws to clear the roads on their way to an emergency response, so I don't give much chance in him allowing all of the senior members to carry pistols. ;) :angel:

We don't need members carrying pistols on ANY mission.  IF it isn't safe we don't go, it is that simple.   
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Quote from: RADIOMAN015 on March 26, 2012, 12:13:40 AMWell, our wing commander recently turned down ground teams carrying chain saws to clear the roads on their way to an emergency response, so I don't give much chance in him allowing all of the senior members to carry pistols.

Not remotely even the same conversation.

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N Harmon

If CAP is going to take on more liability with an issue where the laws vary state to state, municipality to municipality, then getting members medically trained in something further than CPR/First Aid would be more beneficial.

While I personally have no problem with competent people carrying firearms, I understand CAP's rules and sort of agree with them.
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Monroe Composite Squadron

RADIOMAN015

Quote from: Eclipse on March 26, 2012, 12:17:07 AM
Quote from: RADIOMAN015 on March 26, 2012, 12:13:40 AMWell, our wing commander recently turned down ground teams carrying chain saws to clear the roads on their way to an emergency response, so I don't give much chance in him allowing all of the senior members to carry pistols.

Not remotely even the same conversation.
Hmm, what more dangerous a senior member with a chain saw or one with a loaded pistol ??? ;)
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Quote from: RADIOMAN015 on March 26, 2012, 01:03:58 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on March 26, 2012, 12:17:07 AM
Quote from: RADIOMAN015 on March 26, 2012, 12:13:40 AMWell, our wing commander recently turned down ground teams carrying chain saws to clear the roads on their way to an emergency response, so I don't give much chance in him allowing all of the senior members to carry pistols.

Not remotely even the same conversation.
Hmm, what more dangerous a senior member with a chain saw or one with a loaded pistol ??? ;)
RM
Pistol. Don't stand next to SM BagODoughnuts when he has a chainsaw.
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Quote from: RADIOMAN015 on March 26, 2012, 01:03:58 AM
Hmm, what more dangerous a senior member with a chain saw or one with a loaded pistol ??? ;)
RM

Chain saws. The hypothetical pistol would be holstered at all times unless there was a clear and present danger. The chain saw is intended to be used often.
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Chainsaws are not dangerous unless the operator is wearing a Hockey Goalie mask. ;)

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